| Axial |
I got this book yesterday. Here are some fun facts about it!
*There are a grand total of six different monsters in this book that use dehydration as a weapon or are capable of inducing thirst in their victims. In a mostly desert-themed campaign setting, that's a big deal. I can see why they did it, but the sheer number of monsters with dehydration powers is almost funny.
*Three different creatures are specifically focused on camping out near an oasis waiting to eff people up, and several more are implied to. Again, desert campaign!
*There's a bear that eats brains.
*Lemurfolk PC race!
*Two new devils, one new demon.
*There are three new "deities". An arch-devil named Arbeyach who looks like an old man filled with vermin, a demon lord named Camazotz what looks like a giant humanoid bat, and another demon lord named Mechuiti that is a giant mandril. For reasons I still have not begun to comprehend, they don't have domains and favored weapons.
| terraleon |
There are three new "deities". An arch-devil named Arbeyach who looks like an old man filled with vermin, a demon lord named Camazotz what looks like a giant humanoid bat, and another demon lord named Mechuiti that is a giant mandril. For reasons I still have not begun to comprehend, they don't have domains and favored weapons.
I believe that information is in the actual Southlands book. If you're using Southlands, then you're all set. Otherwise, then they can be whatever you need them to be.
(Side Note: The desert region being modeled is roughly the size of the United States, so a variety of monsters with dehydration powers allows them to be regional.)
-Ben.
Marc Radle
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I got this book yesterday. Here are some fun facts about it!
*There are a grand total of six different monsters in this book that use dehydration as a weapon or are capable of inducing thirst in their victims. In a mostly desert-themed campaign setting, that's a big deal. I can see why they did it, but the sheer number of monsters with dehydration powers is almost funny.
Of course, in a book containing more than 100 monsters, a mere 6 that cause dehydration or are capable of inducing thirst doesn't seem at all unreasonable :)
| Axial |
I believe that information is in the actual Southlands book. If you're using Southlands, then you're all set. Otherwise, then they can be whatever you need them to be.
(Side Note: The desert region being modeled is roughly the size of the United States, so a variety of monsters with dehydration powers allows them to be regional.)
-Ben.
I have that book; I was one of the backers. All three of them are referenced in the book to varying degrees, but none of them are given domains.
On the topic of dehydration monsters, I am not opposed. Six monsters means the GM has choices.
| terraleon |
All three of them are referenced in the book to varying degrees, but none of them are given domains.
Lookitthat. You're quite right. Mechuiti and Camazotz were both in Kobold Quarterly. (23 and 9, respectively) Mechuiti was also in Pirates of the Western Ocean.
Camazotz
Domains Chaos, Evil, Travel and I would add Death and the Speed domain from Southlands.
Favored Weapon maquahuitl (a heavy wooden club edged down two sides with razor-like obsidian blades)
Mechuiti
Domains Destruction, Fire, Hunger, and while they're not listed in there, I'd add Animal and Evil, possibly Strength.
Favored Weapon Pirates of the Western Ocean implies this is a heavy mace
Arbeyach was in KQ#3, and he's noted as having:
Domains Death, Law, and Swarm, and I would add the Deception domain and the Vermin domain from Southlands.
Favored Weapon KQ#3 does not offer one, nor does any of the other places Arbeyach has surfaced, I'd suggest a stiletto or a scorpion whip.
However, the cult section in the back of Southlands has some cult worship feats that grant spell-like abilities to followers, and those could be used to grant any number of different powers to regular cultists.
-Ben.
| Axial |
Axial wrote:On the topic of dehydration monsters, I am not opposed. Six monsters means the GM has choices.All good! :)
There are PLENTY of cool choices for GMs in this book, that's for sure!
I can promise to you that I'll use at least one, maybe two creatures from here when the PCs are dumb enough to go to the desert. ;)
While you're here, may I ask what the reason was behind the design decision to not have domains for the three new deities?
| terraleon |
While you're here, may I ask what the reason was behind the design decision to not have domains for the three new deities?
They're three archdevils and demon princes. I wouldn't really consider them "deities," per se. They're certainly not anything I would expect player characters to be using as patron gods. The deities are all in the Southlands book, and these might be better thought of as serious enemies who might mastermind large plots, perhaps in the service of one the various dark gods listed in the setting book. And if it's just the GM rolling their own bad guys, I would expect them to customize it as they need.
