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Pathfinder RPG Starter Set. Would love a Starter set for thier RPG, something I could use to introduce the game at a lower price and teach people the basics of the game.This will happen within six months. Lisa and Erik will see to that.
Not likely. We have announced all of our products through next April, so it wouldn't be able to come out until after then. Erik and I have talked about the need for such a product, but I wouldn't expect it any earlier than Christmas 2010, and even that might optimistic if we want to really do it right, and not just rush something out the door.
-Lisa
My experience working on Dungeon (with its side treks) and Pathfinder (with its set pieces) is that writers hate hate HATE writing short adventures, and that they invariably take more work than it's almost worth to trim back down to "short" status. I'm pretty fed up with the idea of short adventures as a result—anything shorter than a 32 page module at this point is probably not something Paizo's going to be tackling anytime soon as a result.
Hey stay away from Sidetreks. Sidetrek Adventure Weekly has that corner covered. That's my drinking on weekend money you will be messing with. LOL!!!
And James is right, getting a writer to write "shorter" adventures is like pulling teeth.
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A healthy profit. Epic rules. More settings. The rest of Golarion. Forgotten Realms Redux, with Ed and Jeff Grubb running the show. Repainted plastic minis. More battlemaps.
I'm not sure what you mean by FR redux but I don't want too much FR taste in my Pathfinder. I think Goarion has it's own awesome flavour - I can see how it appeals to disillusioned FR fans but it is not 'the new FR' and I hope it never becomes so.
Sorry if I have misinterpreted your post, but every so often someone jumps up and down on a thread chanting; "Ed Greenwood, Ed Greenwood, Ed Greenwood..." over and over and it brings me down.
I had some great times in Cormyr,
Sembia was a blast,
We painted Shadowdale red,
All that's in the past.
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Hey stay away from Sidetreks. Sidetrek Adventure Weekly has that corner covered. That's my drinking on weekend money you will be messing with. LOL!!!
And they're good.
And James is right, getting a writer to write "shorter" adventures is like pulling teeth.
Yeah, while the writer's drinking some alcohol.... ;-)
A healthy profit. Epic rules. More settings. The rest of Golarion. Forgotten Realms Redux, with Ed and Jeff Grubb running the show. Repainted plastic minis. More battlemaps.I'm not sure what you mean by FR redux but I don't want too much FR taste in my Pathfinder. I think Goarion has it's own awesome flavour - I can see how it appeals to disillusioned FR fans but it is not 'the new FR' and I hope it never becomes so.
No no no, by all means. Golarion is and should stay Golarion. Erik's rant about "setting integrity" a while back finally put words on what has bugged me about so many FR books.
Erik convinced me that Paizo indeed is the company to handle settings right. (although he flinched at the end, but I choose to overlook that)What I really wanted to say with my FR remark was that I hope Paizo sends Ed work whenever they have topics appropriate for his style. I also hope they grap the FR license, should wotc at some point give up.
And perhaps consider making a brand new light-hearted, high fantasy setting to contrast Golarion.
I guess I'm still heartbroken for 4e FR, since I rarely resist taking shots at wotc. Sorry about that.
I'd even settle for a part of the web site indexing the on-line content they've already provided (so that I don't have to go crawling through months of blog posts by hand or relying on the somewhat shaky "Search" function).
This would be really nice. I'm sure it's on the radar somewhere, but way down on the list. The problem is, the volume of essentially inaccessible information is just going to keep growing...
I'd love to see Paizo put together something, maybe a yearly offering, for shorter adventures.
Possibly a collection of sidetreks. Something to approximate what Dungeon used to provide.
I'd also like to see Paizo put out Slumbering Tsar, and Nick Logue/Brendan Victorson's "The Lightning Curse" - the sequel to Dungeon's excellent "Obsidian Eye" adventure. The closing of the paper mags killed its release, and I would love to see what happens to Harbinger, Mio the Scorpion, and Anak. (With Wotc IP filed off of course.)
