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Wow, this is truly pathetic. I come to these boards hoping to find intelligent discussion...Hi, troll! Nice to meet you. If you want to post on a Pro-4E thread then by all means do so. You, however, have posted on a 4E-bash thread which is truly pathetic as it means that your cognitive skills are lacking in choosing this thread as a medium for your 4E fanboism...ROFLMAO! :)
I do so love this community -- even when we're mean. Or maybe especially when we're mean!
I wasn't trying to be mean, I just take offense when people tell me that my feeling are invalid and pathetic, whether someone specifically put my name to it or not. I am allowed to feel rage and to bash 4E on a 4E bashing thread. I have put the time into the game and the money into keeping the hobby alive for quite some time. Now WotC is telling me that my opinion and my concerns are worthless to them because the Uber-kewl newbs will take over and I will be left behind. WotC has owned D&D for less than 1/3rd of its life, and they did some good things for the brand, but they are acting like the parent that tries to use the "kewl lingo" to act trendy in front of their kids friends and that just comes across as LAME.
This also reminds me of the Electronic Monopoly boardgame that came out. You just swipe a card now when interacting with the bank. None of that pesky basic addition or subtraction, just instant gratification.Soon we will dumb down society enough that nobody will be able to add without a calculator.
I feel like 4E is continueing the "dumbing down" trend.
Since it will be the funnest thing ever, how bout 'Fun Fun Fungeons and Dragons?'
Ahhhhhhhh, that's nice, back to the names.
Here's more:
Dicers & Doohickeys
D & D: The Same Game
Killer Dungeons
Darryl Hannah
and finally:
D&D 4.1 -" Ring-a-ding-ding, Come and get your sh*t"
I like the Dungeons & Dragons: The Gathering imagery...
D&DU Dungeons & Dragons Unevolved
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i love bob. if it were up to me, everything would be named bob.
"have you seen my bob?"
"im going to drive the bob to the bob to pick up some bob."
"i would like a bob, with a side order of bob."
"hey! you bob over there."
see how much easier life would be?
For a while, me and my unit called pretty much all latrines "Bobs". If you live in New Jersey, you know why.
Make of that comment what you will.
How about Donkeys and Dodos?
Dungeons & Dragons: The ADHD Edition
So far this one wins the award for my favorite.
As for the award for makes no sence but I laughed my butt off....
D&D 4.1 -" Ring-a-ding-ding, Come and get your sh*t"
Ok dispite this being a funny thread...If taken seriously it seems to me that 4th Edition is so different from its previous incarnations that its more than just an edition change. Its a brand new game.
4th Edition D&D really isnt a correct name."The New Dungeons and Dragons Game" is actually much better.
Even though it doesnt feel like D&D, realistically the name Dungeons and Dragons is the most marketable part of it so calling it D&D must remain. But 4th edition doesnt ring true for me.
4e Dungeons & Dragons: The Boardgame with Books,Dice& Miniatures.
Hax0rz S1ash
Deicides & Demigod-moders
D&D: 4th Perdition
D&D: AFK
DDø (D&D Offline)
GTA: The Dark Ages
No More Gnome Ore
For a while, me and my unit called pretty much all latrines "Bobs". If you live in New Jersey, you know why.
Note: I live in New Jersey. Where do you think I got the idea for the name from? ;)
World of Warlords (WoW for short)?
-The Gneech ;P
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C'mon guys! Dig down deep and show your h4te! I know some of you can be far more smarmy than that! To many of these names are kind of sad and unimaginative.
Thanks DD. I'm what the players in my group have dubbed a drinker of the "4e h4ter-ade" and your post really made me laugh. :)
It's nice to see that despite how strongly some people feel about one side or the other, folks can still keep a sense of humor.
-J
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They named it "&" when they took away Dragon and Dungeon.
I think I will stick with "D&D unplugged" (also known as version 3.5 where I do not need to subscribe to the DI to game.)
I love the sound of D&D Unplugged! It's like Nirvana's best album.
Dozens of drab digital dragons drinking down drenching dollops of draft ... in a dungeon.
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Why try to kill what is the most successful RPG probably in history so it can be replaced with its immature, rushed little brother?... As for your contention that 4E has been rushed - simply not the case. WotC has been working on this one for quite some time.
No they havn't, less than a year ago at D&DXP they "hadn't even started THINKING about it yet". So in 6 months they started thinking about it, revamped the ideas for the DI (since they had already warned Paizo about the magazines) and gotten promo beholder and troll figures made for the announcement. I am now convinced that they did not even start working on the rules until AFTER Gencon
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So glad you've decided to champion the cause and impose your view on all of the people who dislike the concept. You want a change, we get it. You will be first in line to buy the new and improved D&D. Great. Wonderful.
I have no interest in imposing anything on anyone. Just because someone on this board disagrees with you does not equate to to trolling or prostlytizing.
You are doing exactly the same thing that the "bashing and hating" crowd is doing except with a differing POV. Try not to act like your horse is higher and more important than everyone elses.
Hardly. I have no irrational emotions clouding my view of this new edition. I have said time and again that it could suck. Unlike the bashers and haters I hold no deep bias against WotC.
I represent a counter point to the hate but i do not hold myself out as a booster.
You jump on threads that are specifically anti-4E and then haughtily look down your nose at people with a different opinion and try to belittle their feelings and opinions.
So how are you any better?
Oh! Right, because your opinion is THE ONE that matters and all others are crap. 4E should be right in line with what you are looking for.
I hop on threads like this because I like these boards. I did not realize that participation was contingent on hating WotC and supporting those that would seek to keep the hobby I love from evolving and *gasp* attracting new players.
So I think I'll stay and, like it or not, offer my take on things.
