
Dale McCoy Jr Jon Brazer Enterprises |

You knew it was coming and only amount of time before SOMEONE started this thread. Now is your time to chime in and Give 4E a Better Name. Remember: all names are merely an extension of someone's opinion so do not treat these as gospel truth. Also, this is meant to be a fun thread, so have fun with it.
My nominations:
Exalted d20,
Dungeons & Dragonball 4Z,
Crap: The RPG,
WotC Hackmaster,
Disgustingly Overpowered Munchkins, and
Bob

Griselame |

Big Bill RPG.
Big Bill was a player in the first D&D circles in the Parisian universities (back in the 70's, when Francois Marcela-Froideval introduced the game) who became legendary for being such a rule advocate and a powergamer with unbelievable amounts of power nobody knew how he did it.
That's pretty much Dumb & Dumber 4.

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i love bob. if it were up to me, everything would be named bob.
"have you seen my bob?"
"im going to drive the bob to the bob to pick up some bob."
"i would like a bob, with a side order of bob."
"hey! you bob over there."
see how much easier life would be?
By Bob, I assume you mean Smurf.

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And in the spirit of "fun", I say such an "abomination" can only be called Mazes and Monsters
Smurf!

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Thank God Cause 3.5 is Dying and I Need Some New Rule Now
or just Dungeons & Dragons
Geez, you missed the point of this thread, but you did manage to work your point of view into yet another thread :)
And if you need new rules it's not like there aren't dozens of other good systems out there. Why try to kill what is the most successful RPG probably in history so it can be replaced with its immature, rushed little brother?
D&D4: Babies and Bathwater
D&D4: Cuz Customers Are Overrated
D&D4: Baaaaaaa!

Balabanto |

You could name it...
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm
I think it's a fine name for an overmarketed, lack of information, poorly designed piece of failed ecological horsecrap.

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Why try to kill what is the most successful RPG probably in history so it can be replaced with its immature, rushed little brother?
Well, it may be successful but that does not mean its a great game. 3.X D&D has some major flaws and is in need of a re-write. As for your contention that 4E has been rushed - simply not the case. WotC has been working on this one for quite some time.
So pardon me if I interrupt the bashing and hating with a much needed reality check - not everyone loves 3.X and some of us are looking for a change.

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hmarcbower wrote:Why try to kill what is the most successful RPG probably in history so it can be replaced with its immature, rushed little brother?Well, it may be successful but that does not mean its a great game. 3.X D&D has some major flaws and is in need of a re-write. As for your contention that 4E has been rushed - simply not the case. WotC has been working on this one for quite some time.
So pardon me if I interrupt the bashing and hating with a much needed reality check - not everyone loves 3.X and some of us are looking for a change.
Well, for the record, I DO love 3.X! And yes, for a game that they have been working on for such a long time; 4E sure looks like crap to me. Maybe they should have been developing better PR along with this so-called superior system. Oh well, there's always 5th Ed, which is most likely already in development.
And Happy Holidays btw!

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hmarcbower wrote:Why try to kill what is the most successful RPG probably in history so it can be replaced with its immature, rushed little brother?Well, it may be successful but that does not mean its a great game. 3.X D&D has some major flaws and is in need of a re-write. As for your contention that 4E has been rushed - simply not the case. WotC has been working on this one for quite some time.
So pardon me if I interrupt the bashing and hating with a much needed reality check - not everyone loves 3.X and some of us are looking for a change.
So glad you've decided to champion the cause and impose your view on all of the people who dislike the concept. You want a change, we get it. You will be first in line to buy the new and improved D&D. Great. Wonderful.
You are doing exactly the same thing that the "bashing and hating" crowd is doing except with a differing POV. Try not to act like your horse is higher and more important than everyone elses.You jump on threads that are specifically anti-4E and then haughtily look down your nose at people with a different opinion and try to belittle their feelings and opinions.
So how are you any better?
Oh! Right, because your opinion is THE ONE that matters and all others are crap. 4E should be right in line with what you are looking for.

Bavix |

Wow, this is truly pathetic. I come to these boards hoping to find intelligent discussion about the upcoming edition of the game that we supposedly all know and love but all I find a bunch of whining grognards playing "rename the game." I think I'll jump over to the Dragonsfoot boards and see what they're pissing and moaning about today. At least they have an excuse since they're all old and half senile.

