Uhm... yes. Yes, I am the DM of the rant thread. (Looks around suspiciously) All posters bow before me!
Saern Saern Saern Saern Saern. Wow, you're right!
No! Everyone is going to start as commoners and then work their way into their first PC level! And we're not playing in any of that established-setting crap. In this world, orcs are pink and elves can fly on Tuesdays!
See what you started, Ace? Ah, the irony!
No! Everyone is going to start as commoners and then work their way into their first PC level! And we're not playing in any of that established-setting crap. In this world, orcs are pink and elves can fly on Tuesdays!
See what you started, Ace? Ah, the irony!
On real world Tuesdays or on Tuesdays in the game world? What is the calendar like? How many days are there in the week? What or who is Tuesday named after? Is it a god? Can I be a cleric of Tues? If I play an elf cleric of Tues, is every day Tuesday for him?
On real world Tuesdays or on Tuesdays in the game world? What is the calendar like? How many days are there in the week? What or who is Tuesday named after? Is it a god? Can I be a cleric of Tues? If I play an elf cleric of Tues, is every day Tuesday for him?No! Everyone is going to start as commoners and then work their way into their first PC level! And we're not playing in any of that established-setting crap. In this world, orcs are pink and elves can fly on Tuesdays!
See what you started, Ace? Ah, the irony!
Tuesday is Tyrsday... name after the Norse Tyr, mentioned a page back in this thread by Vatnisse. Loki's lupen son bit off Tyr's hand when Tyr tried slipping a chain around the brat's neck. Dogs like that should have their teeth filed down.
Wednesday is Wodensday, named after Woden aka Wotan aka Odin.\
Edit: I just found this list:
SunDay
MoonDay
TyrsDay
WodensDay
ThorsDay
FreyasDay
SaturnsDay
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Rant:I quite agree...and this thread should be split into several more threads than just two. While it is interesting to read in-depth discussions about democracy in the middle east or individual relationship problems, this thread has been seriously hijacked from the origional intent. A good one, by the way, initiated by Saren. It is frustrating to consistently come back to read this thread in the hopes of reading genuine grievences and instead find pages upon pages of off-topic discussion and side conversations. Not to mention the 1,000 poster crap. Perhaps i am wrong in this assessment, but my impression of message board etiquette suggests that these kind of discussions appear either in spinoff threads or in private conversations.
Rant over.
Carry on with off-topic discussions.
As ever,
ACE
Two words: Anal Retentive.
I think that a thread should be about what the posters and the thread creators want it to be about. To be a good thread creator, one should tailor the thread to the abilities and interests of the posters. Those who create a dictatorial thread don't really understand what messageboards are really about. The thread experience is a cooperative shared experience, and the input of the posters is as important as the input of the thread creator. A shared mode of posting is the important element.
And, after all, threads are all about having fun.
Mister DM sir....Can I play a warforged Artificer with adamantium armor after you make me be a commoner?
Just for the enjoyment of HardKore...
On real world Tuesdays or on Tuesdays in the game world? What is the calendar like? How many days are there in the week? What or who is Tuesday named after? Is it a god? Can I be a cleric of Tues? If I play an elf cleric of Tues, is every day Tuesday for him?No! Everyone is going to start as commoners and then work their way into their first PC level! And we're not playing in any of that established-setting crap. In this world, orcs are pink and elves can fly on Tuesdays!
See what you started, Ace? Ah, the irony!
Tuesday is Tyrsday... name after the Norse Tyr, mentioned a page back in this thread by Vatnisse. Loki's lupen son bit off Tyr's hand when Tyr tried slipping a chain around the brat's neck. Dogs like that should have their teeth filed down.
Wednesday is Wodensday, named after Woden aka Wotan aka Odin.\
Edit: I just found this list:
SunDay
MoonDay
TyrsDay
WodensDay
ThorsDay
FreyasDay
SaturnsDay
So Saern is using a version of the Germanic version of the Norse (take on the Indo-European) pantheon (with some random Roman god thrown in and a bit of animism)! Are there more days of the week? Kvasirday, Braggiday, Idunsday, Heimdallday, Sifday?
Shouldn't elves be able to fly on Friday then? Frey & Freya (and the Vanir) were all pretty freindly with the alfs of Alfheim after all.
So Saern is using a version of the Germanic version of the Norse (take on the Indo-European) pantheon (with some random Roman god thrown in and a bit of animism)! Are there more days of the week? Kvasirday, Braggiday, Idunsday, Heimdallday, Sifday?Shouldn't elves be able to fly on Friday then? Frey & Freya (and the Vanir) were all pretty freindly with the alfs of Alfheim after all.
