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I am so excited for this that I have been trying occult rituals to bring this release closer. so far nothing has occurred. But I have begun to hear scratching in the walls of my room, is that a bad thing?
No, but if the walls start breathing and you see demonic faces in the wallpaper mouthing indescribable eldritch blasphemies, it's probably time to call in the pros.
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Proton Backs would be nice but maybe we will get those in the Technology Guide Book 2;)
There's this bit labeled "Medium" I'm chomping for... Must wait on.
I hope that there is a bloodline or archetype for sorcerers that make it so they cast spells like psychic magic, as in instead of somatic and verbal they use thought and emotion.
I hope that there is a bloodline or archetype for sorcerers that make it so they cast spells like psychic magic, as in instead of somatic and verbal they use thought and emotion.
Maybe Both?
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"the reality-warping kineticist"
HUH?!?
The Kineticist simply can manifest elemental matter in various ways... where's so reality-warping about that???
"Elemental-attuned" would be more accurate.
Will occult be like mythic?,using a different system and rules?
No. More like the Advanced Class Guide only the theme is Psychics instead of hybrid classes. Although there were rumors a while ago of 'Occult for everybody' subsystems but for the most part its new classes and new options.
Ok, I was just asking because the new product occult bestiary has was said to be variant as well as new monsters. That made me think of the mythic variant versions of monsters mythic adventures has.
The occult variants of other classic monsters do speak to the same sort of ideas as the mythic ones, in that they give you a new variant of that monster that can enhance the way you portray that monster's society and the like. Occult Adventures is in the same line as Mythic Adventures, the "Adventures" line, which gives you the tools you need to run a game with a different feel. However, Malwing is also right that the tools in this one are also meant to work seamlessly in your normal game (as befits the themes of the occult as being the hidden layer beneath the surface, after all), whereas Mythic is a whole new mode that changes the CR balance.
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Ok, I was just asking because the new product occult bestiary has was said to be variant as well as new monsters. That made me think of the mythic variant versions of monsters mythic adventures has.The occult variants of other classic monsters do speak to the same sort of ideas as the mythic ones, in that they give you a new variant of that monster that can enhance the way you portray that monster's society and the like. Occult Adventures is in the same line as Mythic Adventures, the "Adventures" line, which gives you the tools you need to run a game with a different feel. However, Malwing is also right that the tools in this one are also meant to work seamlessly in your normal game (as befits the themes of the occult as being the hidden layer beneath the surface, after all), whereas Mythic is a whole new mode that changes the CR balance.
huh...this is the first time Adventurers has been referred to as a line. Might that suggest future volumes (cough Steampunk Adventures cough)
huh...this is the first time Adventurers has been referred to as a line. Might that suggest future volumes (cough Steampunk Adventures cough)Ok, I was just asking because the new product occult bestiary has was said to be variant as well as new monsters. That made me think of the mythic variant versions of monsters mythic adventures has.The occult variants of other classic monsters do speak to the same sort of ideas as the mythic ones, in that they give you a new variant of that monster that can enhance the way you portray that monster's society and the like. Occult Adventures is in the same line as Mythic Adventures, the "Adventures" line, which gives you the tools you need to run a game with a different feel. However, Malwing is also right that the tools in this one are also meant to work seamlessly in your normal game (as befits the themes of the occult as being the hidden layer beneath the surface, after all), whereas Mythic is a whole new mode that changes the CR balance.
I have to +1 this.
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Isn't steampunk really overplayed? <_<
Plus would that really need new classes?
Maybe more in the Alternate/Hybrid types (new ones wouldn't hurt either), would/could help with low/no/wild magic settings/adventures (like in Mana Wastes / Alkenstar), and it breaks less versimilitude than High/Futuristic Technologies.
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I could think of a couple of new classes that would fit into such a book, most obviously an artificer.
I would be for some steampunk.
huh...this is the first time Adventurers has been referred to as a line. Might that suggest future volumes (cough Steampunk Adventures cough)Ok, I was just asking because the new product occult bestiary has was said to be variant as well as new monsters. That made me think of the mythic variant versions of monsters mythic adventures has.The occult variants of other classic monsters do speak to the same sort of ideas as the mythic ones, in that they give you a new variant of that monster that can enhance the way you portray that monster's society and the like. Occult Adventures is in the same line as Mythic Adventures, the "Adventures" line, which gives you the tools you need to run a game with a different feel. However, Malwing is also right that the tools in this one are also meant to work seamlessly in your normal game (as befits the themes of the occult as being the hidden layer beneath the surface, after all), whereas Mythic is a whole new mode that changes the CR balance.