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Wow, this is truly pathetic. I come to these boards hoping to find intelligent discussion about the upcoming edition of the game that we supposedly all know and love but all I find a bunch of whining grognards playing "rename the game." I think I'll jump over to the Dragonsfoot boards and see what they're pissing and moaning about today. At least they have an excuse since they're all old and half senile.
LOL We're pathetic grognards. God bless us, every one!

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Wow, this is truly pathetic. I come to these boards hoping to find intelligent discussion about the upcoming edition of the game that we supposedly all know and love but all I find a bunch of whining grognards playing "rename the game." I think I'll jump over to the Dragonsfoot boards and see what they're pissing and moaning about today. At least they have an excuse since they're all old and half senile.
One does not go to the mosque for a Christian sermon.

Tatterdemalion |

Wow, this is truly pathetic. I come to these boards hoping to find intelligent discussion about the upcoming edition of the game...
One does not go to the mosque for a Christian sermon.
Must... resist... urge... Aaiiigh!
OK, here goes: is Bavix looking for a Christian sermon, or a treatise on Satan's redeeming qualities? Opinions vary.
Apologies to anyone offended by my metaphor. I'm just joking (mostly).

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DangerDwarf wrote:They got them right in 1E, except they were called linguini balls there.The rules for pasta gonads are so broken.
Yeah, but they became extremely exploitable in the Player's Options series of 2e.
4e is supposedly going back to the 1e roots in this regards but will use the term linguine orbs instead.

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Wow, this is truly pathetic. I come to these boards hoping to find intelligent discussion about the upcoming edition of the game that we supposedly all know and love but all I find a bunch of whining grognards playing "rename the game." I think I'll jump over to the Dragonsfoot boards and see what they're pissing and moaning about today. At least they have an excuse since they're all old and half senile.
Hi, troll! Nice to meet you. If you want to post on a Pro-4E thread then by all means do so. You, however, have posted on a 4E-bash thread which is truly pathetic as it means that your cognitive skills are lacking in choosing this thread as a medium for your 4E fanboism.
There are other threads on these very boards that will cater to your needs so you may want to post there to garner a better reaction.As to the game we all know and love....
I love football. A couple rules changes are cool and wonderful at times.
Start talking about changing the grass color, changing the ball, making the players wear flags, etc. would all be unacceptable to me. The game I love would be compromised.
That is what I feel WotC is doing and in my outrage I complain...because of my love for the game.
I don't want a Paper version of WOW mixed with Magic:The Gathering with a bit of anime sprinkled. I want D&D. The game I love.

Tatterdemalion |

Wow, this is truly pathetic. I come to these boards hoping to find intelligent discussion...
Hi, troll! Nice to meet you. If you want to post on a Pro-4E thread then by all means do so. You, however, have posted on a 4E-bash thread which is truly pathetic as it means that your cognitive skills are lacking in choosing this thread as a medium for your 4E fanboism...
ROFLMAO! :)
I do so love this community -- even when we're mean. Or maybe especially when we're mean!

Dale McCoy Jr Jon Brazer Enterprises |

As to the game we all know and love....
I love football. A couple rules changes are cool and wonderful at times.
Start talking about changing the grass color, changing the ball, making the players wear flags, etc. would all be unacceptable to me. The game I love would be compromised.
That is what I feel WotC is doing and in my outrage I complain...because of my love for the game.
I don't want a Paper version of WOW mixed with Magic:The Gathering with a bit of anime sprinkled. I want D&D. The game I love.
Exactly. I don't think Football needs reimagined (Well the Dolphins could use a reimagined team, but that's a different story). Let me keep watching the game I know and love. Add in a 2 point conversion, great. Sac QBs by "hugging" them, ok sure, they last longer, fine. I don't want football mixed with the World Poker Tour simply because its selling well right now.
I love D&D. Give me D&D, not this crap they're pushing on us as D&D. At the very least, they could admit that not everyone is going to be thrilled about it and say that they're ok if stick with what we have.

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As to the game we all know and love....
I love football. A couple rules changes are cool and wonderful at times.
Start talking about changing the grass color, changing the ball, making the players wear flags, etc. would all be unacceptable to me. The game I love would be compromised.
That is what I feel WotC is doing and in my outrage I complain...[i]
4E- the XFL of D&D