Multiple questions regarding pearl of power


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Pearl of Power: Once per Day on command, a pearl of power enables the possessor to recall any one spell that she had prepared and then cast that day. The spell is then prepared again, just as if it had not been cast. The spell must be of a particular level, depending on the pearl. Different pearls exist for recalling one spell per day of each level from 1st to 9th and for the recall of two spells per day (each of a different level, 6th or lower).

#1. What is the maximum of number of pearls of power a caster can use per spell level per spell slot?
Ex: Which is correct?
a)I have 4 spell slots at level 1, I am allowed one level 1 Pearl of Power.
b)I have 4 spell slots at level 1, I am allowed four level 1 Pearls of Power. One per spell slot.
c)I have 4 spell slots at level 1, I am allowed as many as I want level 1 Pearls of Power.

#2. Depending on the answer on #1; How many pearls of power can a caster use of one level? Ex. Can I use 2 level 1 Pearls of Power for 2 different level 1 spells, 1 spell per pearl?
Ex: I have "mage armor" and "sheild" memorized and use both. Can I recharge both spells each with a pearl of power; one for "mage armor", one for "sheild"?

#3. If I have multiple pearls of power, may I use a pearl of power to relearn a spell that has been relearned via another pearl of power?
Ex: I have one magic missile memorized of this day. I cast it that day and then relearn it via pearl of power lvl 1. If I cast magic missile from the pearl of power, may I use a 2nd pearl of power level 1 to relearn it again.


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I say:

sir_shajir wrote:
c)I have 4 spell slots at level 1, I am allowed as many as I want level 1 Pearls of Power.

If you spend the $ you can have (and use) as many as you like.

sir_shajir wrote:
#3. If I have multiple pearls of power, may I use a pearl of power to relearn a spell that has been relearned via another pearl of power?

I say yes, you can, as many times as you like, depending on how many pearls you own.

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Yeah, it's one of the more expensive items available. I'd go with using as many pearls as you have as well. The item doesn't suggest any limits.


Keep in mind the "command" in the description means a command word activation -- you need to be able to speak the word and use a standard action to activate it.


The answer to #1 is that you can use as many as you can afford.
For #3, Pearl of Power says it causes you re-prepare any spell you have already cast that day. So the way I would interpret it is that you can use as many Pearls on a single spell as you want, but you have to have empty spell slots to put the relearned spell into. For example: cast magic missile, cast mage armor, use a pearl to relearn magic missile, use a second pearl to relearn magic missile in the slot mage armor used to have. Then later on, when you cast one of those magic missiles and free up a spell slot, you could use a third pearl of power to relearn it again or bring back mage armor.

Scarab Sages

I guess I'm the odd man out. I rule that the Pearl of Power is only valid for a single spell of a particular level and two PoP of the same level counteract each other (sort of like wearing too many rings at once).

My rationale for this is the fact that a PoP exists that specifically allows two spells of levels equal or lower than 6th. The PoP that can recall two spells has a premium of +9k gp beyond the price of a 6th + 5th level PoP.

My justification for the increased price is that a spellcaster could only use one of each level of PoP, so this last one that allowed two spell slots to be refilled was priced higher.

(It's also possible that the higher price was for the flexibility of having two spell slots of various levels that were not defined ahead of time.)

To keep the abuse of 1st level PoP to a minimum, I'm going to keep my original ruling. (Otherwise there are a lot of magic missiles flying around from high-level casters who have a dozen 1st level PoP.)

If nothing else, they have a CL 17 so there aren't going to be many of them in the first place...


azhrei_fje wrote:


To keep the abuse of 1st level PoP to a minimum, I'm going to keep my original ruling. (Otherwise there are a lot of magic missiles flying around from high-level casters who have a dozen 1st level PoP.)

And what would be the problem with that? A wand of magic missile is a whole lot cheaper and does the same thing ;-)

an item enabling you to use a lvl 1 effect once a day which you already cast for 1000gp. Reasonably priced and not abusable imho. There's better things to buy.


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Funkytrip wrote:
azhrei_fje wrote:


To keep the abuse of 1st level PoP to a minimum, I'm going to keep my original ruling. (Otherwise there are a lot of magic missiles flying around from high-level casters who have a dozen 1st level PoP.)

And what would be the problem with that? A wand of magic missile is a whole lot cheaper and does the same thing ;-)

an item enabling you to use a lvl 1 effect once a day which you already cast for 1000gp. Reasonably priced and not abusable imho. There's better things to buy.

Agreed. If the concern is repeatable spells there are far cheaper ways of accomplishing it.


jreyst wrote:
Funkytrip wrote:
azhrei_fje wrote:


To keep the abuse of 1st level PoP to a minimum, I'm going to keep my original ruling. (Otherwise there are a lot of magic missiles flying around from high-level casters who have a dozen 1st level PoP.)

And what would be the problem with that? A wand of magic missile is a whole lot cheaper and does the same thing ;-)

an item enabling you to use a lvl 1 effect once a day which you already cast for 1000gp. Reasonably priced and not abusable imho. There's better things to buy.

Agreed. If the concern is repeatable spells there are far cheaper ways of accomplishing it.

Also agreed. Pearls of power are not strictly cost effective on the whole. There is no reason to further penalize them. Further, I see no issue with a high level caster wasting actions throwing around magic missiles (or other 1st - 3rd level spells).