Yeah that was the biggest thing I took from the post. Makes sense. Not too many other places to go without becoming a bloated mess so why not have hardcovers that have new classes divided neatly by the genre of the immediate setting. I can see Steam punk Adventures, Primitive Adventures, Space Adventures, ext.
I would also like those primitive and space adventure books.
Isn't steampunk really overplayed? <_<
Plus would that really need new classes?
In Pathfinder, not really. Despite the Victorian/renaissance feel of a lot of some Inner Sea fashion we don't have that much steam or reall any other fantastical technology but magic. Aside from guns we're in medieval stasis until we get to the space age with the technology guide. In third party and in D&D as a whole we're kind of played out, I have two third party things for steampunk in Pathfinder.
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When will the cover art be updated?
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Will there be an "Occult Origins"? Much like there was Advanced Origins.
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An "Occult Origins" book would be awesome, I hope there will be one.
I thought I remember someone mentioning that we would get a CS and Player book supplementing the hardcover, in addition to the Bestiary.
I would enjoy reading were and how these new classes fit into the world of Golarion.
Well Samy if Occult Bestiary is one and Occult Origins could be another what would be the other four you had in mind?
Well Samy if Occult Bestiary is one and Occult Origins could be another what would be the other four you had in mind?
I'm fairly certain that Samy is saying he'd like an adventure path to go along with Occult Adventures.
Yeah I am surprised the AP of the fall isn't playing towards Occult Adventures material, but that may be because of the problems that were had with designing Mythic and writing a Mythic adventure path at the same time?
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Could just be sensible precaution, in case OA slips on the schedule, and they have to start the fall AP in August, so if it required OA, that could be a problem. Much more safe to start the Feb AP with using OA material.
Plus, they could still be placating the classic fanbase with a second classic-style AP after the shock that Iron Gods must have been. "Look, look, we're not abandoning you, really!"
Well, to be fair, at the moment Hell's Rebels doesn't sound too classical, as it's shaping up to be mostly urban investigation, something the average, casual murder-hobo won't be too good at. :P
I would squee at an OA adventure, once they iron out the kinks in the system, something that, as MMCJawa noted, they couldn't quite do with Mythic.
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Well, to be fair, at the moment Hell's Rebels doesn't sound too classical, as it's shaping up to be mostly urban investigation, something the average, casual murder-hobo won't be too good at. :P
Well, I meant classical more in the sense of the basic Western medieval style setting; no Egypt, no planets, no robots. Acknowledged, though, that the style doesn't sound too much like a classical dungeon crawl.
Well both APs last year were experiments but both of the ones this year sound like standard far. I hope that one of the APs next year will use the OA book in both theme and mechanics.
There has been at least one hinted comment that the AP after Hell's Rebels will be OA oriented. I believe it was by James Jacobs no less, but I can't recall where I saw that. There were no firm commitments or promises made with that remark, but it seems to have been the intent.
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Although the way OA is set up with its inspirations, I could see a ton of countries plot lines being able to make use of this book (perhaps more so than psionic). Ustalav, Jalmeray, Darklands, Razmiran, etc could all be places that I would see occult classes and such being associated with them.
This book would be good for APs for Castrovel, Vudra, Darklands, Akiton, Dominion of the Black, Aucturn, Leng, Ustalav, Dimension of Dreams, Osirion, Jalmeray, Varisia, and maybe Sarusan.
I hope for a Castrovel AP one day but it will be a long time till we see an AP(or AP volume) that takes place on another planet again.
@Gorbacz - has GS been unpopular? Granted I don't see anywhere near the... excitement IRON GODS evoked. :)
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I, for one, cannot wait. Despite some bumps in the road the playtest classes were very promising and most filled in roles and concepts previously unfilled, and didn't seem to steal thunder from Psionics. More than the classes the book promises flavor.
If Hell's Rebels is Occult Adventures oriented I'd be surprised that the first OA adventure path isn't set in Ustalav or Vudra. They seem like the more obvious candidates for it, but Cheliax is kind of a place with a lot of underground mysticism so it's not too far off. Although I think They may want to slow-roll out adventure path support just so people could afford to get all the books by not getting a bunch of new-fangled things at once. Maybe start it out in the modules line.
Other support books linking this to Golarion would make good sense, wouldn't it?
Such. A. Tease!
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I am sure the AP after Hell's Rebels will have at least some occult related stuff but I doubt it will be a Distant Worlds AP. I think it will be at least 2017 before we see anything like that. Though I wouldn't complain if I am wrong and it is sooner.