Pathfinder Adventure Path #149: Against the Scarlet Triad (Age of Ashes 5 of 6)

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Pathfinder Adventure Path #149: Against the Scarlet Triad (Age of Ashes 5 of 6)

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The Scarlet Triad’s Last Stand

The slavers known as the Scarlet Triad have been defeated twice before, and now the time has come for the heroes to confront them in their stronghold in the sprawling city of Katapesh. But the Triad still enjoys the support of the city's government; before the organization can be destroyed, the PCs will need to undermine the Triad's reputation, a task requiring guile, force of arms, and luck. The Age of Ashes Adventure Path continues with “Against the Scarlet Triad,” a complete adventure for 15th- to 17th-level characters.

ISBN: 978-1-64078-194-8

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Trying to be short again

4/5

So let's see if I succeed at being short: I like the adventure a lot, it has return of many cool things(such as variant monsters like dust wendigos!), it has lots of different things PCs can do to convince guilds to vote agaisnt scarlet tried(like a heist and for example finding a magic camel) and provides a lot of roleplaying opportunities. Did I mentioned that vast majority of art in Age of Ashes is super great? Well if I didn't, I did now. I do feel like red pyramid's first and second floor map somehow feels less fancy than other maps(even when compared to basement) in the book or ap but can't figure out why.

I like the AP's overall "here is which ancestry you help in this book!" theme, but gnome ancestry comes least through in all of those books. Like sure, you help gnomes in Finderplain from super powerful monster(btw, it is cool to show case how powerful monster could wipe out entire settlement if they wanted to without powerful heroes to rescue! Also I like in general this book show cases lot of sidequest like tasks that high level characters get up to) and first guild leader you can help and ally with is gnome, but otherwise adventure isn't really tied thematically with gnome stuff. Though book does high light the weirdness of high level guard npcs, it still did good job with establishing that even high level characters wouldn't wipe out capital of nation by themselves.

But yeah, cool stuff, but still have to dock one star for kinda noticiable editing weirdness and because I think book could have been even better.

So what random stuff I did like... Well besides heist(and alternate solutions during it and obstacles and random steel falcon cameos), student loan! Lobbying!(I think I mentioned that already, but had to mention me liking downtime/exploration/similar stuff a lot) Bird in a box! Possibility to become guild leader! Speak with plants being taken in account! Not gonna say any more in detail!

Oh yeah and bonus articles on witchwyrd and aiudara were great. Also huh, we got the backstory curse reveal of that fay from reign of winter, its always neat when "mysterious curse from so long ago nobody remembers why" stuff gets answered :D


A big stumble

2/5

This book seems neat, but it is just deja vu for those of us who've played the 3rd book of Legacy of Fire. While other adventure paths that take place between 15-17 have the PCs transported to alternate planes, different timelines, through axiomatic gardens or freeing countries from oppression, this AP is about rubbing elbows with nobles to get permission to kill some guys in a pyramid.

While some of the tasks you undertake are very cool, and some of the encounters are magnificent, the book keeps routing you back to things that underwhelm. For every truly 16th level thing you do, you're ushered back to fighting clerks in office rooms, or battling giant insects-- you do that twice-- or worst, trying to get the leader of a slaver's guild to give you permission to kill the other leader of a slaver's guild... a real treat for the Liberator champions who heard "the anti-slavery AP".

Not a big fan.


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Ya know, its kinda nice they are returning to Katapesh :'D The city was never really explored after Legacy of Fire, and that ap didn't get hardcover update... (I actually wanna play that one even though everyone nowadays cares only about kingmaker or second darkess updates)

Scarab Sages

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Sounds like this adventure is the one that focuses on humanity. Is that right?

Paizo Employee Organized Play Lead Developer

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logic_poet wrote:
Sounds like this adventure is the one that focuses on humanity. Is that right?

It's a solid theory. I can at least say that the adventure includes many humans and a whole lot of other fun stuff.

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Aha, James noted afterward in a different thread what this volumes ancestry “theme” is.

Spoiler:

Each if the volumes had one of the Core Rulebook ancestries as a thematic inspiration—not a “Thou shalt use naught but these creatures” but rather a “This adventure deals with an area with many of these people, so be sure to incorporate several of them and play with their ancestral themes” idea. #149 is associated with gnomes, which is one reason why I’m the author for the volume; I find gnomes pretty dang cool. Katapesh was also the first region I became excited about in the Pathfinder setting, so this project’s been really fulfilling to work on.


I always wanted to know more about the Red Pyramid and any ties it might have to ancient Osirion.

Grand Lodge

Will this volume have a full article/gazetteer on Katapesh?


W E Ray wrote:
Will this volume have a full article/gazetteer on Katapesh?

Judging from the current product description, the answer seems to be no.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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W E Ray wrote:
Will this volume have a full article/gazetteer on Katapesh?

Nope. We did an entire book on Katapesh, and it remains fully usable from the flavor side of things if you want to expand on this adventure though.

Dark Archive

The cover resolution leaves much to be desired.
I can't even make out the creature that Valeros & Seoni are fighting.

Dark Archive

When did this one get updated? O_o;

Scarab Sages

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Which NPCs will be detailed on the inside back cover of this?

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logic_poet wrote:
Which NPCs will be detailed on the inside back cover of this?

Crink Twiddleton and Trinil Uskwold


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John Compton wrote:

Aha, James noted afterward in a different thread what this volumes ancestry “theme” is.

