Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of the Beast (PFRPG)

*is glad our resident Kitsune expert is here*

BTW, since it's obvious that singular nation gazeteers are a really slow way to cover the world of Golarion (don't stop though!)), I should say I am interested in "cultural/regional group" products which cover a cohesive unit (even if the parts may be antagonistic etc), f.e. People of Shu, People of Obari, etc. Illuminating the history of how these nations/peoples/races developed (e.g. Lung Wa Empire) is interesting context for me, and adds another level of potentially intersecting identities and meanings... Stuff Paizo has done in that line has been...

If Paizo ever did a "Races of the Dragon Empires" Campaign Setting Guide, I REALLY hope I'd get to work with Mark and Amanda on that. I absolutely LOVE all of the Tian Xia races, largely in part because with the sole exception of the tengu, they borrow from real-world mythology.

And you're right; if you want to see something like that happen, the best thing you can do is to A) support Inner Sea Races and B) support "Blood of" Player Companions. I do not think it was a coincidence that Inner Sea Faiths, a book that almost perfectly mirrors the layout for Inner Sea Gods, came out roughly a year after that critically-acclaimed product was released.

If you want more information on races, vote with your wallet.

The tengu is from real myth they even have a way for them to look like humans with big noses like some versions in the stories have. They just need a racial feat to give them wings.

Actually Tengu are japanese but there´s similar creatures in different cultures. Garuda belong to that group too.

Another thing people can do besides voting with their wallet is writing Product Reviews here, on amazon and on other sites. Obviously, vote well for what you like to see more and it´s also possible to describe what you like or not and why in the reviews.

I´m also really pleased hearing Alex Augunas is working on this book, together with Owen they bring forth great stuff.
Just double check for things like ascetic style please, we want that Society legal! :D

Even only two pages of content could net us more alt favored class options,an archetype and a couple feats. I think it will be fine.

Just double check for things like ascetic style please, we want that Society legal! :D

My absolute favorite thing to do at the Philly Lodge is brag about the stuff I write that people in the room are playing with. :-)

As a result, I try REALLY hard to present Owen with cool ideas that A) present meaningful options for characters and B) help to improve class and build gameplay for concepts that are either difficult or flat-out impossible to pull off. That won't change for as long as Paizo keeps hiring me.

I can say you wrote some of my most favorite stuff. Keep that coming! :D

I just hope there isn't any archetypes because they take up too much room and there is very limited space to begin with.

Hey, I'd be very excited for a kitsune vigilante archetype. I'm pretty interested regardless of what the exact content is- it's stuff good enough to get in on limited space.

Hey, I'd be very excited for a kitsune vigilante archetype. I'm pretty interested regardless of what the exact content is- it's stuff good enough to get in on limited space.

My first reaction to this is a "please don´t!".

I have someone at my gaming table playing a Vanara Monk who would be very interested in those Ki Powers. Though I doubt he would say no to more Vanara stuff in general.

I'm also concerned about the 7 races in a book issue, not because of concerns about the authors' passion for the topics but because it doesn't leave a lot of room for material. Four pages per race doesn't seem like a lot. Still given the people working on this book, I remain cautiously optimistic.

I just hope to finally get some catfolk artwork that looks like B3's for once.

I just hope to finally get some catfolk artwork that looks like B3's for once.

B3 catfolk vs ARG catfolk in the same picture

I hope to see a decent amount of alternate racial traits and favored class bonuses for classes not currently covered for these races. I would particularly like to see some alternate racial traits for kitsune that replace the bonus to enchantment to a bonus to illusion or necromancy, since both seem thematic for kitsune. Besides, it's wrong that a gnome (with fell magic) should be better at possessing people than a kitsune!

Some kitsune feats that interact with possession spells could be neat, though I'd probably prefer it if anyone could take them and were just particular thematic for kitsune. Why no, I have no idea why you're accusing me of having wanted to play a possession-focused kitsune sorcerer ever since Occult Adventures came out...!

...though a kitsune sorcerer bloodline focused on possession could be very neat. Though I wouldn't object if a certain bloodrager bloodline from a certain third party Kitsune-focused book found its way into these pages...but I imagine Alex would probably prefer not to reprint material.