But the details may just not have fit, or might have been simply forgotten, because it wasn't at the forefront of the monster's purpose. Arbeyach appears as a visiting dignitary in Courts of the Shadow Fey. The idea of him as a god didn't really enter into our mind as designers.
-Ben.
| Axial |
No, but in Pathfinder every single demon lord or nascent demon lord is a minor deity capable of granting spells to their followers. Paizo, and even Kobold Press in every other case but this one makes it a point to write up which favored weapon a demon lord grants and which domains his/her followers have access to.
It's true that none of these guys would probably be a PC's patron, but what if I want a cleric of Arberyach as the big baddie of my campaign? Seeing as how important the weapons/domains are thematically to a deity, like Desna's starknife or Zon-Kuthon's spiked chain, I would prefer not to guess.
| terraleon |
Perhaps in Golarion, they do. In Midgard, previously only Mammon is an arch-devil with domains and weapons in the setting. The others have been hit or miss in Midgard setting materials. Golarion doesn't necessarily equal Pathfinder, in terms of mechanics, but I see what you're saying. I can't say why these three in the bestiary didn't have the domains and weapons listed.
But if you're the GM, just make it up. The Setting Police will not show up and shut down your table if you do something different for your game.
-Ben.
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I love the Midgard campaign setting !
This book looks like it's awesome !
Any chance for a D&D 5th version of this ?
Because that would make me go all "Squeeeee ! Take my money, please !".
In truth, if the entirety of the Midgard campaign setting was transcribed into D&D 5th edition, i think I would go (temporarily) bonkers with joy, and surely broke.
[*Putting a kobold's skull helmet askew on his rotund gnomish head and waving a miner's pick in a (self-harming) menacing way*]
"Come on, darned kobolds: make me bonkers and broke, I dare you !"
Marc Radle
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I love the Midgard campaign setting !
This book looks like it's awesome !
Any chance for a D&D 5th version of this ?
Because that would make me go all "Squeeeee ! Take my money, please !".
In truth, if the entirety of the Midgard campaign setting was transcribed into D&D 5th edition, i think I would go (temporarily) bonkers with joy, and surely broke.
[*Putting a kobold's skull helmet askew on his rotund gnomish head and waving a miner's pick in a (self-harming) menacing way*]
"Come on, darned kobolds: make me bonkers and broke, I dare you !"
Well, to get you started, there's this :) Southlands Heroes – 5th Edition Compatible
... which you can pick up ***RIGHT HERE! *** :)
Kobold Press will absolutely be producing 5E material ... but the lack of official 5E OGL right now makes doing so a bit dicey. The rumor mill says an official 5E OGL will be ready ... soonish. At that point, I think it's safe to say there will be plenty of cool 5E stuff from the Kobolds!
I will say ... if you attended the "What’s New for 5th Edition D&D from Kobold Press" GenCon seminar you heard a bit about the possibility of LOTS of new 5E monsters on the horizon from Kobold Press ... :)
| Voadam |
The rumor mill says an official 5E OGL will be ready ... soonish. At that point, I think it's safe to say there will be plenty of cool 5E stuff from the Kobolds!
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on WotC.
Keep pressing on with Pathfinder under the OGL I say. Any more bestiaries planned? Something small but themed like Dark Fey?
| Myth Lord |
Ok, so I just bought the Southlands Bestiary, and I must admit that i'm shockingly impressed by it!
The artwork is simply amazing and stunning and most of the creatures are awesome!
There is a great deal in this book and I really hope the makers of this book will Kick-start or otherwise create much more of these in the future (Native American HINT HINT ;-) ) as that would be awesome!
This are some of the better and disappointing critters of the book:
Arboreal Grappler: Ok this is a really awesome critter that reminds me of the North American Fearsome Critter named Argopelter, it has the same arms at least, and if it was called the Argopelter I wouldn't even mind, in fact that artwork is gonna suit my Argopelter, it sure as hell is much better than any of the original argopelter artworks I've found!
Asanbosam: Another artwork which really suits the creature, beatiful! I love the iron diet of the creatures which gives them their teeth, which makes perfect sense! Rusty for old ones is also very thought out! Perfect creature, one of my favorites in the book.
