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Rev Rosey wrote:
Lazaro asked a while back about regional benefits. I'm happy for you to use them (Leo already has). Voila - for your delectation and delight.

Note that the FRPG has them for other regions (e.g., Netheril); I'll be glad to post specific ones if people are from somewhere not on Rev Rosey's list.


Human
Pat o' the Ninth Power wrote:
Rev Rosey wrote:
Lazaro asked a while back about regional benefits. I'm happy for you to use them (Leo already has). Voila - for your delectation and delight.
Note that the FRPG has them for other regions (e.g., Netheril); I'll be glad to post specific ones if people are from somewhere not on Rev Rosey's list.

Ah thank you. I was worried about that as I couldn't see all the places and Amazon have still failed me. Blast them.

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Male Lesbian Cyborg Bastard Child of Paizo 18

Hi everyone. Rev invited me to sit in as an alternate. I just have one question, and it may have been answered already. However I did not see the answer as I was skimming through the earlier posts so I will ask anyway. What are the racial restrictions, if any?


David Fryer wrote:
Hi everyone. Rev invited me to sit in as an alternate. I just have one question, and it may have been answered already. However I did not see the answer as I was skimming through the earlier posts so I will ask anyway. What are the racial restrictions, if any?

Hi, David. Rosey's in the UK, so I'll field this one, still being awake.

I believe the answer is PHB + FRPG + back of MM, but I don't see it here either. I suspect it's in the Gamer Connection thread.

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Male Lesbian Cyborg Bastard Child of Paizo 18

Thanks. Is there anything in particular that might be needed if I have to step in? I want to play a firesoul Genasi, but I am pretty open to any class.

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Caine

Spoiler:
Rough sketch of background.

Caine was a member of the Purple Dragons. His lack of noble blood was hindrance to his rising up in the ranks though he has proven his skill at leading men into battle. Too many forlorn hopes and Caine decided to file his application for discharge.

Thereafter, he started working as a mercenary.


Human
Radavel wrote:
Caine** spoiler omitted **

Works for me. Looking forward to seeing him.


Human
Pat o' the Ninth Power wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Hi everyone. Rev invited me to sit in as an alternate. I just have one question, and it may have been answered already. However I did not see the answer as I was skimming through the earlier posts so I will ask anyway. What are the racial restrictions, if any?

Hi, David. Rosey's in the UK, so I'll field this one, still being awake.

I believe the answer is PHB + FRPG + back of MM, but I don't see it here either. I suspect it's in the Gamer Connection thread.

Thanks Pat - the usefulness of different time zones.

David - also thanks. Pat is correct. Please bear in mind that until my FRPG shows up, I'm unable to use anything not already in the public domain myself.

As far as filling gaps goes, we have the following:

Brujo - Swordmage - defender
Caine - Fighter/warlord probably - defender/leader
Chyzylyx - Feypact warlock - striker
Cronin - Cleric - leader
Geleri - Ranger/rogue/wizard - striker with minor controller abilities
Leo - Paladin - defender

The obvious gap is specialist controller.

Just for reference, could you all note your time zones for me? Some of them I roughly know, but tell me if I'm wrong. (Pluses and minuses from UK time)

Rev Rosey - UK
Fabes - UK
Radavel - +8 hours
Pat - -5 hours
Lazaro - ? but we often seem to overlap
hopeless - ?
Otto - ?
David Fryer - ?


Male Half Elf Paladin 6th
David Fryer wrote:
Thanks. Is there anything in particular that might be needed if I have to step in? I want to play a firesoul Genasi, but I am pretty open to any class.

There was a pdf regarding living forgotten realms and there was even an intro to the new 4e faerun which involved the Drow, Genasi and even the Swordblade, I'll doublecheck later and see about the firesoul bit since I don't have access to it at the moment.


Male Half Elf Paladin 6th
Rev Rosey wrote:


As far as filling gaps goes, we have the following:

Brujo - Swordmage - defender
Caine - Fighter/warlord probably - defender/leader
Chyzylyx - Feypact warlock - striker
Cronin - Cleric - leader
Geleri - Ranger/rogue/wizard - striker with minor controller abilities
Leo - Paladin - defender

The obvious gap is specialist controller.

Just for reference, could you all note your time zones for me? Some of them I roughly know, but tell me if I'm wrong. (Pluses and minuses from UK time)

Rev Rosey - UK
Fabes - UK
Radavel - +8 hours
Pat - -5 hours
Lazaro - ? but we often seem to overlap
hopeless - UK
Otto - ?
David Fryer - ?

