Mmm...souls...
Had to go for Flame...
Guys, his first lair had a pirate ship (full of booty) in it..
His second lair was made out of Diamonds..
way cool...
Wizards of the...uhh, never mind, nothing to see here. :D
Wizards of the...uhh, never mind, nothing to see here. :D
NIce.
After them, then Eli for sure. Eli the complex and obsessed. Plus he can make your day go horribly awry just by clapping his hands!
Joshua Randall, you talked me into it. chalk up one more vote for eli tomorast :-)
messy
I mentioned in a previous post my personal satisfaction at having a chance to pull the wool over my PCs eyes with Lashonna, so she gets my vote.
I've always loved having NPCs betray the PCs. (It's a cliche, I know, but I love it!) But it's been a loooooooong time since I've been able to do it without my players having to pretend they don't know. A real mover and shaker, whose identity twists and turns throughout the last leg of the adventure path more than any other villain I can think of. (Benevolent elf...ancient silver dragon...ancient vampiric silver dragon! Awesome.)
Darl Quethos, gotta be. PCs stomping all over the Age of Worms are suddenly dazed and weakened: "What the !@? was that!?" DM: "Nothing for a bunch of veterans like you to worry about. The Hand of Vecna, that's all." Even if he and his gimps go down quickly, that initial spurt of fear is SO worth it! (Note: I could see this not making much of an impact if your players are under the age of, say, 30.)
Eli Tomorast is my bad ass choice.
daedel, el azote.
Darl Quethos, gotta be.
Sorry, can't vote for Darl since my dice betrayed him. He failed every save he got (both of them) and ended up getting petrified twice. Then he got pulverized. After that, I lost all sympathy for him. What a loser. lol
What does this title really mean? Is it who we think is the coolest villain, or the villain that actually does villainous things and makes the PCs lives miserable because of them? While Eli and Iggwilv are both cool-looking villains they really haven't done many villainous things in the pages of Dungeon Mag. Eli's on a glorified research expedition and couldn't care less about the PCs, while Iggwilv has never really ever reared her head. Also, aside from one or two villains they are all Post-3rd Edition. What about some of the older villains of Dungeon?
I vote for other!
Valantru . . . the group I'm currently going through SCAP (as a player with) were investigating his estate and reached the oblivion doors . . (opened by the various eye rays), and in trying to figure out how to open them, our party healer made a molotov cocktail out of a bottle of wine and tossed it at the door . . . . if you mix up the letters in oblivion you get "Boil Vino" . . .
So apparently we were supposed to meet up with the great one eye as he was finishing up some ritual, but since we bypassed the door to the climatic scene and holed up in his VAULT for the night to rest, he charges in in the morning and lectures us about how he's at his wits end about how annoying we are and how he's glad he finally has us cornered.
Sorry, I seem to be rambling abit. another reason I love valantru is because we too the "valantru suit" and stuck our Cleric of Wee Jass's Large Half-Dragon Zombie in it so he could finally get through medium sized doors.
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What does this title really mean? Is it who we think is the coolest villain, or the villain that actually does villainous things and makes the PCs lives miserable because of them? While Eli and Iggwilv are both cool-looking villains they really haven't done many villainous things in the pages of Dungeon Mag. Eli's on a glorified research expedition and couldn't care less about the PCs, while Iggwilv has never really ever reared her head. Also, aside from one or two villains they are all Post-3rd Edition. What about some of the older villains of Dungeon?
I vote for other!
What the post really means is: What is the most popular bad guy to ever appear in Dungeon? The list was culled from a previous post I made where I (stealthily) asked for nominations, and the 25 or so bad guys who got the most nominations got put on this list.
If there's a bad guy from earlier issues that you think needs a call out... by all means drop his or her or its name. In fact... that's a challenge. ARE there any pre-3rd edition villains from Dungeon who deserve to be remembered today? I think there are... but what about all of you?
What does this title really mean? Is it who we think is the coolest villain, or the villain that actually does villainous things and makes the PCs lives miserable because of them? While Eli and Iggwilv are both cool-looking villains they really haven't done many villainous things in the pages of Dungeon Mag. Eli's on a glorified research expedition and couldn't care less about the PCs, while Iggwilv has never really ever reared her head. Also, aside from one or two villains they are all Post-3rd Edition. What about some of the older villains of Dungeon?
I vote for other!
What the post really means is: What is the most popular bad guy to ever appear in Dungeon? The list was culled from a previous post I made where I (stealthily) asked for nominations, and the 25 or so bad guys who got the most nominations got put on this list.
If there's a bad guy from earlier issues that you think needs a call out... by all means drop his or her or its name. In fact... that's a challenge. ARE there any pre-3rd edition villains from Dungeon who deserve to be remembered today? I think there are... but what about all of you?
I seem to remember a ulitharid named Akuloth who ran a certain illithid outpost. He gets my pick for being the first ulitharid. How's that do for a pre-3rd edition villain James? ;-)
So James, when's the Draknor (larval and/or adult stage) going to make an appearance in one of the Pathfinder adventures?
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So James, when's the Draknor (larval and/or adult stage) going to make an appearance in one of the Pathfinder adventures?
There's a conversion floating around the office somewhere that, I believe, almost made it into a Creature Catalog in Dragon. I didn't do the conversion, but it was cool to see it in the running.
In any case, WotC owns the rights for the Draknor, so it's pretty much off limits. I'm sure if I asked nicely they might let me do an OGL version of it, but that critter's pretty much an adventure seed rather than an adventure guest star, so even then I doubt he'll show up in Pathfinder. He's just too specialized and destructive.
