It was the "Ask James Jacobs", he said there were giant roaches in there but they had to be cut.
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It was the "Ask James Jacobs", he said there were giant roaches in there but had to be cut.
So you're saying there was a roach clip?
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Roaches checked in, but they don't check out in this book.
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Dragon,
Nah. I'm just referencing the fact that there's a new thrope template coming...and it would be a nice way to do The Mummy. :)
Entothrope sounds like you transform into a single insectoid form, like Lycanthrope transforms into a single animal.
On the other hand, I *know* I've seen a variant ability or template for Mummies that does exactly what you want (allows them to assume the form a swarm of scarab beetles) but I can't recall exactly what and where, now.
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Dragon,
Nah. I'm just referencing the fact that there's a new thrope template coming...and it would be a nice way to do The Mummy. :)
Entothrope sounds like you transform into a single insectoid form, like Lycanthrope transforms into a single animal.
On the other hand, I *know* I've seen a variant ability or template for Mummies that does exactly what you want (allows them to assume the form a swarm of scarab beetles) but I can't recall exactly what and where, now.
There was one - the swarm-shifter - in 3.5's Libris Mortis.
There's also a vampire simple template in Classic Horrors Revisited that could just as easily be applied to a mummy.
The hard part about putting giant roaches in a book like this is keeping them in there there really bad about scurrying out.
(also im very ok with them not being in there)
I assume we'll be getting dinosaurs, but which ones?
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I wonder how many CR26+ creatures this book will actually have.
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With the inclusion of the Archdevils, Four Horsemen, Demon Lords, Empyreal Lords, and Great Old ones I'm going to say at the minimum 17+
Archdevils = 8
Four Horsemen = 4
Empyreal Lords = 3+
Demon Lords = 1+
Great Old Ones = 1+
And that's not taking into account other Demigods, and hopefully they'll be creatures of that CR besides Demigods.
I thought we weren't getting Demon Lords or Great Old Ones in this book?
Also, I don't know if they've said we'd be getting 8 archdevils or All 4 horsemen, just that we're getting some.
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I believe James has said we're getting all of those (Edit: Yep!), that being said (with what finally ends up end the book subject to change),
SZURIEL OR I RIOT!
Mmmmm, yummy high-CR monsters... I do hope not all of them will be large or bigger - daddy needs more medium and smaller CR 15+ monsters, Paizo! (Note to self, stat up a CR 20 or more diminutive creature...)
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16+ pages just for archdevils.... eh, would have preferred for page count to be save for other things.
I agree with you on that one Milo.
We might be getting some Kaiju, so if that is the case that then add another 1-3 CR26+ creatures.
I agree with you as well Chemlak, we could use some small or smaller size non-swarm based CR20+ creatures.
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I believe James has said we're getting all of those (Edit: Yep!), that being said (with what finally ends up end the book subject to change),
SZURIEL OR I RIOT!
Don't forget Charon! :D
He said we are getting all 8 archdevils and all 4 horsemen. He didn't say how many empyreal lords.
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That was just an assumption on how celestials are categorized (and presented in book 4), Angels, Archons, Agathion , and Azatas.
The Snuggable A's.
Daemons, Demons, Demodands, and Devils.
The Snuggable D's?
Also Divs!
The Dastardly D's, up against the Altruistic A's.
Thanks to Kytons, Qlippoth and Rakshasa (and Asuras, Sakhil, etc.), we've always had evil outsiders who broke out of the D's, but thanks to the Manasuptra, we've finally got broad race of good outsiders that don't start with A.
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I believe James has said we're getting all of those (Edit: Yep!), that being said (with what finally ends up end the book subject to change),
SZURIEL OR I RIOT!
Holy crap! ALL FOUR HORSEMEN!?
...Oh.
...Oh crap.
You know there's some GM out there who's going to pit his level 20 PCs against all of them at once as a final battle of the campaign.
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You know there's some GM out there who's going to pit his level 20 PCs against all of them at once as a final battle of the campaign.