Blemmyes: WOW, Just WOW, this artwork is exactly what I searched for in Blemmyes, they remind me of the Serious Sam enemies and fit perfectly for the Blemmyes, its like someone drew the version from my mind. Their abilities are also very fitting.
Bouda: I never thought Gnolls had roots in mythology!? That artwork does most of the work but then come the awesome background and abilities of these torturers of the weak! Awesome, never cared for Gnolls too much, but this creature is going to end up in my project about mythology now.
Cactid: I really love cactus monsters and Pathfinder only has the humanoid cactus this far, so this awesome creature really comes from heaven for me. Awesome art.
Dau: Is this from Mythology? Can somebody LINK me to more information about these awesome Fairy-like creatures that spin solid illusions? I'm fasinated by them!
Kishi: Turning these into demons makes sense! Not really a huge fan of the picture but i'm happy this creature from mythology gets some love!
Dispa: It would have been better if this creature's bite turned creatures into oozes or into extremely thirsty victims that drink their own blood if no other liquid is nearby, but that artwork is really awesome!
Dire Spinosaurus: Wow, best Spinosaurus Artwork i've ever seen! Also an awesome beasty! Hope to see more dinosaurs in the future from you guys!
Drought Swallows: Here I was searching for artworks of Rock Swallows for my project as WDL mentioned some Anaye Demonic Swallow monsters from Native American myths called the Rock Swallows, this artwork comes pretty close and their abilities are also awesome.
Dune Mimic: At first I thought this can't be coincidence as this creature perfectly resembles another Anaye from Native American mythology, the living desert or Seitaad. Awesome creature with cool artwork and I always love more Mimics!
Gbahali: Thanks for this creature, it never came to my attention before, but that artwork startled my curiosity and now I use this mythological monster in my own project. I love this Chameleon Croc! One of my favorites in the book.
Azza: Another creature which resembles an other creature from myth, this cloud-rider artwork can come off as the Spanish Nuberu, which also ride clouds. I love Gremlins so they are all cool for me!
Mbielu: I'm very curious at the Mbielu-Mbielu-Mbielu! Beautiful artwork, best artwork for Mbielu i've seen on internet.
Ngoubou: These mixtures of Hippo and Styracosaurus is awesome and cute at the same time!
Serpopard: Too bad the neck is too short, as would it have been somewhat longer I would have found it perfect! The reptilian face really suits this creature and the colors are cool.
Titanobao: Awesome! Love this beast, and its one of my favorite prehistoric animals!
Wakane: Pretty much based on the Kongamato I guess, I love this artwork and creature, but I wonder why you guys didn't take a real mythological beast like the Ropen?
Xhkarsh: The mantis monster! This is a mantis monster! Love the artwork and the abilities and I was bummed this wasn't from mythology! As myths could use some Mantis!
Now for the creatures that I really didn't like that much, which are few indeed.
Emela Ntouka: The artwork seems kinda off, and I imagined a more fearsome beast for the Elephant Killer, less Rhinoceros and more prehistorical looking.
Nandi Bear: This is just another bear monster, would have changed this creature a bit or mix it with an hyena, or put alien tentacles inside its maw.
Mngwa: A tiger/Panther would have been much better, don't like the Lion version at all, but the abilities are kinda awesome!
Jaculus: I can't see the spear-like head? Doesn't look that spear-like at all.
All other creatures are nice! The African myth creatures i'm kinda missing are: Adze, Kasai Rex, Olitiau, Abatwa, Anansi, Petsuchos, Ya-Te-Veo, Cerastes, Eloko, Ga-Gorib, Intulo, Lunwaba, Jidra, Sak, Ropen, Ichneumon, Leontophone, MIgas, Rompo, Sandwalker and Zogbanu, but who knows they can be in another book?
I really hope to see more of these area-specific monster books full of mythology monsters from you guys!
Keep them coming!
Marc Radle
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I just received my copy of the Southlands Bestiary!
Wow! I knew the content was good, of course, and I knew what the book looked like on my screen but ...
WOW! I am thrilled with the quality of the printed book itself! The art looks vibrant and crisp and great and the quality of the nice, thick, coated paper stock is outstanding! It just feels great to page through.
Man, I could not be happier with how this book turned out!!! :)