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Male Lesbian Cyborg Bastard Child of Paizo 18
Rev Rosey wrote:
Pat o' the Ninth Power wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Hi everyone. Rev invited me to sit in as an alternate. I just have one question, and it may have been answered already. However I did not see the answer as I was skimming through the earlier posts so I will ask anyway. What are the racial restrictions, if any?

Hi, David. Rosey's in the UK, so I'll field this one, still being awake.

I believe the answer is PHB + FRPG + back of MM, but I don't see it here either. I suspect it's in the Gamer Connection thread.

Thanks Pat - the usefulness of different time zones.

David - also thanks. Pat is correct. Please bear in mind that until my FRPG shows up, I'm unable to use anything not already in the public domain myself.

As far as filling gaps goes, we have the following:

Brujo - Swordmage - defender
Caine - Fighter/warlord probably - defender/leader
Chyzylyx - Feypact warlock - striker
Cronin - Cleric - leader
Geleri - Ranger/rogue/wizard - striker with minor controller abilities
Leo - Paladin - defender

The obvious gap is specialist controller.

Just for reference, could you all note your time zones for me? Some of them I roughly know, but tell me if I'm wrong. (Pluses and minuses from UK time)

Rev Rosey - UK
Fabes - UK
Radavel - +8 hours
Pat - -5 hours
Lazaro - ? but we often seem to overlap
hopeless - ?
Otto - ?
David Fryer - -8 hours from GMT

I will play a wizard then, if I come in.


Human

David

Seven players is my absolute limit, but go ahead and rustle yourself up a character. 4E makes scaling pretty easy. My gut feeling is the group would work better with a controller and keen is always a winner for me. Consider yourself a bona fide player. Bear with me on the firesoul Genasi as I have very little on that so far.

Level 2 pc.
Standard tools of your trade (up to value of about 100gp) already in your possession.
1 magic item (up to level 3)
225gp to play with.
Regional feat permitted.

Question for the ghostly lady required.

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Male Lesbian Cyborg Bastard Child of Paizo 18
Rev Rosey wrote:

David

Seven players is my absolute limit, but go ahead and rustle yourself up a character. 4E makes scaling pretty easy. My gut feeling is the group would work better with a controller and keen is always a winner for me. Consider yourself a bona fide player. Bear with me on the firesoul Genasi as I have very little on that so far.

Level 2 pc.
Standard tools of your trade (up to value of about 100gp) already in your possession.
1 magic item (up to level 3)
225gp to play with.
Regional feat permitted.

Question for the ghostly lady required.

I will get a character made up tonight and submit it to you by tomorrow morning, my time. I am currently at work so I don't have access to any of my books.


"Form up!"

"I am Caine. Commander Caine."

"And you will find that when the fight starts,
I am your only friend."


Human
Commander Caine wrote:

"Form up!"

"I am Caine. Commander Caine."

"And you will find that when the fight starts,
I am your only friend."

Glad to meet him.

Geleri to finish and David to sort himself out a wizard and we're good to go.

OK. I'll aim to get this show on the road tomorrow evening UK time. Hope that suits everyone.


F Half-elf Ranger 4 (multiclass - Rogue)

That's right nice.

Sorry, I don't 'form up', whatever that means.

;)

Going for Waterdeep background as it is the closest. Geleri is a Loudwater gal born and bred. 1/4 of the population are half-elves, descendants of an ancient elf nation that is long gone.


Geleri Fairwind wrote:

Going for Waterdeep background as it is the closest. Geleri is a Loudwater gal born and bred. 1/4 of the population are half-elves, descendants of an ancient elf nation that is long gone.

FYI:

FRPG wrote:

GRAY VALE REGIONAL BENEFIT

You gain one additional language of your choice, you add Nature to your class skill list, and you gain a +2 bonus to Nature checks.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Aha!

Jolly good. Even better.


F Half-elf Ranger 4 (multiclass - Rogue)

There should be right about done now.

Equipment was quick n dirty - you know how I roll, DM. No fuss with the equipment list. I got me some Sylvan Leather +1 - I'm thinking correctly I hope that it fits in within your guidelines.


Human
Geleri Fairwind wrote:

There should be right about done now.

Equipment was quick n dirty - you know how I roll, DM. No fuss with the equipment list. I got me some Sylvan Leather +1 - I'm thinking correctly I hope that it fits in within your guidelines.

