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Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

When will we be able to sign up to subscribe to the Pathfinder RPG books (Core book, Bestiary, GM book, etc.)?

Liberty's Edge

they said yes, soon, just they didn't say when
be patient

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

At PaizoCon, Gary told me it should be sometime this week but he didn't have a specific date.

The Exchange

Running out of week pretty quick. Hope we see it (and the Fanzine DL) pretty soon.

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16, 2012 Top 32

I have two questions. (I think a remember seeing the answers in another thread, but it wasn't a thread dedicated specifically to PFRPG subscription questions, and I'm too lazy to track it down.)

1) What products other than the Core Rules, Bestiary, and GM Guide will be covered by the PFRPG subscription?

2) How large a discount off of cover prices will PFRPG subscribers receive, if any?

Dark Archive

Epic Meepo wrote:
1) What products other than the Core Rules, Bestiary, and GM Guide will be covered by the PFRPG subscription?

Eric said Everything Here From August Onwards....

Don't know on the discount, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pathfinder Advantage move to the RGP subscription, and the APs get just a basic 15% discount.....

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Nevynxxx wrote:
Don't know on the discount, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Pathfinder Advantage move to the RGP subscription, and the APs get just a basic 15% discount.....

I certainly hope not. If I commit to buy something, site unseen on a monthly basis, I'd much prefer to get 30% off that than to get it off something I will only be buying every four months. Granted, the regularity of products in the late summer/early fall of this year might warrant a larger discount, but in general, I want my largest discount to come off the item I'm buying most often.

Grand Lodge

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
yoda8myhead wrote:
I certainly hope not. If I commit to buy something, site unseen on a monthly basis, I'd much prefer to get 30% off that than to get it off something I will only be buying every four months. Granted, the regularity of products in the late summer/early fall of this year might warrant a larger discount, but in general, I want my largest discount to come off the item I'm buying most often.

I agree and I don't think they will change it. I would guess only the hardcore junkies like myself will subscribe to the RPG stuff. A lot of players would like to look through the GM books and bestiaries and not buy them. I for one would be disappointed if the changed it.

Dark Archive

yoda8myhead wrote:


I certainly hope not. If I commit to buy something, site unseen on a monthly basis, I'd much prefer to get 30% off that than to get it off something I will only be buying every four months. Granted, the regularity of products in the late summer/early fall of this year might warrant a larger discount, but in general, I want my largest discount to come off the item I'm buying most often.

Sorry, I'll rephrase as I seem to have miss-remembered my discounts!

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Pathfinder Advantage move to the RPG subscription, and the APs just go to being the basic discount they get now.....

I think the Advantage (i.e. the 15% off everything in store etc etc) fits more on the RPG line, let a lone the name....I don't see them Upping the cost of the AP to subscribers at this point.....That would be silly!

The Exchange

Nevynxxx wrote:
yoda8myhead wrote:


I certainly hope not. If I commit to buy something, site unseen on a monthly basis, I'd much prefer to get 30% off that than to get it off something I will only be buying every four months. Granted, the regularity of products in the late summer/early fall of this year might warrant a larger discount, but in general, I want my largest discount to come off the item I'm buying most often.

Sorry, I'll rephrase as I seem to have miss-remembered my discounts!

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Pathfinder Advantage move to the RPG subscription, and the APs just go to being the basic discount they get now.....

I think the Advantage (i.e. the 15% off everything in store etc etc) fits more on the RPG line, let a lone the name....I don't see them Upping the cost of the AP to subscribers at this point.....That would be silly!

I think the Pathfinder Advantage will go where it will draw the most customers, which is to say 'stay where it is'. Yes, the PFRPG will have a lot of subscribers, but I think it will only be a fraction of the AP subscribers.

Of course, I could be wrong. In which case it wold make sense to move it, but I really don't see it happening.

Either way I'm good, since I'll be subscribing to both anyway.


I sure would not be happy about such a change.


Dreamweaver wrote:
I agree and I don't think they will change it. I would guess only the hardcore junkies like myself will subscribe to the RPG stuff.