No arguing with that logic. Elves really should fly on Friday. It's all up to the great and powerful Saern though. I warn you... petition this change meekly, as his enourmous maw has a taste for smart heads.
It took that long to find out?
I would like to propose:
SusanDey
GladysDay
OtisDay
BillieHolliday
and DanielDay
Lewis
How is it we've not two more celebrities to fill out the week?! This is !
::sobs::
I'm learning to liiiiiiiiiiiiiiive without you now...
but it still hurts sometimes, baby...
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No! Everyone is going to start as commoners and then work their way into their first PC level! And we're not playing in any of that established-setting crap. In this world, orcs are pink and elves can fly on Tuesdays!
About those orcs, what shade of pink are they going to be (i.e. hot pink, pepto pink, etc.)? And since I have to start off as a commoner, does that mean I have to work my way into the zombie template, or can I start off as a common zombie?
It took that long to find out?
But he found out.
The orcs will be Pepto pink, and drink that fluid in place of ale. You can start as a zombie, but only if you accept not leveling up until everyone else reaches third level because of the adjustment. I'm using OotS pantheons, so that's why the days have the same names. The first campaign will be about the rise of the cult of Banjo! And elves still fly on Teusdays. God, you guys are cramping all my artistic stylismishnessically. :)
*shuffles feet*
ummm....sir? Mr. DM? Can I be Banjo?
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On real world Tuesdays or on Tuesdays in the game world? What is the calendar like? How many days are there in the week? What or who is Tuesday named after? Is it a god? Can I be a cleric of Tues? If I play an elf cleric of Tues, is every day Tuesday for him?No! Everyone is going to start as commoners and then work their way into their first PC level! And we're not playing in any of that established-setting crap. In this world, orcs are pink and elves can fly on Tuesdays!
See what you started, Ace? Ah, the irony!
Tuesday is Tyrsday... name after the Norse Tyr, mentioned a page back in this thread by Vatnisse. Loki's lupen son bit off Tyr's hand when Tyr tried slipping a chain around the brat's neck. Dogs like that should have their teeth filed down.
Wednesday is Wodensday, named after Woden aka Wotan aka Odin.\
Edit: I just found this list:
SunDay
MoonDay
TyrsDay
WodensDay
ThorsDay
FreyasDay
SaturnsDay
So Saern is using a version of the Germanic version of the Norse (take on the Indo-European) pantheon (with some random Roman god thrown in and a bit of animism)! Are there more days of the week? Kvasirday, Braggiday, Idunsday, Heimdallday, Sifday?
Shouldn't elves be able to fly on Friday then? Frey & Freya (and the Vanir) were all pretty freindly with the alfs of Alfheim after all.
The mystery becomes somewhat thicker when considering that the Scandinavian names for the days of the week are (starting on Monday):
mandag
tirsdag
onsdag
torsdag
fredag
lørdag
søndag
I still have no idea where "lørdag" actually comes from, and it makes even less sense than SaturnsDay. I do like the sound of Braggiday, though; unfortunately, it does not exist yet. However, it might after Ragnarok.
AS a side note on Tyr and the great wolf, Fenris only let the chain (forged out of things like women's beards and fish breath) be slipped around his neck if Tyr would vouch for it being safe by putting his hand in the wolf's jaws. When the gods then pulled the chain shut, CHOMP! Bad doggie...
See what you started, Ace? Ah, the irony!
Rant:
One literary theory suggests that a story never begins nor does it end. The binding of a book and the pages of words between covers encapsulates one piece of a larger story that, in turn, is a piece of an even larger one...etc. This thread, all of these threads, are slices of our collective and shared experiences through time. Sitting here, typing at my computer, I am continuing that story by sharing this with all of you...and it will continue long, LONG after we are all no longer actively creating in that collective story.Like any chapter in any story, there are certain elements that give it personal meaning to those who are actively experiencing other's contributions. Some of these are more powerful than others and this thread seems to me to be a portal for generating those powerful topics. For example here, the Democracy in Middle East, or one gentleman's personal history with his ex. Very powerful - do they deserve their own chapter? I would suggest so. They deserve their own threads - perhaps this is an appropriate forum for those threads, perhaps not. I would submit that these are the questions we should all be asking ourselves when we choose to actively participate in a community forum such as this one. (Kudos to Paizo for creating such a medium)
Of course, these are my druthers, and as many have pointed out in the past, i'm just a conceited, pompus, high-horse riding, windbag to post the subjects that i find interesting and germane to these boards. I like to think that I speak to some folks who either actively participate or lurk on these boards and hope springs eternal that rhetoric can actively inact change in one's point of perspective.