Anyways. Definitely interested and looking forward to this book. I wonder if one of the vanara ki powers allows you to extend your reach when using a bo staff, hanbo, or quarterstaff? Or summon a golden cloud functionally similar to a phantom steed? Or use shrink item, but only on weapons or a specific weapon? Probably not going to allow creating a simulacrum of yourself or get into the polymorph effects, though maybe an illusion effect that can make you look like various objects or creatures could be possible...

Definitely interested and looking forward to this book. I wonder if one of the vanara ki powers allows you to extend your reach when using a bo staff, hanbo, quarterstaff or kakkhara?

Added the bolded.

luck magic and ki powers sounds interesting.

Luthorne wrote:

Definitely interested and looking forward to this book. I wonder if one of the vanara ki powers allows you to extend your reach when using a bo staff, hanbo, quarterstaff or kakkhara?

Added the bolded.

I was looking at already existing weapons, but a khakkhara could be an interesting new weapon...I imagine it would count as a holy symbol, at least.

Khakkhara (forgot an h up there) is already a new monk weapon from weapon masters handbook, 1d8x3 7gp.

Blood of the Beast?!?!? I keep looking for reasons to cancel my PC subscription and you guys just won't give me any! ARGH!
Sure, we might like more room for whatever races may be our faves, but just be grateful this is getting published at all! Me, I am not a kitsune/vanara fan--at all, but grateful for what grippli and catfolk love will be printed in this...

Khakkhara (forgot an h up there) is already a new monk weapon from weapon masters handbook, 1d8x3 7gp.

Hmm...oh, right, one of the sample weapons created using the weapon creation system, I skimmed over that. Not sure if that's considered a proper weapon or just an example, though...but it could certainly be used as one.

It looks like a proper weapon and i don´t know why it shouldn´t be, but it also seems not to be Pathfinder Society legal, what is sad.

They could be testing the waters, like Distant Shores, to see how much people might be interested in said unexplored places.

Pfft! Stay at home, cooperate, report!

Rysky wrote:

They could be testing the waters, like Distant Shores, to see how much people might be interested in said unexplored places.

Pfft! Stay at home, cooperate, report!

Inner Sea basements, backyards and outbacks are so cleaned out they are sterile by now. Venture out, cooperate and report! Especially to TienXia and Casmaron!

I'm just glad changelings aren't a part of this one...

I'm just glad changelings aren't a part of this one...

Why? Don´t wanna see your personal hobbyhorse in the mix with 6 other races or other reasons? :D

Isabelle Lee wrote:

I'm just glad changelings aren't a part of this one...

Why? Don´t wanna see your personal hobbyhorse in the mix with 6 other races or other reasons? :D

Because I'm not one of the writers on the book. ^_^

I didn´t know you write for Paizo at all^^

Hayato Ken wrote:

Isabelle Lee wrote:

I'm just glad changelings aren't a part of this one...

Why? Don´t wanna see your personal hobbyhorse in the mix with 6 other races or other reasons? :D

Because I'm not one of the writers on the book. ^_^

Blood of the Coven, plz and Thankies.

Well it is not like they can't repeat races in different books. Maybe will get a races of Tian Xia, gerund, arcadia, etc.

Maybe we will get a horror themed races one that gives us dhampir, changling, skinwalker, etc.

Would love some more alien races themed ones and that actually focuses more on the races themselves.

I didn´t know you write for Paizo at all^^

She's done several things for us already, just none of it has come out yet. And I have every reason to think she'll be doing many more things for us in the months to come. :)

Hayato Ken wrote:

I didn´t know you write for Paizo at all^^

She's done several things for us already, just none of it has come out yet. And I have every reason to think she'll be doing many more things for us in the months to come. :)

Consider me interested!

While it's not what I first thought of when I clicked the link, this at least looks a little interesting. Hope it does well.

Considering the bad experience with Blood/Elements, and this being even more diluted (pages per race), I'm EXTREMELY skeptical. But I'll keep an ear out for reviews after the fact. Definitely not a blind preorder though.

I hope we get some info for doing a kitsune mesmerist. Because that is a match made in the outer spheres that must happen.

I hope we get some info for doing a kitsune mesmerist. Because that is a match made in the outer spheres that must happen.