"I second the motion"
My experience working on Dungeon (with its side treks) and Pathfinder (with its set pieces) is that writers hate hate HATE writing short adventures, and that they invariably take more work than it's almost worth to trim back down to "short" status. I'm pretty fed up with the idea of short adventures as a result—anything shorter than a 32 page module at this point is probably not something Paizo's going to be tackling anytime soon as a result.
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My experience working on Dungeon (with its side treks) and Pathfinder (with its set pieces) is that writers hate hate HATE writing short adventures, and that they invariably take more work than it's almost worth to trim back down to "short" status. I'm pretty fed up with the idea of short adventures as a result—anything shorter than a 32 page module at this point is probably not something Paizo's going to be tackling anytime soon as a result.*cough*
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*hands Joshua a glass of water to help his throat and a Super Soak(tm) water gun to "remind" James the error of his statement....*
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I'd even settle for a part of the web site indexing the on-line content they've already provided (so that I don't have to go crawling through months of blog posts by hand or relying on the somewhat shaky "Search" function).This would be really nice. I'm sure it's on the radar somewhere, but way down on the list. The problem is, the volume of essentially inaccessible information is just going to keep growing...
Have you tried the blog tags page?
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What's a "Pathfinder Society," and why do they have "scenarios?"
In any case... my comment stands: Pathfinder Society Scenarios each consist of several encounters, not just one encounter, which is what side treks basically were and what we kept trying (and failing) to do with the set pieces. And it's worth pointing out as well that the average scenario is still quite a bit longer than 4–6 pages, which was the target page count for a side-trek or a set piece adventure.
I would like to see an adventure path or a set of modules set in a mega-dungeon setting. A full throtle dungeon delve from level 1 to 15.
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Even if it can't be the box sets of old, maybe a bundled option? Something easily assembled on the backside, easily packaged together. Then occasionally sold at a small discount. Something with a little flavor of every line tossed that makes into one combo meal not-a-boxed-set boxed set.
For example: A module, a companion that relates to maybe the area, faction or most encountered creatures in it, possibly a flip-map/map pack and maybe a pack or so of Gamemastery items cards.
It's just a little taste of a little bit of everything wrapped together by the experts to make sure the flavors work well together. Something like what happened in an old fashioned box set.
A little bit of 'ooh' and 'aah' all in 1 shot.
You mean like this?
Sales were... underwhelming. Admittedly, part of the problem was that we were aiming it for the holiday gift-giving season, and due to problems at the box manufacturer, it didn't come out until after the holidays, by which time the stuff that was supposed to debut in the box had already been out for a while. But that just serves to raise another problem: getting stuff assembled always ends up being a nightmare. *Something* is late, or missing, or underproduced, or overproduced...
A Boxed Adventure set. I loved the Boxed adventures of old, Everything you need in one box. Maybe a few Battle maps, an long adventure for multiple levels and supporting material.
What else would us fans like to see?
+1 to the box idea, but as Lisa said..I couldn't afford it right now...
I'd love to also
-A hard bound Gazetteer
-As many AP add on monsters and campaign flavor as possible combined in a hardbound campaign supplement, so that you don't have to go flipping throught the APs everytime.
-Another game supplement as the Harrow deck or an "expansion" for it :P
-A Pathfinder board game :P
I hope I'm not repeating posted ideas already...
-I'm a sucker for books...hard-cover books-
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I want to see more stuff exploring orcs and gobbos, and maybe some lizardfolk too. I can't wait to see how you guys handle the "Savage Species" type book, as I love having the odd monstrous character in campaigns. And gnolls are just awesome (I think hyenas rock, too), and anything to make them playable is welcome!
I'd also like the fringes of Golarion to get some love, particularly Arcadia. I think Mesoamerican or American Indian themed stuff is awesome, but I'm a bit underwhelmed by Maztica. Please, please, please do something with this! Throw us some mound people and step pyramids, as well as dire llamas and the like. I want Aztecs riding battle-bison and Mississipian warriors brandishing flaming atlatls and charging into battle astride rabid axebeaks! And, and, and Amazonian tribesmen with giant ground sloth chariots! Oh, and magic powered by human sacrifice or ritualized cannibalism! Or a mystical fountain of youth! Or epic intertribal warfare, with the PCs stuck in the middle! Please, oh please give me what I seek!