Me: Hello, my name is david and I am a Pathfinder Junkie.

-- david
Papa.DRB


Papa-DRB wrote:
Me: Hello, my name is david and I am a Pathfinder Junkie.

Hi David! Cookie? *offers a plate forth*


Epic Meepo wrote:

I have two questions. (I think a remember seeing the answers in another thread, but it wasn't a thread dedicated specifically to PFRPG subscription questions, and I'm too lazy to track it down.)

1) What products other than the Core Rules, Bestiary, and GM Guide will be covered by the PFRPG subscription?

2) How large a discount off of cover prices will PFRPG subscribers receive, if any?

I imagine the discount will be what it is now, which isn't 30%.

Unfortunately Paizo has to watch how well they treat us, since they don't want to cut their own throats with retailers. Maybe they could get away with giving us a temporary "dedicated customer appreciation discount" at 30% for 30 to 60 days on the PFRPG, but to make it something like 30% permanently? I would be pleasantly shocked to see that happen.


Damn. Its friday, the blog is up. No sign of a subscription. It must have been delayed and I won't get to check over the weekend.

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Patience.


Erik Mona wrote:
Patience.

English is only my second language... Is that something to eat?

;)


Erik Mona wrote:
Patience.

I feel my youth draining away...!

*deep breath* It's okay, Eoin, it's okay. Just take it minute by mintue.


I'm most interested in knowing whether or not purchasing the RPG core book through Paizo will net me a .pdf or if I'll just wind up getting the rules. I can get the rulebook through the bookstore I work at for 25% off without paying shipping, but I'd very much like the .pdf of the rules to reference as well.

The Exchange

Disciple of Sakura wrote:
I'm most interested in knowing whether or not purchasing the RPG core book through Paizo will net me a .pdf or if I'll just wind up getting the rules. I can get the rulebook through the bookstore I work at for 25% off without paying shipping, but I'd very much like the .pdf of the rules to reference as well.

Pretty sure they said (somewhere) that a subscription will include PDFs. Most likely if you just buy the book from the Paizo store it will not include a PDF. Same as the APs and modules now.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Erik Mona wrote:
Patience.

Ooooooohhhmmmmmmmmmm

Ooooooohhhmmmmmmmmmm
Ooooooohhhmmmmmmmmmm
Ooooooohhhmmmmmmmmmm

Relax, grasshopper. Open your mind to the universe. Let time flow. If Sox fans can wait 86 years for a championship we can wait for this afternoon.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

It is already afternoon in Germany... *G*

Paizo Employee Director of Brand Strategy

Disciple of Sakura wrote:
I'm most interested in knowing whether or not purchasing the RPG core book through Paizo will net me a .pdf or if I'll just wind up getting the rules. I can get the rulebook through the bookstore I work at for 25% off without paying shipping, but I'd very much like the .pdf of the rules to reference as well.

At the PaizoCon announcement, Erik said that all products purchased through a subscription would come with a free pdf.


Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Oliver von Spreckelsen wrote:
It is already afternoon in Germany... *G*

Yes, it is. ... waiting ... Are we already there yet?

Liberty's Edge

vagrant-poet wrote:
Erik Mona wrote:
Patience.

I feel my youth draining away...!

*deep breath* It's okay, Eoin, it's okay. Just take it minute by mintue.

read Wayfinder while you wait, it will make it worthwhile :D


Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Lanx wrote:
Oliver von Spreckelsen wrote:
It is already afternoon in Germany... *G*
Yes, it is. ... waiting ... Are we already there yet?

It is always afternoon somewhere. :)


Zaister wrote:
It is always afternoon somewhere. :)

As Jimmy Buffet would say it is 5 o'clock somewhere!

Break out the single malt!

-- david
Papa.DRB


I don't recall Erik mentioning there will be a discount on rule subscriptions. The big advantage of the subscription is the free PDFs that come with the items. The items in the subscription will be:

PfRPG rulebook
Beastiary
DM Screen
Game Mastery Guide

The Game Mastery Guide will have all sorts of wisdom on running the game, lots of stat blocks for specific creatures (For example they mentioned there would be a series of 'cultist' stat blocks.)