Sovereign Court

Peter Stewart wrote:
jreyst wrote:
Funkytrip wrote:
azhrei_fje wrote:


To keep the abuse of 1st level PoP to a minimum, I'm going to keep my original ruling. (Otherwise there are a lot of magic missiles flying around from high-level casters who have a dozen 1st level PoP.)

And what would be the problem with that? A wand of magic missile is a whole lot cheaper and does the same thing ;-)

an item enabling you to use a lvl 1 effect once a day which you already cast for 1000gp. Reasonably priced and not abusable imho. There's better things to buy.

Agreed. If the concern is repeatable spells there are far cheaper ways of accomplishing it.
Also agreed. Pearls of power are not strictly cost effective on the whole. There is no reason to further penalize them. Further, I see no issue with a high level caster wasting actions throwing around magic missiles (or other 1st - 3rd level spells).

I'm going to disagree with this. There is a huge difference between a numpty running around with a wand of magic missiles, and a higher level caster with multiple pearls.

As a DM, I find the idea that a spellcaster can literally double, if not more, their spell repotoire with the only drawback being that they extra spells are the same as the first, very disconcerting. I'm letting the pearls play unlimited for now, but they are ripe for player abuse and are close to being on the end of a giant personal ban-hammer.


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Pearl of Power (1st level) costs 1000gp and essentially allows you to cast one 1st level spell (at your caster level) 1 time per day.

Let's assume a 9th level caster (so he has max magic missiles).

Wand of Magic Missile created at caster level 9th costs 6750gp and essentially allows you to cast one 1st level spell up to 50 times in one day (and total).

If we assume minimum caster level of 5th, then the wand would only cost 3750gp.

I'm thinking I'd much rather have something I can use up to 50 times in one day for between 3-6k than something I could use one time in one day for 1000gp.

However, as always, its your campaign so have at it, do as thou wilt :)


I don't think they're broken at all. Only the 1st level ones are reasonably priced, and by the time a caster can afford many of those they're well on to the point where 1st level spells don't decide that much.

I mean, I can have a wand of 2nd level spells for about the same price (4000gp) as a 2nd level pearl of power. Or, instead of that single 2nd level pearl of power I could have a +2 stat booster for my primary stat. An easy choice!

Ken


Don't forget that while a caster with magic missile memorized and 9 PoP can cast MM 10 times, he or she can only do so over 20 rds. Each 'rememorization' takes a standard action to activate, and the spell has to be cast normally. Not really seeing the potential for abuse here.


Just for the sake of posting...

IF the wizard in question buys up the +6 intelligence headband and the +5 tome of Intellect at level 20 and then simply buys pearls of power he can get:
1 x 9th level
1 x 8th level
3 x 7th level
3 x 6th level
5 x 5th level
5 x 4th level
7 x 3rd level
7 x 2nd level
9 x 1st level

Total. That would eat up almost all his wealth however, and each time he wants to reuse a spell slot he would need a standard action.


I dont see a problem, just keep in mind they are use activated (standard action), and can only replace a previously expended spell.

That isn't much flexibility to use them really, certainly not overpowered at that cost.

Dark Archive

New guy question. So would a Pearl of Power be useful to a sorcerer? He doesn't prepare spells like a wizard, so it doesn't appear that it would.

Sovereign Court

No use whatsoever. It's one of the arguing points about how not all magic items are equally useful to all characters, since PoPs are useless to spontaneous casters (among other things).

Dark Archive

Twowlves wrote:


No use whatsoever. It's one of the arguing points about how not all magic items are equally useful to all characters, since PoPs are useless to spontaneous casters (among other things).

Thanks for clarifying that. I just made the assumption that it worked for any caster before I read this thread.

Grand Lodge

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MoFiddy wrote:
Twowlves wrote:


No use whatsoever. It's one of the arguing points about how not all magic items are equally useful to all characters, since PoPs are useless to spontaneous casters (among other things).

Thanks for clarifying that. I just made the assumption that it worked for any caster before I read this thread.

It would be equally useless for a Bard or Oracle. It only brings back PREPARED spells which leaves it out of the spontaneous domain entirely.

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Another pearl of power question.

A specialist wizard in Pathfinder can prepare spells of her opposed school, but those spells take up two spell slots.

Do you think that a pearl of power can allow her to recast such a spell, as simply as if it were not in her opposed school?


In response to: "A specialist wizard in Pathfinder can prepare spells of her opposed school, but those spells take up two spell slots. Do you think that a pearl of power can allow her to recast such a spell, as simply as if it were not in her opposed school?"

My first instinct, I would say no, do not allow this: I see it that you are refilling slots you had filled to begin with, and should follow the same rules refilling as originally filling.

Allowing this would open the door to not needing to follow the opposed-school prohibition, which is already generous in PF compared to previous versions.

--Carpjay


Chris Mortika wrote:

Another pearl of power question.

A specialist wizard in Pathfinder can prepare spells of her opposed school, but those spells take up two spell slots.

Do you think that a pearl of power can allow her to recast such a spell, as simply as if it were not in her opposed school?

Yes. Remember, tho, that the PoP does not "cast the spell." It allows rememorization of the spell. A subtle, but important difference.

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