Posting errata for every product we do would be nice, I agree, but until we finally get our footing back on solid ground with the PFPRG done (that includes the Bestiary), we won't have time to do much about official errata posts. And we'll be even more likely to do so if folks cool their jets, practice some patience, and try not to get all nasty about it.
Have you considered a section of the forum where people from the Paizo community could report such errata to a single thread per product?
It would give us a single place to look for it when in need, as well as a single place to report such errors.
I wonder how much work that would be to set up for the Postmonster bad guy.
Have you tried the blog tags page?I'd even settle for a part of the web site indexing the on-line content they've already provided (so that I don't have to go crawling through months of blog posts by hand or relying on the somewhat shaky "Search" function).This would be really nice. I'm sure it's on the radar somewhere, but way down on the list. The problem is, the volume of essentially inaccessible information is just going to keep growing...
I hadn't; in fact, I didn't even know it existed. I'll give it a try. Thanks!
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Vic,
Just to give a bit of feedback in terms of the bundled set, I know that when I saw it mentioned I know that I was excited and ready to make a purchase, but then realized that I already had 3 of the products it contained. I would imagine that there were a fair number of others in that same boat.
I know that doesn't make a boxed set or a bundle sound more appealing, but perhaps it is something that is more viable at those times when there is a swarm of different products being released at once? You could offer a bundle of some sort that would allow a group purchase(with something special to it, like the adventure in the bundle you linked to, or maybe just a slight discount on the group purchase) and you wouldn't be losing sales to yourselves that way with things that have already come out.
There are a lot of grumblings about the next couple months being particularly expensive on the gamers pockets and that seems to be a fairly common thing around GenCon. Its obviously too late this year, but a pack that comes out during your big release times would be great.
-Tarlane
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Have you considered a section of the forum where people from the Paizo community could report such errata to a single thread per product?
It would give us a single place to look for it when in need, as well as a single place to report such errors.
I wonder how much work that would be to set up for the Postmonster bad guy.
Not a bad idea... but I have little insight into the web side of things so I have no idea if this is a workable solution. We ARE going to talk about the official Paizo errata policy at tomorrow's editorial meeting though, so it's not like this is something that we're ignoring. :)
A tidy profit.
I was going to post something in this vein, but more like, "I would like to see Paizo make a [insert absurd imaginary numerical term] dollars on PfRPG." Then I thought, "Would too much success spoil them?" Maybe somewhere between "tidy" and my child-like financial sense (incidentally shared by the finance-oes who brought you the current economic crisis) would be good.
"a nice MLT: a mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that."
Pathfinder RPG Starter Set. Would love a Starter set for thier RPG, something I could use to introduce the game at a lower price and teach people the basics of the game.This will happen within six months. Lisa and Erik will see to that.Not likely. We have announced all of our products through next April, so it wouldn't be able to come out until after then. Erik and I have talked about the need for such a product, but I wouldn't expect it any earlier than Christmas 2010, and even that might optimistic if we want to really do it right, and not just rush something out the door.
-Lisa
Wow, slapdown!
Consider me suitably humbled (and more than a bit surprised). I would have thought "new player acquisition" would be one of the biggest blips on the radar with the launch of a new system like PFRPG, but it could just be a question of resources. I look forward to seeing it whenever it does come out.
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If I listed everything I would like to see Paizo make for Pathfinder I would be here all day typing up a list.
Big things would be to see PFRPG update version for some of my fav, things.
None core PC races, from teiflings to orcs to what ever.
Books about demons, devils, daemons ect. *yeah I know they have the first one of those coming out*
Expanded player options books. From options for existing classes to new core classes.
Magic, from new magic to books focusing on some of the classic magic using types. From Witch's, to Necromancers, Shadowmages, swordmage ect.
Just a rough quick overview of some stuff I would like to see, more than what they are doing currently.
I totally second the Book of Fey. A big book of Fey. I would so love a new dimention of evil, outside of the Demons, Daemons and Devils. Something with its own perverse motivations.
This one is for the far future...I would like to see some of the original APs and the Kobold King modules reprinted in one volume with errata and new material and converted to the PFRPG. (Just like Shackled City!) This of course would be in the future, when the originals have been out of print for a while.
