Oh by the way, since I'm here, and since mentioning Planescape made me think of it; I'll plug Planescape: Torment which was just made a "Featured Article" at Wikipedia after a ton of hard work! We've been working hard to improve the D&D coverage over there, and (especially with our favorite stalker mostly silent for the last 6 months) we've been able to do a lot of good, I think. :)
I remember, maybe a couple of years ago, asking Wolfgang Baur about this one. I believe he created it as a throwaway reference for Planescape's "Planes of Chaos" if I remember correctly. He said, at the time, that he had just moved and all of his old notes were packed away. You might want to see if he's found any of these old notes, and what if anything they might say. :)
It *sounds* like JJ is saying that if he can't build off the flavor he's been working on for the last few years, he'd rather not work on the Demonomicon series.
I can definitely see where he's coming from on that; I definitely wouldn't have wanted to write the Archomentals articles based on the 4E cosmology. These guys are best when fighting for control of whole planes, not their favorite parts of one big plane. ;)
Of course, digressing, it seems like the theme of this thread is about the *artifact* called the Demonomicon of Iggwilv (which, in 2E, *was* called the Fiendomicon - yuck!), rather than the *article series* called the Demonomicon of Iggwilv.
here, i'll save you and everybody else some scrolling. ;)
Gruaghlothor possesses a constant telepathic link with all ferrous dragons, and thus even the most evil of the species will not defy his will, for he will know instantly.
Here are a few other sidebars that were trimmed:
Other Ferrous Dragons
The Iron Wars
The second Iron War was initiated by a group of chaotic dragons known collectively as the rock dragons. Rivalry had long existed between the two groups, but open conflict rarely occurred. Sensing the weakened position of the ferrous dragons, the rock dragons moved in for the kill. The second Iron War ended in the near-extinction of both draconic empires. Tiamat sent her chromatic dragons to crush the last remnants of both.
As a result of the centuries-long Iron Wars, Gruaghlothor has very little tolerance for in-fighting between the ferrous dragons. Instead, he prefers that their enmity be channeled towards the chromatic dragons, particularly the reds.
Here are a few other cut bits:
it worked just fine in EBERRON, (where it belongs), but in general D&D... :(
it's like losing an old friend, but on the bright side making peace with it hasn't been that difficult.
naturally, if i should ever feel inclined to run 4E i will not be using the cosmology.
that might actually make 4E worth playing. :)
At a 2+ year or so pace to run a 1-20, that gives me 14+ years of games that I can run. Puts me at 74+ years old, and if I make it that far, I may try DnD V6 at that point, or just retire!!
hey, that reminds me of something i was thinking about while at my grandmother's retirement home... i wonder how rampant RPGs will be at retirement homes in the next 10-20 years or so as the oldest generation of gamers reaches that point. :) it would be kind of how they spread through the army and prisons; you know, a bunch of guys with plenty of time on their hands, no family and such to keep them occupied. :)
you know, i submitted material for the original ToH, and i submmited a number of converted monsters to Dragon... hmm, hint hint. ;)
seriously though, a 4E ToH might actually get me to think more positively about converting. personally, i'd like it to not be beholden to the original set of monsters - you know, it could be maybe 75-90% the same creatures, shuffling it around to take out some of the more redundant or less interesting creatures from the original and adding some other "skipped" monsters from the AD&D days.
Erik Mona wrote:
currently? i'm with B as a player, and it sounds like everyone in my group is as well. we've all spent plenty on books in the last 5 years that we've been playing together, and are not looking forward to having to scrap them all in a few months.
i'm still holding out hope for C, but things don't look so good for me so far. the cosmology changes bug me, and i haven't heard enough good things yet to make up for that. as a past and potential future freelance author, i'd be forced to accept 4E if i want to do mroe work for WotC, so i'd have to accept the system enough to be able to work with it i suppose.