Dragons getting bigger.
The dragon isn't quite as big as that clip makes it look. I think it ends up perched on her shoulder.
Also, this thread title still makes me smile. :)
dragons now big as dogs? I've heard that season 3 will be 1/2 of book 3?
About 2/3s, yeah:
dragons now big as dogs? I've heard that season 3 will be 1/2 of book 3?
They've said that season 3 is going to end with codename RW, which takes place about 2/3 of the way through book 3, iirc, but there are a bunch of plot lines that are suited to ending with season 3. Arya's storyline in going to get tedious as hell if she spends 2 seasons wandering around the riverlands, ditto Jon Snow north of the wall.
I'm curious about seasons 4 and 5 though; I just can't see HBO saying "Dany, Jon and Tyrion are your favorite characters? Well, see you next year, no hard feelings."
Yeah, I agree, it's just that there are so many plot lines in books 4 and 5 that it may reach the "one scene per episode for each" point, or maybe even less. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's going to take some thought on the writers' part.
I'm hoping they cram 1 or 2 books together to put pressure on Martin to finish another book. In my opinion the last 2 books were not good as the first 3 and the storyline needs a bigger push towards an ending. Hes still introducing new characters and im not sure if we are supposed to care about them or they are just "page filler". Any thoughts on new favorite characters introduced from book 4+? I cant think of any that have yet to be introduced in the tv series.
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Any thoughts on new favorite characters introduced from book 4+? I cant think of any that have yet to be introduced in the tv series.
I liked Jon Connington. I like pretty much all of the Dornish bunch, but particularly Areo Hotah (taciturn badass with an axe who just gets stuff done without fuss).
Victarian and Euron are interesting characters...I wonder if they will move the Kingsmoot up to season 4, since I think timeline wise it takes place then.
Barristan Selmy, while not a new character, really shines in the later books. I am looking forward to them demonstrating just what a utter badass he is.
The Dornish heir, whatever's his name, the cold rider, the dark maester, and the tree guy.
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Marriage is what brings us together today...
Love it. Spoilers in there.
Most Excellent!
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My friends at HBO got me invites for the opening of the Game of Thrones exhibit. Not a huge exhibit but very fun, I got to sit and pose on a replica of the Iron Throne. I claimed the Seven Kingdoms for Cheliax.
I got to very briefly meet Sophie Turner and Natalie Dormer.
I had a minor face palm moment, I was speaking to Natalie Dormer thinking she was PR for HBO or some other exec flying in from London for about two minutes before I realized who she was.
Her - 'Hi I'm Nat.'
Me - 'Hi I'm Noel'
small talk for two minutes
Me - 'So do you work for HBO out of London'
Her - (laughing) 'In a matter of speaking ....'
(she explains who she is)
Me - kicking my self repeatedly in the a$s mentally.
In my defense she lost a lot of weight and her handler was not by her to tell me who she was like at other events I have attended.
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I did'nt like how they did not really show how Saw got away form the undead/ white walkers. End of last season he was behind a rock.
This episode you hear some fighting with a black screen, they don't show anything. Then you see Sam running.
First time I am really disapointed in the show. It was a cop out, IMO.
"Let's end last season with a character in danger, but not show how he gets out of it in the start of New season. We'll just show the character out of danger." Great way to respect the viewer. I'be lost a lot of respect for this show tonight.
So what are they going to do for next episode? Pull a DALLAS and have Ned Stark in the shower and explain how last 2 seasons were a dream?
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Well, the show has had some cop-outs before. Especially notable is the fact that of all the battles involved in these wars, we've really only seen bits and pieces outside of Stannis's attempted siege of King's Landing.
As for Sam, the White Walkers DEFINITELY saw him last season...maybe they want him to escape to spread fear?
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Well, the show has had some cop-outs before. Especially notable is the fact that of all the battles involved in these wars, we've really only seen bits and pieces outside of Stannis's attempted siege of King's Landing.
As for Sam, the White Walkers DEFINITELY saw him last season...maybe they want him to escape to spread fear?
Yes but with the battles, they never really showed any big battle execpt Blackwater Bay. Since they did not show anything they don't have to show the resulotion of them.
With this, they showed Sam and how he got into that situation, they should have shown how how Saw got out of it.
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Well, the show has had some cop-outs before. Especially notable is the fact that of all the battles involved in these wars, we've really only seen bits and pieces outside of Stannis's attempted siege of King's Landing.
As for Sam, the White Walkers DEFINITELY saw him last season...maybe they want him to escape to spread fear?
They couldn't reasonably be expected to show so many big battles. I am actualy happy they chose to skip the battles entirely (by the way, one of those battles from the first season was skipped in the book, as well) and didn't try to do a massive battle scene with low badget that would have looked terrible.
Anyway, seeing shots from the future of this season, there are going to be some fine looking armies. Looks nearly as good as Lord of the Rings, really. And the producers, D&D, promised a battle next season that will be bigger than "blackwater", probably meaning
Didn't have a chance to watch the first episode yet. Will only get around to it in the weekend. were there any mammoth-riding giants in it? are we likely to see them later in the season? I'm fearing we wouldn't because they surely would have included something like that in at least some of the trailers...
Well, that answers that. I guess I can finally stop talking about Jaime getting spoilered and say it: they f**king cut his hand off, just like that.
Now I'm sad about Wilco Johnson all over again, though; I'm going to miss Ilyn Payne a lot.
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But look on the bright side, it's like 90% of his dickishness was in that one hand.
well when you think about it, most of his confidence/bravado stems from being a badass swordsman, with at least TV version also getting a portion from his membership in a particularly powerful family.
And this episode took away the former and proved definitely that the latter won't always be there to bail him out.