Unfortunately, due to licencing disagreements, Age of Worms and Savage Tide will never be printed in nice volumes, that much has already been said. >pouts<
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Consider me suitably humbled (and more than a bit surprised). I would have thought "new player acquisition" would be one of the biggest blips on the radar with the launch of a new system like PFRPG, but it could just be a question of resources. I look forward to seeing it whenever it does come out.
New player acquisition is important... but at this point in PFRPG's life, retaining our current customers and players is MORE important. If we attract some new players, that's cool and welcome, but that takes a back seat to retaining current customers (and, by extension, those who play 3.5 and are on the fence about PFRPG). As Lisa suggests, a "Basic PFRPG" type product is a foregone conclusion at some point, assuming the PFRPG itself is successful, but it's not something we're really thinking about doing now.
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Gosh, I'd really like to see the almighty Flumph featured in a Paizo product, as per this thread here.
(Yeah, I know, I'm a dirty thread-crosser).
My experience working on Dungeon (with its side treks) and Pathfinder (with its set pieces) is that writers hate hate HATE writing short adventures, and that they invariably take more work than it's almost worth to trim back down to "short" status. I'm pretty fed up with the idea of short adventures as a result—anything shorter than a 32 page module at this point is probably not something Paizo's going to be tackling anytime soon as a result.*cough*
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In addition to being short, they have the added bonus of being relatively inexpensive. Now if only I could not have to print them out.
Of course, they'd be even better if I could write them. (well, not really, the writers are very good already, I'd just like to see my name up there one day too!)
I've been thinking of doing some conversions for these to 4e, since that's what I'm playing lately.
EDIT -> PS - this is not a dig against Pathfinder RPG, I haven't seen it yet to judge it. For me, Paizo's greatest strength is the stories the adventures tell, and they do it better than anyone, that's why I use their material for my 4e game.
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Wow, slapdown!
Consider me suitably humbled (and more than a bit surprised). I would have thought "new player acquisition" would be one of the biggest blips on the radar with the launch of a new system like PFRPG, but it could just be a question of resources. I look forward to seeing it whenever it does come out.
:) Not really a slapdown. Just a dose of reality. Paizo is a pretty small company compared to WotC and Games Workshop and those big behemoths. We have to focus and not try to do too many things at once. Doing an intro version of the PFRPG is a big task if it is to be done properly. As big as doing the original PFRPG, and that took us over a year to put together. There needs to be playtesting and focus groups with kids and non-gamers. The biggest problem in this industry is that companies just slap together their intro games and they don't really serve their purpose well. I want to do it properly. Which will take time.
In short, I would rather do it right than do it quickly.
-Lisa
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this elsewhere but I would absolutely love a Pathfinder Society Scenarios compiled hard copy book. I don't play in the society. I hate PDF's so I won't buy them but I would love to have a book chronicling all of the scenarios maybe with some extra material.... I'm a completionist and it frustrates me that I don't own them but if I can't put em on the shelf I don't want them enough to shell out the cash.
In short, I would rather do it right than do it quickly.
-Lisa
Win. Lisa gets a cookie or four. :D
Win. Lisa gets a cookie or four. :DIn short, I would rather do it right than do it quickly.
-Lisa
That's something I would buy from paizo. Lilith cookies. You could even shape them like different monsters. Kind of like animal crackers only a million times better.
One other thing...
Erratas.. I am still upset with Paizo leaving it up to the fans for the Erratas... I am pissed that I have to dig through Forum posts to find the mistakes and errors.
Are the errors really so heinous that they prevent you from being able to understand and use the books?
Posting errata for every product we do would be nice, I agree, but until we finally get our footing back on solid ground with the PFPRG done (that includes the Bestiary), we won't have time to do much about official errata posts. And we'll be even more likely to do so if folks cool their jets, practice some patience, and try not to get all nasty about it.
On this note, I have created the "GM Reference" for the Adventure Paths. I've also seen others attempt to do the same for adventures, but I haven't tracked thier success.
If we could have an "Errata" area where these kinds of things can be "stored" for and then easily compiled, that would be a HUGE help!