Ha ha... Hah HAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!11!!!!!11!!!
;)
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Don't forget Charon! :DI believe James has said we're getting all of those (Edit: Yep!), that being said (with what finally ends up end the book subject to change),
SZURIEL OR I RIOT!
CHARON!!! [/Ozzy]
James also said we are getting proteans and qlippoths but no azura, oni, inevitables, aeons, kami, or rakshasa. I think we are getting some celestials as well not including the empyreal lords.
I'd love all new proteans, but I expect the ones in B6 are reprints from one of the recent APs; I want to say Giantslayer but I'm not certain (don't have it).
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Oh! Pick me! Pick me!
They're in Hell's Rebels. :-)
The reprint stop point for APs was ether Hell's Rebels or Hell's Vengeance.
Oh! Pick me! Pick me!
They're in Hell's Rebels. :-)
Giantslayer also had at least one new protean as well
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I hope one day they will get to reprint the Coeurl into a hardcover bestiary.
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Al these high end two page monsters make me bored
Jhar226, CR30 is the limit.
I would love to see stats for CR26+ fey, dragons, oozes, plants, giants, titans, monstrous humanoids, and elementals.
Dragon,
Nah. I'm just referencing the fact that there's a new thrope template coming...and it would be a nice way to do The Mummy. :)
Entothrope sounds like you transform into a single insectoid form, like Lycanthrope transforms into a single animal.
On the other hand, I *know* I've seen a variant ability or template for Mummies that does exactly what you want (allows them to assume the form a swarm of scarab beetles) but I can't recall exactly what and where, now.
There was one - the swarm-shifter - in 3.5's Libris Mortis.
There's also a vampire simple template in Classic Horrors Revisited that could just as easily be applied to a mummy.
Since I can't find anything else in my collection, Swarm-shifter might well be what I was thinking of.
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Al these high end two page monsters make me boredK.
Oooooooo Coautl Lord PLZ!!!!!!!!!
Yes fine. But as long as we get Charon and Szuriel, I'm good. :)
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Oooooooo Coautl Lord PLZ!!!!!!!!!
If they begin to expand upon Couatls the way they did Kytons, Rakshasa, Titans and other singular outsiders, that could be pretty fun!
Just as the Rakshasa seem like they'd be naturally more tied to Vudra, an expansion of Couatls seems like a natural fit for an expansion into more Arcadian themed critters and flavor and lore. (Although I'd prefer a 'made up' cosmology / pantheon, like that of Vudra, to one that's a direct port of Earth gods, as happened with Osirion/Egypt. Rather than Golarion versions of Quetzalcouatl, Tezcatlipoca, etc. I think I'd rather see the Couatls tied to pure fantasy realms and gods.)
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I would like to see more types of Couatls, Garuda, Peri, and a group of good outsiders that are native to the prime material plane.
I hope we will finally get some more types of Lamia, we haven't gotten any in a hardcover bestiary since B2.
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I just hope for less group monsters and more single monsters that arent unique and which are in range of cr 1 till 20. I especially love cr 10 till 17 monsters for some reason.
Also I would like to see a group of CN native outsiders and a group of LN native outsiders.
I fixed that sentence to make it more clear, my bad about the confusion.
According Mr. Jacobs all the 0HD races in this book are already mentioned.
Well races are fine. I still want my horsemen.
As for mixture, I'm okay with how Paizo picks and chooses monsters. *cites Monster Manual 5 (3.5) for an example that he DIDN'T like*
Too be honest I can't think of any of 3.0/3.5 bestiaries past the first one that was any good.
Monster manual 3 and fiend folio from 3.5 edition were fun though. Monsters of faerum sucked because it missed metalmasters.
Metal masters?! What the heck is that?!
Dragon,
I liked 3. 4 was forgettable in some ways. 5 just outright made me mad.
So far NONE of the Bestiaries have sucked. They might have a few less useful creatures, but overall, I'd rate them higher than 3.0/3.5 MMs.