Without the intro, they've got even more time to fill. Remember, no commercials on HBO, so the show runs longer, meaning they have to pack more into it to full the full hour timeslot, instead of the roughly 42 minute timeslot.
It's hard to keep a TV show paced properly for that long, and I think the intro helps them more than it hurts, even if it is just a couple of minutes.
The more I get sucked into this show, the more I grow to resent that long-ass introduction with the pop up towers and gearwork city models. It was amazingly cool the first few times, but now it just feels like precious minutes of airtime being spent on stuff that isn't the show! :)
Don't worry about it, Set. Last night I was thinking of book 3's mortality rate, and it occurred to me that the opening credits will only have to cover half the names next season. :P
Dont watch it live and you can skip the intro.
The more I get sucked into this show, the more I grow to resent that long-ass introduction with the pop up towers and gearwork city models. It was amazingly cool the first few times, but now it just feels like precious minutes of airtime being spent on stuff that isn't the show! :)
It's important to keep the show's casual audience knowing where the hell everything is. It also changes every couple of episodes as people move around.
Of course, it could be a bit more exact. It's still showing the Wall rather than, say, the Fist of the First Men and Winterfell rather than wherever Theon is.
Theon? You mean
Theon? You mean ** spoiler omitted **
What's funny is, I read the first four books between seasons one and two, and was rather aghast at what an a-hole Theon was. Then I saw season two and was confused by all the characterization they were wasting on him. Theon feels conflicted between loyalty to Robb and his father? Okay, but in the book he's just a treacherous douche-bag, characterization finished, and then he disappears from the story.
Then I finally get ahold of book five and I'm all, "Gee, maybe that characterization wasn't wasted after all . . ."
For those who have read the book five:
I suppose Theon's role (or at least presence) is going to change a lot from the books. I'm curious how they are going to pull it off... a three season torture scene might be a bit much. :p
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I love the pop-up beginning! Even when it has locations featured in prior episodes.
Also, I haven't read the books beyond the first one, so this is pure speculation, but if Dani doesn't take control of the slave army and then immediately say something like "Awesome. Slave army, kill this b#++% and let's take my dragon back." I'll eat my hat. All her dialogue seems to point that way (the questions to the translator about whether the army will follow _any_ command once she buys them) and then the previews for next week (her receiving the command baton, or whatever it is, and asking "so it's done?").
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I love the pop-up beginning! Even when it has locations featured in prior episodes.
Also, I haven't read the books beyond the first one, so this is pure speculation, but if Dani doesn't take control of the slave army and then immediately say something like "Awesome. Slave army, kill this b@!&$ and let's take my dragon back." I'll eat my hat. All her dialogue seems to point that way (the questions to the translator about whether the army will follow _any_ command once she buys them) and then the previews for next week (her receiving the command baton, or whatever it is, and asking "so it's done?").
You're quite close.
Theon? You mean ** spoiler omitted **What's funny is, I read the first four books between seasons one and two, and was rather aghast at what an a-hole Theon was. Then I saw season two and was confused by all the characterization they were wasting on him. Theon feels conflicted between loyalty to Robb and his father? Okay, but in the book he's just a treacherous douche-bag, characterization finished, and then he disappears from the story.
Then I finally get ahold of book five and I'm all, "Gee, maybe that characterization wasn't wasted after all . . ."
For those who have read the book five:
** spoiler omitted **
Yeah, they did the same thing with Cersei and her additional characterization in seasons one and two.
For anyone watching 'A Game of Thrones' on HBO, last night's final scene with the Lanisters was just ... utterly impeccable.
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Theon? You mean ** spoiler omitted **What's funny is, I read the first four books between seasons one and two, and was rather aghast at what an a-hole Theon was. Then I saw season two and was confused by all the characterization they were wasting on him. Theon feels conflicted between loyalty to Robb and his father? Okay, but in the book he's just a treacherous douche-bag, characterization finished, and then he disappears from the story.
Then I finally get ahold of book five and I'm all, "Gee, maybe that characterization wasn't wasted after all . . ."
For those who have read the book five:
** spoiler omitted **
Read book 2 again. When I first read it I was feeling exactly what you described - I was so ANGRY at Theon for betraying Rob that I actualy missed the fact that even back then, he was a very complex character, and his betrayl, while certainly misguided and with horrible results, is really more the attempt of a lost child to define himself than just a bad guy. In my second read, I was actualy nearly in his favour, even while he was doing the terrible things he did back there.
Those books are *so* good.
Theon? You mean ** spoiler omitted **What's funny is, I read the first four books between seasons one and two, and was rather aghast at what an a-hole Theon was. Then I saw season two and was confused by all the characterization they were wasting on him. Theon feels conflicted between loyalty to Robb and his father? Okay, but in the book he's just a treacherous douche-bag, characterization finished, and then he disappears from the story.
Then I finally get ahold of book five and I'm all, "Gee, maybe that characterization wasn't wasted after all . . ."
For those who have read the book five:
** spoiler omitted **
Read book 2 again. When I first read it I was feeling exactly what you described - I was so ANGRY at Theon for betraying Rob that I actualy missed the fact that even back then, he was a very complex character, and his betrayl, while certainly misguided and with horrible results, is really more the attempt of a lost child to define himself than just a bad guy. In my second read, I was actualy nearly in his favour, even while he was doing the terrible things he did back there.
Those books are *so* good.
It wasn't his betrayal of Robb, that comes later. I was saying that after dealing with Theon as a rather innocuous supporting character in the first book (and season), a page and half into his first POV section in the second, I said to myself "Wow, this guy's a f**king a**hole!"
I don't disagree with you about Theon's motives, but the TV series is front loading a bunch of stuff that makes him sympathetic, like the realization that he chose wrong and his real father died in King's Landing. You don't get that in the books until book five, after two volumes of off screen torture.