I for one welcome our new Crosswiredmind Overlord!!
D&D $e
If we don't nominate or elect you will you serve? What if we promise not to say thanks or pay you, how about then? Surely there must be some conditions under which you will serve!
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If we don't nominate or elect you will you serve? What if we promise not to say thanks or pay you, how about then? Surely there must be some conditions under which you will serve!
Sure - as long as people keep posting irrational hatred and unwarranted hyperbolic bombast than I will champion the cause of balance and rationality.
Well Crosswiredmind, I think you'll be in office for a vary long time. Talk about job security!
Sure - as long as people keep posting irrational hatred and unwarranted hyperbolic bombast than I will champion the cause of balance and rationality.
There's nothing wrong with you liking 4E. Just as long as there is nothing wrong with us seeing 4E as a giant cashgrab that bends to will of the munchkins. Granted you are in a notable minority here, but there is room for all opinions here.
How about...
Dungeons & Dragons: Points of Light Edition?
A new set of core rule books expressly for the purposes of foisting sorry introducing the so-called designers idea of a 4th edition, except if that was the case wouldn't this be a campaign setting and since when are Tieflings core and Warlocks a core character class outside of a campaign setting where they can be...
Of course it should be renamed;
WOTC introduces the first edition of its new Dark Dungeons and Tieflings role playing game where whether you like it or not everything you've experienced before has been supposedly cast to the side so this version of the game has to be bought so you can really be considered to be playing d&d...
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There's nothing wrong with you liking 4E. Just as long as there is nothing wrong with us seeing 4E as a giant cashgrab that bends to will of the munchkins. Granted you are in a notable minority here, but there is room for all opinions here.
Just because I have a low threshold of tolerance for irrational hate posts does not mean that I like 4E. I just try to have a more balanced approach. Some things I like and some I do not. I just do not see 4E as the anti-christ of the gaming world.
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See? Those last two posts had no funny names at all.
Slackers.
Ok - since I am one of those posters mentioned.. my name for it is "The Edition that Got Awful DragonBall Technique Names in my RPG " or TEGADBTNRPG.
If this is too long then my back up name is The Matrix: Fantasy
Thats the spirit! Also, that first name moves 3e'ers one step closer to Dragonsfoot acceptable.
I just do not see 4E as the anti-christ of the gaming world.
Hey, that's not a bad idea. Anti-Christ, the RPG. Good idea crosswiredmind. :P
Seriously though, I wouldn't call 4e as having committed all 7 deadly sins of breaking with old school gaming. 4-5 of them, sure, but not all 7. They haven't hit antichrist status yet, but there's still time.
RPG Superstar 2013 Top 4, RPG Superstar 2011 Top 16
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So glad you've decided to champion the cause and impose your view on all of the people who dislike the concept. You want a change, we get it. You will be first in line to buy the new and improved D&D. Great. Wonderful.I have no interest in imposing anything on anyone. Just because someone on this board disagrees with you does not equate to to trolling or prostlytizing.
You are doing exactly the same thing that the "bashing and hating" crowd is doing except with a differing POV. Try not to act like your horse is higher and more important than everyone elses.So I think I'll stay and, like it or not, offer my take on things.
He says he doesn't like you...
I don't like you either!
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So far I'm loving ADHD&D and DDOffline
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There's nothing wrong with you liking 4E. Just as long as there is nothing wrong with us seeing 4E as a giant cashgrab that bends to will of the munchkins. Granted you are in a notable minority here, but there is room for all opinions here.Just because I have a low threshold of tolerance for irrational hate posts does not mean that I like 4E. I just try to have a more balanced approach. Some things I like and some I do not. I just do not see 4E as the anti-christ of the gaming world.
If choose to ignore the rational reasons that many posters have stated for their hatred of what is shaping up to be 4E, you should probably stop calling it "irrational hate". Maybe something like "I don't care why you hate it, my opinion is the rational one and thus yours is irrational hate". People including myself have said to you that your opinion regarding 4E is fine but you consistantly have to bash others' opinions and classify them as "irrational hate".
Belittling others' opinions and tossing out their feelings on a subject doesn't show a "balanced approach" to me.|
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If choose to ignore the rational reasons that many posters have stated for their hatred of what is shaping up to be 4E, you should probably stop calling it "irrational hate". Maybe something like "I don't care why you hate it, my opinion is the rational one and thus yours is irrational hate". People including myself have said to you that your opinion regarding 4E is fine but you consistantly have to bash others' opinions and classify them as "irrational hate".
Belittling others' opinions and tossing out their feelings on a subject doesn't show a "balanced approach" to me.
I have not ignored the rational counterpoints to 4E.
I do not like the removal of saving throws. I do not like the rate of advancement. I do not like levels over 20 and god-slaying. I do not like the removal of the wild classes like druid and ranger.
I will wait until I see the actual game to decide if I will actually play it.
But hate? No. To hate a game or the company that produces it is truly irrational.
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But hate? No. To hate a game or the company that produces it is truly irrational.
You write "game" like it is Uno or something instead of a major part of many people's lives. I play D&D exclusive to all other RPGs. I have no other major hobbies that do not involve D&D in some way. For a company to make the game unusable to me and thereby making it harder to continue playing that game is a very important issue for me. Not just a minor changing of a fleeting interest.
I love D&D and when 4E comes out the majority of people will go to it with more making the conversion over time due to the rest of their group converting or just because finding a 3.5 game in their area will become really difficult to do. I can seriously see this compromising my own enjoyment of my absolute favorite hobby and most likely making it more difficult to get a game going or keep my current group together. This angers me.Hating a company that screws up my free-time leisure-time activity is far from irrational.