Sylvan Leather +1 is fine. I've added her Diplomacy bonus into the list of useful stuff you all need to know in the my DM profile. I'd query whether 4 daggers is enough if you're using them two handed as a basic ranged attack, but it's up to you.

This is not a party to mess around with. If I was a band of hapless gobbos, I would not want to meet this lot.

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Male Lesbian Cyborg Bastard Child of Paizo 18

Here is what I have so far.I should be able to finish the rest in the morning. Her question is

Spoiler:
How she can find and rescue her sister that was stolen from her family ten years ago.


Human
David Fryer wrote:
Here is what I have so far.I should be able to finish the rest in the morning. Her question is ** spoiler omitted **

David - I can't access this link. Could you set up your character under a Paizo alias please so I and the other players can see it. Thanks.

Question is fine.


F Half-elf Ranger 4 (multiclass - Rogue)

I'm for thinking that Leo is also a half-elf... but of course bonuses of the same type don't stack. But... if we were in different locations with half the party each we'd be fine! :D


Human
Geleri Fairwind wrote:
I'm for thinking that Leo is also a half-elf... but of course bonuses of the same type don't stack. But... if we were in different locations with half the party each we'd be fine! :D

Good spot. So now you can be extremely diplomatic as a pincer action.


Human

All of you

Please note that you will be out in the wilderness. You will not find it easy to re-equip yourselves with weaponry nor will be you able to pop to the shops for any specialist items you may discover you need. Food and accommodation however are not a problem.

With this in mind, think about what kind of stuff you'd take and buy it now. If the 225gp doesn't seem to be enough for anything you think you really might need (think vulnerabilities folks), post it here and I'll see what I can bring myself to allow.

The following are also needed ....

1. David - Paizo alias please and confirmation that your character is OK from me.

2. Otto - please can you amend Chryzylyx's healing surge from 6 to 4. Also confirm your magic item if you haven't done so.

3. Anyone who has not yet posted a question for Lady Saharel needs to do so. Spoilered up for preference. If you are planning to let the question you want answering develop as part of the adventure, that's fine, but the more hooks you give me, the more I can throw at you. I mean that in a good way.

4. ALL PLAYERS please post on this thread that they are sorted and ready.

... and at that point we are good to go. Looking forward to this very much indeed. Hope you are too.


Look forward to getting the show on the road. I did purchase a Everburing Torch.


Human
Brujo wrote:
Look forward to getting the show on the road. I did purchase a Everburing Torch.

Brujo seems fine to me. Looking forward to seeing how that sword plays. Cold and thunder damage.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

I shall review equipment.

Geleri has no question, she will be leading this motley band to the Tower, if such is acceptable.


M Goliath Cleric 14 / Storm Speaker / Druid

Good to go, I think.


Will update the char sheet in the next few hours (at work) and spend that 225. Ya healing 4 and I will take the witch blade.


F Half-elf Ranger 4 (multiclass - Rogue)

Well now, 225 is looking like a mighty lot of gold there. Granted I've spent 50 on getting me some journeybread but can I spend another 50 to get a healing potion?


F Eladrin 1

Well I believe DM stated we can get a standard set of weapons, equipment and armour at no cost, and use the 225 for 'other' stuff. There actually is only a single choice for magic - the 50 gp healing potion is the ONLY magic item less then 360 gp, so not a lot of choice there. I will use 200 to buy a healing pot and an extra casting for the 3 rituals I know, leaving me 25 gp. Not much else to do with the money, really...

Oh and I couldnt pick out a good place in FR from the abbreviated list above, so I will make myself a wanderer I guess with no special benefits.

Otherwise, I am updated and ready to ensorcel.


Chryzylyx wrote:
Well I believe DM stated we can get a standard set of weapons, equipment and armour at no cost, and use the 225 for 'other' stuff. There actually is only a single choice for magic - the 50 gp healing potion is the ONLY magic item less then 360 gp, so not a lot of choice there. I will use 200 to buy a healing pot and an extra casting for the 3 rituals I know, leaving me 25 gp. Not much else to do with the money, really...

Otto, Note that the rituals cost. Comprehend Languages and Tenser's each cost 50gp to buy/master, and Endure Elements is 100gp, before you even talk about components to actually cast them.

Believe me, I wish they were cheaper -- I put 100gp to Endure Elements myself!


Human
FabesMinis wrote:

I shall review equipment.

Geleri has no question, she will be leading this motley band to the Tower, if such is acceptable.