I think the sub is worth it for the PDFs alone though I really don't use a DM screen so that's kind of a bummer that it's in the middle of that.

My favorite thing about the PDFs is that when I run a game I will be able to print out the individual pages from the Beastiary for easy reference.


yoda8myhead wrote:
At the PaizoCon announcement, Erik said that all products purchased through a subscription would come with a free pdf.

He said all products coming through *this* subscription would have a free pdf.

The same is NOT true for all subscriptions (like item cards, or Planet Stories).

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

w00t-w00t

Dark Archive

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber

Let's see if this works...

Edit: Nope, no new title for the RPG subscription yet.

Edit 2: Looks like they added the subscription before the custom title. But that's been fixed now.


Dennis da Ogre wrote:

I don't recall Erik mentioning there will be a discount on rule subscriptions. The big advantage of the subscription is the free PDFs that come with the items. The items in the subscription will be:

PfRPG rulebook
Beastiary
DM Screen
Game Mastery Guide

The Game Mastery Guide will have all sorts of wisdom on running the game, lots of stat blocks for specific creatures (For example they mentioned there would be a series of 'cultist' stat blocks.)

I think the sub is worth it for the PDFs alone though I really don't use a DM screen so that's kind of a bummer that it's in the middle of that.

My favorite thing about the PDFs is that when I run a game I will be able to print out the individual pages from the Beastiary for easy reference.

I think you're right Dennis, and I'm going to be loving the PDF printable monsters too ... except it's Bestiary!

The Exchange

Hmmm, I have a concern about shipping. I'm going to want my PFRPG pretty much NOW. but the only options available are

Hold everything and ship with the AP.

Hold everything and ship once a month.

Or Hold nothing and pay lots and lots of shipping fees.

I'd like to exclude my PFRPG subscription from holding while still paying minimal shipping fees for everything else. Think something like this could be possible? Say a 'Hold' option for each individual subscription line?

I mean imagine my misery if AP #25 ships before the 13th.. I'd be stuck waiting for #26 in September! Not a fun kind of anticipation. :(

Liberty's Edge

Not sure that it is a new feature, but I really like the: Example Subscription Shipments that are shown when you change shipment methods. Now I just need an amount September and it would be working perfectly.


So, now I subscribed to the RPG-line... What's my Tag saying?


Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Maps, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Darkwolf wrote:

Hmmm, I have a concern about shipping. I'm going to want my PFRPG pretty much NOW. but the only options available are

Hold everything and ship with the AP.

Hold everything and ship once a month.

Or Hold nothing and pay lots and lots of shipping fees.

I'd like to exclude my PFRPG subscription from holding while still paying minimal shipping fees for everything else. Think something like this could be possible? Say a 'Hold' option for each individual subscription line?

I mean imagine my misery if AP #25 ships before the 13th.. I'd be stuck waiting for #26 in September! Not a fun kind of anticipation. :(

Crap, you're right. Hopefully Vic and Gary have something up their sleeves.


Hot Dang! Got a new title!

Also, it canceled the separate orders for the final rules, the bestiary and the 2010 guide. Exactly what I wanted to happen! Good work Gary.

Oh, and yes, please hold off shipping the AP till after August 13th!!!! ( lol )

-- david
Papa.DRB

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

Stegger wrote:
Now I just need an amount September and it would be working perfectly.

Bah. You found the first bug in the new code!

Now I just have to find it and squash it flat.

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

Darkwolf wrote:

Hmmm, I have a concern about shipping. I'm going to want my PFRPG pretty much NOW. but the only options available are

Hold everything and ship with the AP.

Hold everything and ship once a month.

Or Hold nothing and pay lots and lots of shipping fees.

I'd like to exclude my PFRPG subscription from holding while still paying minimal shipping fees for everything else. Think something like this could be possible? Say a 'Hold' option for each individual subscription line?

