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A cheesy, yet fond memory I have from the original DMG was the Random Demon Table ("The creature has, lessee...the head of a crocodile, ummm... the body of a cow, huge claws aaaaand feathered wings, all covered in... long white fur. It snarls furiously and attacks!") - making a new one for quickly creating random extraplanar baddies could be fun. It might be hard to assign proper CR to randomly created monsters, though...
There was a version in the 1st Ed MM2, "The Hordeling", with random appearance and attack forms, to represent various minor denizens of the lower planes.
I believe this was revamped for D&D3.5, in "Maure Castle", but I can't recall if it was in the main issue, or one of the interminable extra levels.
How deep can you dig before the thing collapses round your ears? Have they reached the Earth's core yet?
Memory moss, wolf-in-sheeps-clothing,
I vote for a Fiendish Gary Gygax. I mean come on - Gygax. It even sounds like a demon's name. :)
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I can't find it at amazon, can anyone else find the "proof" of this?It's on Amazon, for July of 2007...
Somebody at enWorld found it.
http://www.amazon.ca/Monster-Manual-Supplement-Wizards-Team/dp/0786941154/s r=1-2/qid=1161926003/ref=sr_1_2/701-3831061-1457147?ie=UTF8&s=books
Barghests, Eye killers, Thunder birds,Air spirits, crypt things,Hecatoncheire,Fossergrims all come to mind.
Actually, all of these have already been done: Barghest MM, Eye killer (if you mean Ocularon) FF, Thunderbird Sandstorm, Air Spirit (Spirit of the Air) FF, Hecatoncheire ELH, Fossergrim FF.
New constructs like MMIVs Clockwork Steed, maybe adapted for dungeon/cavern/spelunking duty.
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A cheesy, yet fond memory I have from the original DMG was the Random Demon Table ("The creature has, lessee...the head of a crocodile, ummm... the body of a cow, huge claws aaaaand feathered wings, all covered in... long white fur. It snarls furiously and attacks!") - making a new one for quickly creating random extraplanar baddies could be fun. It might be hard to assign proper CR to randomly created monsters, though...There was a version in the 1st Ed MM2, "The Hordeling", with random appearance and attack forms, to represent various minor denizens of the lower planes.
I believe this was revamped for D&D3.5, in "Maure Castle", but I can't recall if it was in the main issue, or one of the interminable extra levels.
How deep can you dig before the thing collapses round your ears? Have they reached the Earth's core yet?
Was that the weapon-shaped daemons? I don't really remember either...
That might have been what killed the Maures - they fell into the molten core of Oerth on a digging expedition! Genius!
Actually a few have come to mind that I didn't previously mention.
Tribbles, Targs, Sehlats (all from Star Trek); Quintaglios, Forhilnors, Ibs and Tosoks from the novels of Robert J Sawyer; and new lycanthropes (weredinosaurs for example).
and new lycanthropes (weredinosaurs for example).
The lycanthrope template in MM1 is clear-cut enough that you can endlessly make your own. (Then again, goblins with class levels are clear-cut enough in MM/PH, but they made it into MM4 anyway...)
Hey guys,
Not to dash your hopes or anything, but I know a couple of the "designers" who worked on this project, so let's just say I wouldn't expect too much from this.
*COUGH* *COUGH* GGG *COUGH* *COUGH* TIM HITCHCOCK *COUGH* *COUGH* LOSERS! *COUGH* *COUGH!!!
Sad, yeah I know. Nobody cool worked on this book.
Was that "GGG" or you clearing your throat?
And who are you anyway? You remind me of that Neelix/Tuvok fusion creature from Voyager.
I have transcended myself...and Richard Pett. I am now greater than both of us...admittedly, that is not so great, but hey, it's something.
42?
Dude, don't be tossing around the average of mine and Rich's age like that, you're gonna make him feel really bad. Have some tact Heath. I mean I'm six years old! Don't be advertising Old Man Pett's age like that man.
Sad, yeah I know. Nobody cool worked on this book.Hey now. Jason and I contributed to it.
...
Oh wait.
Damn.
S%+*!
I forgot!
Okay...two cool people contributed to it...but that's it! Everyone else we know who contributed...
*COUGH* *COUGH* GGG, TIM HITCHCOCK, NICK LOGUE *COUGH* *COUGH...
scumbags of the highest order. Might as well let monkeys type out the new monsters I tell ya. Those guys...hey...wait a minute...
S#!%!
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Sad, yeah I know. Nobody cool worked on this book.Hey now. Jason and I contributed to it.
...
Oh wait.
Damn.
s@@~!
I forgot!
Okay...two cool people contributed to it...but that's it! Everyone else we know who contributed...
*COUGH* *COUGH* GGG, TIM HITCHCOCK, NICK LOGUE *COUGH* *COUGH...
scumbags of the highest order. Might as well let monkeys type out the new monsters I tell ya. Those guys...hey...wait a minute...
s@@~!
So [b}]YOU[/b] did the giant pineapple....
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So [b}]YOU[/b] did the giant pineapple....
Ah, that makes sense. I'm not sure how wise it was for Wizards of the Coast to show off their mini for that so far in advance, but I guess they wanted to demonstrate its size compared to the Gargantuan Black Dragon.
But who did the stats for the giant frozen turkey?
Hmm...
I thought he said tummy, but whatever. Maybe they'll finally stat Godzilla.
I thought he said tummy, but whatever. Maybe they'll finally stat Godzilla.
Already been done.
So [b}]YOU[/b] did the giant pineapple....Ah, that makes sense. I'm not sure how wise it was for Wizards of the Coast to show off their mini for that so far in advance, but I guess they wanted to demonstrate its size compared to the Gargantuan Black Dragon.