Now, if an Errata thread is attached to the actual product listing, THAT would be the ultimate! Essentually, have a new thread created each time the product is uploaded and have scripting that populates the link when the product ships.
Of course, a "Wiki" would be the most accessible way ; )
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Personally I want to see an Egyptian, Native American, and/or Aztec/Mayan setting.
There was Maztica for AD&D, nothing for 3.e and Maztica was eliminated from the FR in 4e. I don't want conquistadors or anything like that, just a setting for one or all of those, mostly the Aztec/Mayan. Religion, culture, weapons/tools and monsters... lots of monsters. I have no doubt that Paizo could do a rockin job on any one of these settings and I would definitely buy it. I'm sticking with the Patfinder/3.5, tried 4e but it's not for me, and that's what I want Paizo to make.
A Sci-Fi game setting for PF. Sci-Fi not Sy-Fy because if it was the setting would suck.
Have you tried the blog tags page?I'd even settle for a part of the web site indexing the on-line content they've already provided (so that I don't have to go crawling through months of blog posts by hand or relying on the somewhat shaky "Search" function).This would be really nice. I'm sure it's on the radar somewhere, but way down on the list. The problem is, the volume of essentially inaccessible information is just going to keep growing...
An index is better; it helps me figure out whether I actually saw a particular article or if it was a figment of my imagination. Not to mention that a full index would have more things than just the blogs (e.g. free downloads, FAQs, errata [if any], etc.).
The tags are nice, though. Did someone go through the whole blog archive?
Most everything I'd like to see has already been mentioned, but, in no particular order:
1) Mega-dungeon/dungeon crawl for levels 15-20. If it sells well, they can seriously consider doing more of these. If it doesn't, all the people clamoring for it get a cold shower of reality.
2) I think I want a Paizo take on psionics, but I'm a bit nervous based on how I see Paizo folk (I won't name names) commenting on what psionics is, and what's wrong w/ it as it stands.
3) At some point, an Epic rulebook.
4) New areas of Golarion, like Xian Tia or points to the east of Avistan. Not that interested in Arcadia to be honest, but YMMV.
5) Golarion-specific counters put out by Fiery Dragon; not just pdfs either.
6) Todd Stewart doing the Book of the Damned for the NE fiends.
7) Greg Vaughan's The Slumbering Tsar trilogy for PFRPG.
8) A POD option for Downer, Volume 2.
9) A hard- or softcover collection of PF Society Scenarios. I already buy the pdfs, but honestly, I'd buy a print version in a second.
10) An official Errata section for the site.
...my collecton grow.
Consider me suitably humbled (and more than a bit surprised). I would have thought "new player acquisition" would be one of the biggest blips on the radar with the launch of a new system like PFRPG, but it could just be a question of resources. I look forward to seeing it whenever it does come out.New player acquisition is important... but at this point in PFRPG's life, retaining our current customers and players is MORE important. If we attract some new players, that's cool and welcome, but that takes a back seat to retaining current customers (and, by extension, those who play 3.5 and are on the fence about PFRPG). As Lisa suggests, a "Basic PFRPG" type product is a foregone conclusion at some point, assuming the PFRPG itself is successful, but it's not something we're really thinking about doing now.
It is nice to see this actually. In my line of sales, we get a lot more milage from keeping our current customers happy and turning them into repeat customers. Extremely happy customers refer new customers. I'm not saying that attracting new customers is not important, but I'm glad to see that customer retention is a bigger focus.
Personally I want to see an Egyptian, Native American, and/or Aztec/Mayan setting.
There was Maztica for AD&D, nothing for 3.e and Maztica was eliminated from the FR in 4e. I don't want conquistadors or anything like that, just a setting for one or all of those, mostly the Aztec/Mayan. Religion, culture, weapons/tools and monsters... lots of monsters. I have no doubt that Paizo could do a rockin job on any one of these settings and I would definitely buy it. I'm sticking with the Patfinder/3.5, tried 4e but it's not for me, and that's what I want Paizo to make.
Well, I've meaning to do something like this (Central American-themed campaign) for several years, and might get around to it someday if Paizo doesn't get to it first. :)
I'd love to see . . .