** spoiler omitted **

Oh neat!

related spoiler question:

Does this build perhaps on the Yavipho gnomes from Gnomes of Golarion in northern Katapesh? They only had a short blurb, but they stuck in my head all these years because they were intriguing.

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Phaedre wrote:
John Compton wrote:

Aha, James noted afterward in a different thread what this volumes ancestry “theme” is.

** spoiler omitted **

Oh neat!

** spoiler omitted **

It does not.

Dark Archive

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Anyone have there subscriber Pdf copies of this yet?


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I haven't received the order confirmation, let alone the shipping confirmation.


When subscribers start getting their copies, I'd love to know what support articles are in this one.


James Jacobs wrote:
W E Ray wrote:
Will this volume have a full article/gazetteer on Katapesh?
Nope. We did an entire book on Katapesh, and it remains fully usable from the flavor side of things if you want to expand on this adventure though.

Dark Markets remains one of my favorite PF books. Big recommendation.


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Valantrix1 wrote:
When subscribers start getting their copies, I'd love to know what support articles are in this one.

Support Articles:

Ecology of the Witchwyrd (Information on the four-armed alien merchants)
Lost Aiudara (broken or missing elf gates)
Adventure Toolbox: Katapesh Items (stuff that can be purchased in Katapesh)
. Katapesh Poisoners (Rogue, Druid, and Alchemist Feats (one each) plus poisons of Katapesh)
. Katapesh Companions (Camel and Vulture as Animal Companions)
. Zephyr Guard Archetype (Self-explanatory)
. Bestiary
. NPC Stats


So... What's in the Bestiary article?

Please & thank you.

--C.


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Psiphyre wrote:

So... What's in the Bestiary article?

Please & thank you.

--C.

Bestiary:

Aluum
Calikang
Daemon, Crucidaemon
Demon, Nalfeshnee
Devil, Cornugon
Immortal Ichor
Solifugid
Witchwyrd
Xotanispawn


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Thanks Feros! I guessed right on a couple of those articles and monsters.


James Jacobs wrote:
W E Ray wrote:
Will this volume have a full article/gazetteer on Katapesh?
Nope. We did an entire book on Katapesh, and it remains fully usable from the flavor side of things if you want to expand on this adventure though.

So where would one look for this information should they have only recently jumped into pathfinder?


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Lumblehumberjack wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
W E Ray wrote:
Will this volume have a full article/gazetteer on Katapesh?
Nope. We did an entire book on Katapesh, and it remains fully usable from the flavor side of things if you want to expand on this adventure though.
So where would one look for this information should they have only recently jumped into pathfinder?

The book on Katapesh is Dark Markets: A Guide to Katapesh. It has maps and everything.

The info from the book is summarized on the Pathfinder Wiki, but it doesn't go into near as much detail.

Paizo Employee Starfinder Senior Developer

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For a great overview of the world setting, I recommend getting the Lost Omens World Guide. It’s the latest take on our setting, and it has about a page on Katapesh.

For a deep dive on Katapesh, one of the earliest Campaign Setting books was Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Dark Markets: A Guide to Katapesh. It’s a 64-page book that includes a map of Katapesh, a look at scores of sites in the city, and an overview of the surrounding territory.

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So I liked two previous issues, but found hard to comment on them. 3rd issue for the "investigate criminals and find them" premise is hard to comment on without playing it and 4th book since its mostly dwarven dungeon crawling where my favourite part was the dwarf focus simply because its refhresing to me because I have barely seen any dwarf ruin adventures.

This book on otherhand :O Definitely gonna review it, it has so much school stuff returning in it as well

such as:
It has Dust Wendigo in it! And Immortal Ichors! Xotanispawn is cool new thing. Oh hey and all the delicious new witchwyrd lore that actually makes them more interesting to me :D

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Pathfinder 2 RPG - Age of Ashes AP 5: Against the Scarlet Triad
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Also bit confused about whether caulborn is ancestry or not since the article that called caulborn an ancestry also referred to "other races" (in context of caulborn dealing with them).

But yeah cool stuff in book

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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I suspect it'll take us time to fully transition out of using the word "race" in our text. For now, if you see it in print, assume it slipped through the cracks and should have read as "ancestry" though...

...ESPECIALLY in the context of something in 1st edition that was a playable PC option. Caulborns were not and I can't see us ever doing them as a player ancestry, so from that stance it's a non-issue.

Dark Archive

Ah, okay, so the term ancestry doesn't mean they might be pc ancestries eventually?

Well I still gotta hope for minotaur ancestry along with other stuff listed as "Other Ancestries" in Lost Omen Character Guide :'D

(that said, definitely agreeing that caulborn wouldn't work out as pc ancestry. They are super alien hivemind, they wouldn't have much reason to adventure and even then they aren't singular character)

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So I'm currently rereading this again in order to review it, but umm I think i spotted few editing mistakes I wanted to comment about:

First thing I noticed is that djinni vizier Palqari's picture is clearly angry looking efreet, which makes me wonder if picture was intended for Altshal Gha.

"even those are starting to falter as he comes to believe
this is his fate." ends one paragraph and next one begins
"from the PCs to get Mekrem to admit his suspicions
that the Scarlet Triad is behind his woes."

Umm, I think something like "Diplomacy x check from the PCs" got cut off by editing?

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Aaand reviewed. I can't help but wonder if I forgot lot of stuff I wanted to comment on, but at least I finally got the review out for this one too x-x;

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