But who did the stats for the giant frozen turkey?
Hmm...
I just got this...and...
ROFLMAO!!!
But sadly, I've no idea whyever you gents would assume I would have anything to do with pineapples. Perhaps if it had been an enormous spotted dick mini, I would understand.
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I just got this...and...
ROFLMAO!!!
But sadly, I've no idea whyever you gents would assume I would have anything to do with pineapples. Perhaps if it had been an enormous spotted dick mini, I would understand.
;D
A suet-smelling ooze with a currant-spitting ranged attack would be pretty hardcore. ;)
I just got this...and...
ROFLMAO!!!
But sadly, I've no idea whyever you gents would assume I would have anything to do with pineapples. Perhaps if it had been an enormous spotted dick mini, I would understand.
;D
A suet-smelling ooze with a currant-spitting ranged attack would be pretty hardcore. ;)
Hardcore Spotted Dick...
nuff said. ;-)
Xvarts.
XVARTS!
Let loose the Xvarts!
D&D 4.0?I think we should be more concerned when they STOP coming out with Monster Manuals...
That can only mean one thing...
No, Fiend Folio II. Remember?
G3
*COUGH* *COUGH* GGG, TIM HITCHCOCK, NICK LOGUE *COUGH* *COUGH...scumbags of the highest order. Might as well let monkeys type out the new monsters I tell ya. Those guys...hey...wait a minute...
s*!!!
This from the guy who is giving us the bardic pineapple?
Dude, don't go tellin' Incanis what I write. He might get wise and figure out I also helped write that thing with all the characters and the monsters at that one place with those guys. You remember. The one with all the stuff that happens.
GGG
I want an official Changecat! With cool art, too! :D
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*COUGH* *COUGH* GGG, TIM HITCHCOCK, NICK LOGUE *COUGH* *COUGH...scumbags of the highest order. Might as well let monkeys type out the new monsters I tell ya. Those guys...hey...wait a minute...
s*!!!
This from the guy who is giving us the bardic pineapple?
Dude, don't go tellin' Incanis what I write. He might get wise and figure out I also helped write that thing with all the characters and the monsters at that one place with those guys. You remember. The one with all the stuff that happens.
GGG
Hmmmm...characters....monsters....a place with some guys...You're adapting The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe to a module? Like Dungeonland style?
"Santa, I want a vorpal sword for Christmas.""You can't have one. You'll put your eye out."
I can't wait.
I'll take the ecology and new stat blocks.
Just please get rid of the classed monsters and maps. That, and make sure the monsters don't take up so many pages!
Hmmmm...characters....monsters....a place with some guys...You're adapting The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe to a module? Like Dungeonland style?
"Santa, I want a vorpal sword for Christmas."
"You can't have one. You'll put your eye out."
I can't wait.
Damn! You figured it out!
(Over my shoulder to other readers) No laughing in the peanut gallery now.
GGG
Hmmmm...characters....monsters....a place with some guys...You're adapting The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe to a module?
DM: "You see forty-two beholders, an army of balors, and Kyuss, mounted on the tarrasque. They all want to kill you."
Player: "My character is 1st level and 8 years old, but he worships Pelor."DM: "All the monsters instantly die when you look at them."
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Hmmmm...characters....monsters....a place with some guys...You're adapting The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe to a module?DM: "You see forty-two beholders, an army of balors, and Kyuss, mounted on the tarrasque. They all want to kill you."
Player: "My character is 1st level and 8 years old, but he worships Pelor."
DM: "All the monsters instantly die when you look at them."
How many xp. is that?
How many xp. is that?
None. Everything in the universe is CR 0 if you worship the right god in Narnia. Your reward is that everyone else converts to the worship of Pelor, too, and then they pass a constitutional amendment outlawing human-elf marriages.
You gotta love the monster books, even if you already have 300 monsters you'll never use in a game who doesn't want to buy more?
I'd like to see about 75% original monsters and/or updates to 3.5 of monsters from earlier editions that haven't been handled yet.
I'd like not to see any spider/spider variants - we have tons of those already - Lolth must be so proud.
A few advanced monsters and their lackeys, perhaps in the form of a tribe, gang or other organization along with their lair and adventure ideas - ready to plug and play.
Some unique, Big Bad types. Something more than just a 20th level wizard or another demon lord like we have in Hordes of the Abyss/Dragon magazine articles. Again, something you can form a campaign around, or at least part of one.
L
I'd like not to see any spider/spider variants - we have tons of those already - Lolth must be so proud.
Word! There are already enough to make "arachniphobia" seem positively lacking in camparison.
One potentially cool idea would be a section on "reworked" monsters, like Mike Mearls is doing with the ogre mage, beholder, etc. on the WotC web site (I love his variant rust monsters, with the nastier bite and climb speeds!). Aside from that, I'm with Heathansson that a lot of "old school" monsters need new, re-inspired 3.5e versions (not the bloodless straight conversions that EN world does--not to denigrade the hard work they do, but if I'm going to shell out for a hardcover book, I want a new take on some of the critters).
I want a Brownie! Official non-website stats for the brownie!
And I second the Arumnovorax.
Anyone remember the space faring, weapon wielding, eye ray shooting gibbering mouther things from second edition?
Finally, I love you guys. You make me laugh after midnight. Will I become a gremilin?
You make me laugh after midnight. Will I become a gremilin?
Look at your avatar - you are a gremlin.
“Well, I do freelance for Wizards, but what I wrote hasn’t been officially announced yet, so I can’t talk about it.”Right, right... that's what I meant to say.
Heh heh... ahem...
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Ditto. :\