* An AP focused on the Land of the Linnorm Kings
* A supplement detailing Arcadia, maybe even an AP
* A high level module or mega-module ranging from 18th to the low 20's
* Golarion Fiction (though I must politely ask that Salvatore be excluded)
* More information on the dwarven Quest for Daylight (I might have that title wrong).
* A PFRPG update to the races in Monte Cook's Arcana Unearthed
I may have mentioned this before, but a battlemat size flip mat. I like the really big battlemats, but they stain.
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2) I think I want a Paizo take on psionics, but I'm a bit nervous based on how I see Paizo folk (I won't name names) commenting on what psionics is, and what's wrong w/ it as it stands.
Trust me, those unnamed Paizo folk are equally nervous about psionics. Namely, if the majority of psionics fans like how they work now, who are we to "fix" them? I don't want to try to change psionics to appeal to people who don't like them now in a desperate attempt to make them like them. I want to "fix" them so that they do the things that I (and the rest of us at Paizo with an interest in psionics) want them to do in the context of both the game and their traditional/mythological role in the real world's tales and legends.
Best case scenario, we have a version of psionics that appeals to current fans of psionics AND the way we want them to work.
Middleground scenario, we estrange current fans, maybe attract some new ones, and have something that works for us but without the fans to support it we don't do much more with the rules.
Worst case scenario, we ruin them.
Taking those three possibilities, I don't want to do a psionics book if we can't hit the Best Case version; I'd rather let it lie. The Expanded Psionics Handbook IS, after all, compatible as it stands with PFRPG.
2) I think I want a Paizo take on psionics, but I'm a bit nervous based on how I see Paizo folk (I won't name names) commenting on what psionics is, and what's wrong w/ it as it stands.Trust me, those unnamed Paizo folk are equally nervous about psionics. Namely, if the majority of psionics fans like how they work now, who are we to "fix" them? I don't want to try to change psionics to appeal to people who don't like them now in a desperate attempt to make them like them. I want to "fix" them so that they do the things that I (and the rest of us at Paizo with an interest in psionics) want them to do in the context of both the game and their traditional/mythological role in the real world's tales and legends.
Best case scenario, we have a version of psionics that appeals to current fans of psionics AND the way we want them to work.
Middleground scenario, we estrange current fans, maybe attract some new ones, and have something that works for us but without the fans to support it we don't do much more with the rules.
Worst case scenario, we ruin them.
Taking those three possibilities, I don't want to do a psionics book if we can't hit the Best Case version; I'd rather let it lie. The Expanded Psionics Handbook IS, after all, compatible as it stands with PFRPG.
Thanks for the candid response, James. In my heart of hearts, I'm worried that the Best case scenario might prove too difficult. Psionics, as you well know, is a very polarizing subsection of D&D. It might ultimately be too risky to take it on.
And honestly, I could certainly live w/ the EPH as the main psionics rules for PF.
2) I think I want a Paizo take on psionics, but I'm a bit nervous based on how I see Paizo folk (I won't name names) commenting on what psionics is, and what's wrong w/ it as it stands.Trust me, those unnamed Paizo folk are equally nervous about psionics. Namely, if the majority of psionics fans like how they work now, who are we to "fix" them? I don't want to try to change psionics to appeal to people who don't like them now in a desperate attempt to make them like them. I want to "fix" them so that they do the things that I (and the rest of us at Paizo with an interest in psionics) want them to do in the context of both the game and their traditional/mythological role in the real world's tales and legends.
Best case scenario, we have a version of psionics that appeals to current fans of psionics AND the way we want them to work.
Middleground scenario, we estrange current fans, maybe attract some new ones, and have something that works for us but without the fans to support it we don't do much more with the rules.
Worst case scenario, we ruin them.
Taking those three possibilities, I don't want to do a psionics book if we can't hit the Best Case version; I'd rather let it lie. The Expanded Psionics Handbook IS, after all, compatible as it stands with PFRPG.
I like how they are but wont we need a reprint because that is no longer printed. So maybe keep it the same and just Pathfinder the classes in the books and streamline the psionics like Pathfinder