Ranting will continue to preserve the generation of interesting and powerful discussion - however it is presented. Rant on to all.
End Rant
As ever,
ACE
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Like any chapter in any story, there are certain elements that give it personal meaning to those who are actively experiencing other's contributions. Some of these are more powerful than others and this thread seems to me to be a portal for generating those powerful topics. For example here, the Democracy in Middle East, or one gentleman's personal history with his ex. Very powerful - do they deserve their own chapter? I would suggest so. They deserve their own threads - perhaps this is an appropriate forum for those threads, perhaps not. I would submit that these are the questions we should all be asking ourselves when we choose to actively participate in a community forum such as this one. (Kudos to Paizo for creating such a medium)
Using the book analogy, I would say that they don't deserve an individual chapter in this particular story. This story is about gaming, particularly about D&D. A chapter about democracy doesn't really belong (unless you're discussing governments in game worlds) nor does a chapter about current political events. I come here primarily to talk about D&D, and incidentally to talk about other crap because I consider the other members of these boards to be a community that I like.
Of course, these are my druthers, and as many have pointed out in the past, i'm just a conceited, pompus, high-horse riding, windbag to post the subjects that i find interesting and germane to these boards. I like to think that I speak to some folks who either actively participate or lurk on these boards and hope springs eternal that rhetoric can actively inact change in one's point of perspective.
Perhaps it is not your topics, but the manner in which you present them, that fails to cause a change in perspective. I can't help but read your posts with an English accent and picture a fussy aristocrat in a smoking jacket attempting to disdainfully explain to a group of kids the influences of Hamlet on the Pokemon cartoon.
Or, maybe we have thought carefully and long about our perspectives and our satisfied with them. Your posts always seem to assume that there is a correct perspective, and by golly if you aren't going to try and communicate it to us poor uneducated savages.
Mister DM sir....Can I play a warforged Artificer with adamantium armor after you make me be a commoner?
Just for the enjoyment of HardKore...
For the record screw warforged and all things Eberron.
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I can't help but read your posts with an English accent and picture a fussy aristocrat in a smoking jacket attempting to disdainfully explain to a group of kids the influences of Hamlet on the Pokemon cartoon.Is there something wrong with an English accent? Huh, punk?
On females of the species, it's hotter than a $2 pistol.
On females of the species, it's hotter than a $2 pistol.I can't help but read your posts with an English accent and picture a fussy aristocrat in a smoking jacket attempting to disdainfully explain to a group of kids the influences of Hamlet on the Pokemon cartoon.Is there something wrong with an English accent? Huh, punk?
Actually, when I slip on one of my English accents (I have a distinct few) it usually makes women weak at the knees. Either that or my celebration-of-all-things-garlic dumpster breath and my DR. HYPNO swirly glasses. Eh, I'll choose to believe the prior. I'm irresistable.
I HATE THAT YOU GUYS haven't seen Vic's home theater. OMG.
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I can't help but read your posts with an English accent and picture a fussy aristocrat in a smoking jacket attempting to disdainfully explain to a group of kids the influences of Hamlet on the Pokemon cartoon.Is there something wrong with an English accent? Huh, punk?
...well...um...
No, English accents are generally cool. Its just that an English accent is a common feature of a certain type of fussy talk-down-to-you type character.
Now Australian accents are another story. They're okay on men, but on women...
Whereas a southern or french accent is inherently sexy, an australian accent is like the unibrow of vocal affectations. I can't stand to watch an actress like Nicole Kidman on talk shows because when she talks it completely ruins her looks.
Sorry Aussies. Same goes for New Yorkers if it makes you feel better.
(I think I'll shut up now.)
I HATE THAT YOU GUYS haven't seen Vic's home theater. OMG.
No kidding!!
Whereas a southern or french accent is inherently sexy, an australian accent is like the unibrow of vocal affectations.
Sorry Aussies. Same goes for New Yorkers if it makes you feel better.
The unibrow of vocal affections? That is now my favorite observation ever. You can't put a price on a line like that.
I live in New York and I DO NOT find NY accents the least bit attractive. A woman trying to get my notice with her best Barbarino imitation just ain't gonna cut it. I'm quite taken now so there will be no cutting of it, but if there was... that wouldn't.
It's some of the folks in The Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, and Long Island that have the thicker accents. Dunno about Staten Island.
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Whereas a southern or french accent is inherently sexy, an australian accent is like the unibrow of vocal affectations. I can't stand to watch an actress like Nicole Kidman on talk shows because when she talks it completely ruins her looks.