It is. Her curiosity may be piqued of course.


F Eladrin 1
Rev Rosey wrote:
...A couple of points...I suggest that you take three rituals only. Choose the ones you feel will be most useful. Your are not really a specialist ritual caster as yet, although if you want to go down that road you can do so. I think three known rituals for a second level pc sounds about right. You can have enough ingredients, reagents or whathaveyou for those three...

I take this to mean I have the 3. Will be happy to pay for them if I misunderstood.

Oh and as for my question: O great lady, what may I do to become one with the Feywild, and to bring it in ever-greater strength into the physical realm?


Female Genasi Firesoul Wizard 7

Here is my character Perigia. Let me know if you need anything else for her stats. I do have one problem. I could not find where it says how many rituals a wizard starts with. May be I'm just dense and missed it, but can anyone help me with that?


Can I get a magic item to improve my AC in lieu of the 225gp?


Perigia wrote:
Here is my character Perigia. Let me know if you need anything else for her stats. I do have one problem. I could not find where it says how many rituals a wizard starts with. May be I'm just dense and missed it, but can anyone help me with that?

Three shall be the number . . . (PHB158)


Human
Chryzylyx wrote:
Rev Rosey wrote:
...A couple of points...I suggest that you take three rituals only. Choose the ones you feel will be most useful. Your are not really a specialist ritual caster as yet, although if you want to go down that road you can do so. I think three known rituals for a second level pc sounds about right. You can have enough ingredients, reagents or whathaveyou for those three...

I take this to mean I have the 3. Will be happy to pay for them if I misunderstood.

Oh and as for my question: O great lady, what may I do to become one with the Feywild, and to bring it in ever-greater strength into the physical realm?

You do have the three rituals. You know them as part of your first level bonus starting package (so to speak) and you also have enough reagents and whatnot to cast each of them once.

If you think you're going to need to cast them more than once, you will need to spend some of your 225gp on more ingredients. Fair?

I am aware that 225gp will not buy much. I've suffered myself many a time from being unable to buy things.

The question is absolutely fine. It sounds like the kind of thing she'd ask. Answering it is a whole other kettle of fish mind you!


Human
Commander Caine wrote:
Can I get a magic item to improve my AC in lieu of the 225gp?

Unless you can convince me that any such AC improver is worth 225gp or less, no, you can't.

In which case of course you may buy it.

Does Commander Caine have any questions for Lady Saharel, or is he, like Geleri, simply there to earn an honest living?

It occurs to me that your communal financial woes can be resolved if a couple of you know each other and are prepared to pool resources. If any of you want to do that (and it's appropriate to your characters - Brujo is not a likely candidate for example) I won't stop you.


Human
Perigia wrote:
Here is my character Perigia. Let me know if you need anything else for her stats. I do have one problem. I could not find where it says how many rituals a wizard starts with. May be I'm just dense and missed it, but can anyone help me with that?

Perigia is fine. I do have one request though. Could you post the actual numbers involved with your powers (including cantrips)? It makes life a lot simpler for me if all the information is in one place, particularly as damage type can make a lot of difference under 4E rules.

For example, Magic Missile -

At will power: + (insert Int bonus here) -v- Ref. 2d4+ (insert Int bonus) force damage. Ranged 20.

Thanks!


M Goliath Cleric 14 / Storm Speaker / Druid
Rev Rosey wrote:
You do have the three rituals. You know them as part of your first level bonus starting package (so to speak) and you also have enough reagents and whatnot to cast each of them once.

Ooh, ooh! Can I get in on this action?


Human
Cronin wrote:
Rev Rosey wrote:
You do have the three rituals. You know them as part of your first level bonus starting package (so to speak) and you also have enough reagents and whatnot to cast each of them once.
Ooh, ooh! Can I get in on this action?

Yes, of course you can. So can any of you.


Rev Rosey wrote:
Cronin wrote:
Rev Rosey wrote:
You do have the three rituals. You know them as part of your first level bonus starting package (so to speak) and you also have enough reagents and whatnot to cast each of them once.
Ooh, ooh! Can I get in on this action?
Yes, of course you can. So can any of you.

Cool. To be clear -- clerics start out with two 1st-level rituals, Gentle Repose and one other. What's the budget for "starting-package" rituals beyond that?

Thanks.


Human

Ack. I seem to have thoroughly confused everyone. Let's try this again.