Lashonna .. she made the big play for immortality, used the PCs for her own ends, and combines cunning and beauty with ruthless ambition.
Because of her fall (literal and figuratively), she typifies the "better to reign in hell than serve in heaven" villain.
Plus she looks good in maroon, which you can't say about every villain :)
My vote goes to Eli Tomorast.
Saludos,
Gabriel
I went with Vanthus, mostly because of how long my party has HATED him! Between chasing him around Sasserine and Kraken's Cove, fighting off his pirates at Farshore, and now chasing him around the globe (and beyond!) when they thought he was dead and buried... he's been a thorn in their side for a long time, and that kind of impact is hard to match. The only other recent villain that comes close is Lashona, and only because she is given time to develop a relationship with the pc's before her betrayal.
Gotta go with Iggwilv....she gave birth to the nastiest bad guy in Greyhawk!
What the post really means is: What is the most popular bad guy to ever appear in Dungeon? The list was culled from a previous post I made where I (stealthily) asked for nominations, and the 25 or so bad guys who got the most nominations got put on this list.If there's a bad guy from earlier issues that you think needs a call out... by all means drop his or her or its name. In fact... that's a challenge. ARE there any pre-3rd edition villains from Dungeon who deserve to be remembered today? I think there are... but what about all of you?
He wasn't all that fleshed out, but I added a lot to Max Mordo and really made that circus ringleader shine. He and Azurax Silverhawk made for compelling villains the way I played them.
I have to go Old School- Warduke (Venger wasn't on the list.)
I could be convinced to change my answer to Smenk, but only because he got changed in my campaign. After the PCs exposed him as a criminal and got him arrested, I decided he should be another of Iggwilv's progeny (Iuz's bratty little brother). He stalked them all the way to the end. After the PCs defeated Kyuss, I had Smenk sneak into their (Zeech's) palace and attack them. You should have seen their faces!
Vhalantru - I only got to run the first Cauldron adventure, but when they met him in the Malachite Fortress, four players crapped themselves and had to explain to the fifth what a beholder was and why he should NOT charge the floating eye.
Tongue-eater died in ONE FREEKIN ROUND! Sux to be him...
James Jacobs for putting a list of double-crossers without any spoiler alerts for my players!
There's a conversion floating around the office somewhere that, I believe, almost made it into a Creature Catalog in Dragon. I didn't do the conversion, but it was cool to see it in the running.
It was originally submitted as part of the Monsters of the Mind article way back in 337. BOZ and I had really hoped the draknor would make it into the mag, but we figured its power level pretty much doomed it from start. We had alot of fun converting it, though.
Thunder Under Needlespire is one of my all-time favorite Dungeon adventures, BTW. :)
Hadda go with The mighty Eli for the win. He's responsible for the most TPKs in the history of my campaigns going all the way back to his appearance in the 1st edition version. It took my players 3 different tries to take out the man with the demon hands 'back in the day'and he racked up another 2 in the pages of the Dungeon.
hmm, I wouldnt have picked one of the ones on the list
There's a conversion floating around the office somewhere that, I believe, almost made it into a Creature Catalog in Dragon. I didn't do the conversion, but it was cool to see it in the running.It was originally submitted as part of the Monsters of the Mind article way back in 337. BOZ and I had really hoped the draknor would make it into the mag, but we figured its power level pretty much doomed it from start. We had alot of fun converting it, though.
Thunder Under Needlespire is one of my all-time favorite Dungeon adventures, BTW. :)
Yeah, the larval draknor was pretty insanely powerful already. ;) pegged it at CR 18 didn't we?
After the last issues of Dragon and Dungeons, we'll likely pitch any leftover conversions to WotC's DI (if they're even taking fan-submitted conversions), and if they don't want 'em, I can think of a place to put them. :)
Where's Avner? I mean, he's no villain, but he is a character who my players hate more than any other on this list.
Also, you should have included Thaddigren Dentiata from In the Dread of Night.
Vhalantru
Sure, everyone in both my SCAP games knew he was bad. You can just feel it. You just knew he was bad. But nobody knew how bad.
I liked his Palpatine-istic approach: Control all sides.
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My favorite isn't on the list. It is Huhueteotl from Dungeon #103 - Glacial Inferno by Kent Ertman. I thought it was a fun adventure with some interesting elements, and while he wasn't an over-arching villian, he delivered a near TPK in his Bodak form.
The thing is, my players should have had no trouble. Nobody had to roll higher than a 5 for their saving throw. The players had him surrounded, and he looked at one of the flankers. A natural 1.
Someone 5-foot step into that spot. Next round he rolled a 2.
Same thing, but a 3.
Then the same thing, followed by a 4.
With four of the six PCs dead, I reminded the cleric about undead and their weakness to positive energy. A couple healing spells later the fight was over and nobody else died. If only he had an easier to pronounce name. He's remembered, but his name isn't. He's just 'That one Bodak'.
Chalk me up as another person who would've voted for Bargle the Infamous, if I'd had the option. Instead I went with Warduke, who is a close second. He's wicked-cool, IMNSHO.
yea malchanthet, though she may not be a big strong tough villan she has brain power and cunning.
after reading through the latest issue of dungeon, I have to say that one fight I'd love to see is Malcanthet vs Shami-Amourae . . . regardless of who loses, we're all winners.
Here's yet another write-in for Bargle. The man has old-school cred.