I mean imagine my misery if AP #25 ships before the 13th.. I'd be stuck waiting for #26 in September! Not a fun kind of anticipation. :(

I think what we're going to do is make the system figure out what must ship via Priority Mail (the core rulebook) and split everything else out into a Standard Postal Delivery package (if that's actually cheaper). That code hasn't been written yet, but when it gets rolled out you should see the shipping price drop.

The Exchange

Gary Teter wrote:
I think what we're going to do is make the system figure out what must ship via Priority Mail (the core rulebook) and split everything else out into a Standard Postal Delivery package (if that's actually cheaper). That code hasn't been written yet, but when it gets rolled out you should see the shipping price drop.

Thanks Gary, u da man!


So, if I subscribe to the RPG line, I'll get a PDF of the book. If it's like any other Paizo Subscription, it seems that I could subscribe just for the core book (and maybe Bestiary), then cancel my subscription, netting me the PDFs without continuing fees. Is that right?


Hooray, finally!


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Many thanks! I've been waiting for the subscription instead of preordering to save going through checkout too often. :-)

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

eeek.... what am I going to do with all the versions of this book?

Lets see..

Photcopied Version for GMing at Gencon
Signed Version for Gming at Gencon
PDF Version from Subscription
and the Hardcover Version from this Subscription!!!

Dark Archive

Disciple of Sakura wrote:
So, if I subscribe to the RPG line, I'll get a PDF of the book. If it's like any other Paizo Subscription, it seems that I could subscribe just for the core book (and maybe Bestiary), then cancel my subscription, netting me the PDFs without continuing fees. Is that right?

Yup (but I'd stick around for the DM screen too. And then, that DM Tips and Tricks book in Feb looks fun....and, Oh Shit.)

Paizo Employee Chief Creative Officer, Publisher

Disciple of Sakura wrote:
So, if I subscribe to the RPG line, I'll get a PDF of the book. If it's like any other Paizo Subscription, it seems that I could subscribe just for the core book (and maybe Bestiary), then cancel my subscription, netting me the PDFs without continuing fees. Is that right?

Yes, this is correct. We'll hope you stick around for the other stuff, but you are free to cancel your subscription at any time.

Dataphiles

Erik Mona wrote:
Disciple of Sakura wrote:
So, if I subscribe to the RPG line, I'll get a PDF of the book. If it's like any other Paizo Subscription, it seems that I could subscribe just for the core book (and maybe Bestiary), then cancel my subscription, netting me the PDFs without continuing fees. Is that right?

Yes, this is correct. We'll hope you stick around for the other stuff, but you are free to cancel your subscription at any time.

Soo.... Last things last, when will the Titanic Games subscription happen? Might as well go for the Monty Haul....


Nevynxxx wrote:
Yup (but I'd stick around for the DM screen too. And then, that DM Tips and Tricks book in Feb looks fun....and, Oh s@#@.)

Yeah, I know... resistance is futile...

Sovereign Court

Erik Mona wrote:
Disciple of Sakura wrote:
So, if I subscribe to the RPG line, I'll get a PDF of the book. If it's like any other Paizo Subscription, it seems that I could subscribe just for the core book (and maybe Bestiary), then cancel my subscription, netting me the PDFs without continuing fees. Is that right?

Yes, this is correct. We'll hope you stick around for the other stuff, but you are free to cancel your subscription at any time.

Hi Erik.

What about those (like me) who preordered several copies of the PRPG and Bestiary for gamer friends, before the announcement of this subscription? Are we (all) out of luck? (i.e. no PDF and/or no transferable subscription) It appears that something should be worked out (perhaps a discount code or something) so that our gaming gang can then get the PDFs for the PRPGs/Bestiaries we bought. I noticed that half of the table (who had preordered with me) seemed disappointed at these news, and the other half (who had not preordered) were like "yay! I'm rewarded for my mercenary wait-and-see attitude!" :P

I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on this.

Cheers!

PDK

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