Chryzylyx, Cronin and Perigia all have the ritual caster feat. As part of their useful starting package, they can have three bonus level 1 rituals. This "starting package" includes enough whatever to cast each of those rituals once. Ritual casters who take this one time offer still get their 225gp and if they want to be able to cast anything more than once will need to buy the reagents/ingredients from this cash.

To compensate, the non ritual casters (Brujo, Caine, Geleri and Leo) can have an additional 150gp (roughly what 3 level 1 rituals would cost). Which brings you up to 375gp. So, if you want to buy yourselves a level 1 magic item, you can do so.

Commander Caine, if you want to do something to upgrade your AC, you're free to do it, since you can probably afford it now.

If the ritual casters don't want to take advantage of starting package rituals, they can take the extra money instead.

Go shop. Tell me what you've got. I'm about to assemble a game thread :D


M H Sorcerer 1

That is a very even-handed and righteous call, DM, my hat's off to you. I really wanted that +1 fey armour, but I made my ritual bed, I will lie in it heh.

Cant wait to start the game! My first 4E experience, this is very exciting for me. I am still on the fence about switching over - I cant with my current group until the end of the campaign, so the soonest I could even think of it is probably at least a year away, heh. At least that will give me ample time to familiarize myself with the rules heh.


Male Half Elf Paladin 6th
Rev Rosey wrote:

Ack. I seem to have thoroughly confused everyone. Let's try this again.

To compensate, the non ritual casters (Brujo, Caine, Geleri and Leo) can have an additional 150gp (roughly what 3 level 1 rituals would cost). Which brings you up to 375gp. So, if you want to buy yourselves a level 1 magic item, you can do so.

Commander Caine, if you want to do something to upgrade your AC, you're free to do it, since you can probably afford it now.

If the ritual casters don't want to take advantage of starting package rituals, they can take the extra money instead.

Go shop. Tell me what you've got. I'm about to assemble a game thread :D

Can I use this to upgrade the Holy Symbol of Hope+1 that Leo has to a Holy Symbol of Battle+1 ?

The amount mentioned is more than the difference between the Level 3 Holy Symbol and the Level 5 Symbol of Battle+1, will await response if no will simply choose to upgrade the long sword to a Magic+1.


Human
Leo the half elven Paladin wrote:
Rev Rosey wrote:

Ack. I seem to have thoroughly confused everyone. Let's try this again.

To compensate, the non ritual casters (Brujo, Caine, Geleri and Leo) can have an additional 150gp (roughly what 3 level 1 rituals would cost). Which brings you up to 375gp. So, if you want to buy yourselves a level 1 magic item, you can do so.

Commander Caine, if you want to do something to upgrade your AC, you're free to do it, since you can probably afford it now.

If the ritual casters don't want to take advantage of starting package rituals, they can take the extra money instead.

Go shop. Tell me what you've got. I'm about to assemble a game thread :D

Can I use this to upgrade the Holy Symbol of Hope+1 that Leo has to a Holy Symbol of Battle+1 ?

The amount mentioned is more than the difference between the Level 3 Holy Symbol and the Level 5 Symbol of Battle+1, will await response if no will simply choose to upgrade the long sword to a Magic+1.

My gut preference would be for you to upgrade the longsword and keep the level 3 Holy symbol. It just seems more balanced that way to me.


Human
Otto Ringus wrote:

That is a very even-handed and righteous call, DM, my hat's off to you. I really wanted that +1 fey armour, but I made my ritual bed, I will lie in it heh.

Cant wait to start the game! My first 4E experience, this is very exciting for me. I am still on the fence about switching over - I cant with my current group until the end of the campaign, so the soonest I could even think of it is probably at least a year away, heh. At least that will give me ample time to familiarize myself with the rules heh.

Hope you enjoy it Otto. I'm putting together some reasons for you all to have assembled where you've assembled. Should be up within the hour and we will get going.

I'm aware there's some tinkering still to be done, but you need to meet each other and get this thing moving. We can continue with the mechanics faffage backstage though, it's only minor stuff at this point.


Male Half Elf Paladin 6th

[quote=]Can I use this to upgrade the Holy Symbol of Hope+1 that Leo has to a Holy Symbol of Battle+1 ?

The amount mentioned is more than the difference between the Level 3 Holy Symbol and the Level 5 Symbol of Battle+1, will await response if no will simply choose to upgrade the long sword to a Magic+1. My gut preference would be for you to upgrade the longsword and keep the level 3 Holy symbol. It just seems more balanced that way to me.

Okay will amend accordingly.

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