Sorry Aussies. Same goes for New Yorkers if it makes you feel better.
(I think I'll shut up now.)
::hands Sebastian a shovel::
No, no, keep digging. You'll be able to fit comfortably in that hole before long.
I KNEW IT! Fatespinner IS Nicole Kidman!
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i HATE that i just watched an hour of Dateline that was titled "food fight; the war on obesity" or somesuch nonsense.
apparently, lots of people are complaining about something in common: they are obese.
of course, being americans (like myself), they are not to blame. no, the people who SOLD them those hamburgers, large fries, Cokes, Oreos, Cinnamon Toast Crunch and whole milk are to blame.
one nut job went so far as to say "i do not think there should be laws to prevent any adult from eating anything he'd like. i DO think there should be warning labels on McDonald's that read "Eating fast food can lead to obesity and increase your risk of heart disease."
upon questioning the conclusion of this slippery-slope stupidity, his response was that "any legislative action, taken to illogical ends becomes silly"
not sure if that's his exact words, but i am tempted to get a transcript of the show just to track this punk down...
now: the corrolaries (and unstated prejudices/invalidating data) of this ridiculous program.
1: fat people are NOT fat because they are genetically predisposed to it, overeat, make poor dietary choices, and/or do not exercise enough. they are fat because they eat fast food and junk food.
2: the people selling said foods (in 1) are responsible for the eaters of their products well-being and general health. this must be obvious, if you can sue McDonald's for "making me obese" as 2 girls did in 2002.
3: it is NOT the personal responsibility of consumers to decide what to eat, or how much to eat. by extension, it is not a parent's responsibility to decide what their child eats/how much.
4: children must be protected from junk food, fast food, and marketing of said products through law. no other means will suffice.
5: monetary awards are in order for the "victims" of the "fast-food-conspiracy"
ARGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
when did we become so frelling stupid? when did we abdicate our personal responsibility over WHAT WE PUT IN OUR BODIES to advertising firms and food suppliers?
other irritating tidbits from this program:
apparently, cocaine stimulates the brain in certain, specific patterns, which coorespond to our "pleasure/satisfaction" receptors.
(facetious acceptance of their assumptions)
overeaters' brain chemistry is ALSO stimulated by the application of their desired foods. (surprising, no?)
NOTE: these were the ONLY factors being tested on the show. sex, fear, non-food-smells, other drugs, avoidance of pain, NONE of the other preprogrammed monkey-brain parts of us were being tested/analyzed.
just overeaters' brain chemistry with regards to pleasure/satisfaction (via PET scanning), and the same with cocaine intake. (assumed to be stock footage, since coke is expensive and a schedule 2 narcotic, meaning NBC is NOT going to be testing it on their interns.)
conclusion from the above pseudo-science-mumbo-jumbo-BS: food is addictive, and food addicts exist.
because non-addicts DIE of malnutrition (or get movies made of them and their non-violent ways), i'm gonna go ahead and call the BS flag on that. addicted to food? next thing you know, there's gonna be H2O junkies and oxygen-fiends.
finally, they sourced "Reefer Madness" when starting to talk about food addiction in general.
Reefer Madness? that William Randolph Hearst wannabe piece of trash, so bad and WRONG in its basic assumptions as to promote outright lies and disinformation? c'mon, NBC, lets be real for a second here...you just wanted to use the line "a burger won't make you do this" while some poor schmoe whacks someone with a cane.
damn, we're a country of maladjusted, whiney, lazy, sue-happy, bad-food-eating pigs. and when the inquisition comes with their jackboots and citizen vanishing vans, we'll all be too fat and happy with our litiginous gains, we won't even try to stop them.
-the hamster :(
It's all so crazy.
"Boo hoo! I'm a victim of deliciousness!" --Wondershowzen
You mentioned that fat people are fat because they eat fast food and junk food but I think the record shows that obese folks existed long before the existence of Arby's and Pringles. Though fast and junk foods certainly don't help matters and they explain the sharp increase in XXXXXXXL sales.
No frilling kidding!!!! I can never get coolshirts because they never have mediums or smalls and I refuse to wear a tent. (6' 140lbs)
I'm a large (6'2 190) and I rarely have a problem stocking the closet but I find there are less Ls available than XL XXL and XXLs. So every time I find a shirt I like it's either the last or the second to last left. I'm not sure I've even seen a medium or small sized anything in the last three years. You must have a time of it.
On a similar rant...and I may have ranted about this before...
Why is it just because I'm not the size of a beanpole I can't find decent, attractive, well-fitting clothing for women who have all those attributes men find attractive?!?!