There is no such thing as a Kitsune Mesmerist. Forget you ever mentioned it.

zergtitan wrote:

I hope we get some info for doing a kitsune mesmerist. Because that is a match made in the outer spheres that must happen.

There is no such thing as a Kitsune Mesmerist. Forget you ever mentioned it.

* There is no such thing as a Grippli Mesmerist either. *

Kitsune Mesmerist wrote:

zergtitan wrote:

I hope we get some info for doing a kitsune mesmerist. Because that is a match made in the outer spheres that must happen.

There is no such thing as a Kitsune Mesmerist. Forget you ever mentioned it.

* There is no such thing as a Grippli Mesmerist either. *

Gakhhh!

All hail the HypnoToad!

HypnoToad wrote:

Kitsune Mesmerist wrote:

zergtitan wrote:

I hope we get some info for doing a kitsune mesmerist. Because that is a match made in the outer spheres that must happen.

There is no such thing as a Kitsune Mesmerist. Forget you ever mentioned it.

* There is no such thing as a Grippli Mesmerist either. *

Gakhhh!

All hail the HypnoToad!

I refuse; he hasn't bribed me nearly enough

I am looking forward to the infomration that this book will have especially for the kitusne!

Just a quick question are these races to be the equivelent to the henjeokai?

I just hope to finally get some catfolk artwork that looks like B3's for once.

My own bias aside, thats unlikely considering that Catfolk are cursed with "Artists do them differently all every time" to the point they gave up and made it canon that they have really variable appearances.

I'm really looking forward to finally getting some real information on the kitsune from this book. Right now all we know is that they kind of exist and have an odd connection to both the spirits and humans. There are so many unanswered questions.

We know nothing about where they came from, why they can only turn very specifically into humans and nothing else, why Daikitsu is so different from her race, or how kitsune even find one another when so many of them are pretending to be human. Plus, the subject of half-kitsune has never been addressed even though they almost certainly exist. Kitsune are shapeshifters after all: in Tian Xia half-kitsune they should probably be more common than half-elves and half-orcs, lol.

I just hope that Alex finds some way to balance our need for information with the need for more character options. I'm still holding my breath for some of the non-enchantment kitsune themed powers from various legends such as foxfire, life drain, and possession ;)

Somehow I doubt possession wouldn't be enchantment. Foxfire would like be evocation based, and life drain necromancy. Maybe like the Dhampir ability(feat?).

Somehow I doubt possession wouldn't be enchantment. Foxfire would like be evocation based, and life drain necromancy. Maybe like the Dhampir ability(feat?).

I believe that the new possession spells from Occult Adventures are actually necromancy like magic jar. Kitsune are just currently no better at using those spells than anyone else ;)

Would a half kitusne be ppossible?

Possession being necromancy instead of enchantment is hugely important because pretty much nothing is immune except constructs unless protected by the appropriate Protection from X spell. Great for plants, undead, and oozes.

Would a half kitusne be ppossible?

I don't see why not. It happened in at least one Japanese legend, and in Pathfinder terms shapeshifting makes it possible.

A half-kitsune would be cool.

Caleb D'natin wrote:

Would a half kitusne be ppossible?

I don't see why not. It happened in at least one Japanese legend, and in Pathfinder terms shapeshifting makes it possible.

Well... Heroes of the Wild introduced alternate fey racial traits for non-fey races, and Blood of Shadow similarly added Shadowborn & Darkborn alternate racial traits. If Mr. Stephens is gauging interest, I too would like something similar to add a little kitsune into the core races.

Matrix Dragon wrote:

Caleb D'natin wrote:

Would a half kitusne be ppossible?

I don't see why not. It happened in at least one Japanese legend, and in Pathfinder terms shapeshifting makes it possible.

Well... Heroes of the Wild introduced alternate fey racial traits for non-fey races, and Blood of Shadow similarly added Shadowborn & Darkborn alternate racial traits. If Mr. Stephens is gauging interest, I too would like something similar to add a little kitsune into the core races.

True thought at the same time something like this would work best because technically in the original legends the child of a human and a kitsune was just a normal human but with greater spiritual powers then a normal human. No shapeshifting, no fox form or appearance.

Wouldn't half kitsune just be humans? .-.