Grr...
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As far as T-shirts go, I end up wearing plain single color 3-to-a-pack type of shirts. Or a buncha my old stuff that I wore 10-15 years ago. Can't beat well worn 100% cotton.
*to qualify as rant*
I HATE all the cloaker-like T-shirts that copiously habitate on the orchards of clothes racks, which forces me to forage the boughs like an obsessive-compulsive peach farmer trying to locate the perfect cobbler ingredient.
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On a similar rant...and I may have ranted about this before...
Why is it just because I'm not the size of a beanpole I can't find decent, attractive, well-fitting clothing for women who have all those attributes men find attractive?!?!
Grr...
That's the rub. I've got me a 5' tall, non-waifish wife who has the same problem. Clothes are not made for all shapes of people these days. Then again, not too long ago, people just made their clothes and buying anything other than a nice "Sunday" set of clothes was almost unheard of outside of the middle to upper class. Luckily I came from a low class family that learnt me to sew.
The rest of your rant can be summarized my our lovely media. Waifish women were not viewed as widely attractive unitl the late 60's. I recently read an article that noted that eating disorders were non-existant on Fiji until they somewhat recently got global cable/satellite television. In three years of "global" communication, eating disorders and self-image issues increased by over 300%.
mighty thews rippling with a fierce, primal fury
Heathansson's a Conan fan!!!
Daigle, you may want to point your wife to Torrid - very nice clothing, prices aren't bad.
I'd sew myself, but I have all the sewing skills of a five year old. I'm trying to get better at it, though. :)
Still Iran's recent elections were not rigged. Their leader is a real expression of the will of the people.
Not rigged? The mullahs banned half of the parliamentary candidates - funnily enough, those in favour of greater democracy and accountability. Not rigged?
Not exactly what you or I might consider an ideal democracy but still a reflection of the will of the people.
59% voter turnout is not at all bad. The Reform Movement was admittedly hampered in that they went with a 'safe' but uninspiring candidate to make sure the Mullahs did not exercise their veto. Still the two previous Reform terms substantially failed and the Reform Movement was already somewhat on the ropes.
Back that with scandals in the previous Reform government and an air of corruption that had many of the voters feeling that Reform equals elites stuff their pockets full of money and manages to implement little else of substance, and the voters are beginning to look elseware.
Top it all off with a feeling among many in Iran that the western world is singling them out for a thrashing, thus any true patriot who loves his country should be getting on the anti-America anti-west bandwagon and the voters fall in line behind a charismatic and populist leader. Spurning both the Reform Movement and its supposed Conservative foes in favor of a third option.
Unfortunately for us the guy is also anti-west. Our media was mostly asleep at the wheel as well. The whole result came as something of a shock. However if you had been reading the papers in Arabic from other countries in the Middle East it was apparently clear a few days before everything was final what was taking place - or so I've been told.
Anyway sounds like a basically accurate reflection of the will of the people to me. The guy got a whopping 62% of the vote on 59% voter turn out. I doubt a couple of extra Reform candidates could have overcome those kinds of numbers even if the Mullahs had not vetoed their participation.
Perhaps i am wrong in this assessment, but my impression of message board etiquette suggests that these kind of discussions appear either in spinoff threads or in private conversations.
Such etiquette, in my experience, is decided pretty much of a board by board basis. I have certainly been part of message boards where threads where almost encouraged to mutate into whatever it is the posters want to babble on about.
Each style has benefits and weak points. In a clear on topic forum (which this one is 80% of the time) one pretty much always knows what their getting when they open a thread, and the threads themselves are usually fairly short. Everyone has his or her say on whatever the topic is and then the thread dies.
The rambling version makes finding specific information hard and means that the original point of a thread has often changed into something else – often changing repeatedly over the course of its (often long) life. On the other hand it increases the amount of activity on the message board itself as people pipe up on each topic in turn as it emerges and of course don't hesitate to go off on some side tangent that one or more posters might be interested in exploring. Of course there is also more danger of the topic being explored not being considered an appropriate topic for the board in general.
Which is best all depends on what one wants more. More focus or more activity?
I think part of what is happening is we are seeing something of a shift (though not a dramatic one). As the reguler posters get more familier with each other they also become interested in both expressing their views on none game related topics and in reading the others opinions about non game related topics. This is exaberated by the fact that long time posters have already covered a great many of the big topics. Arguing about Munchkinism or Alignment has mostly lost its lustre. I already know where many of the regulars stand in these regards. Why cover the same ground yet again? Hence regulars are more likely to be distracted by other debates of interest to them - even if their not D&D related.