I wonder what the handsome fello with the club is ???
Jinkin already have the movie gremlin likeness. Still im hoping for mogwai.
Man, it has been way too long since I've watched those movies. My first thought when I saw the word mogwai was to wonder how you'd fit a Scottish instrumental rock band into the bestiary... took me a good thirty seconds for my brain to catch up... although, that does give me some ideas for a game...
Anyway, super excited for this release. Looks like it's got a lot of stuff I've been waiting for. I love the idea of getting some more Psychopomps. In regards to the thoughts on how many more are needed or justified, I like to think of it in a similar manner to how things stand in the Iron Druid novels (a series that I highly recommend if you enjoy silly, fairly light hearted modern fantasy. One of my friends has described it as The Dresden Files without the grim-dark). Basically all of the gods, demons, and other supernatural creatures exist. Meaning there are multiple Choosers of the Slain, like the Morrigan for the Tuatha Dé Danann, the Valkyries for the Norse and, of course, the obligatory Grim Reaper. They're all aware of each other and in general stay out of each others way, but at times they may compete or even just come to an arrangement as to who gets to take certain souls. So the same thing could apply to Golarion. Not canon, I know, but it's how I make it all fit in my head.
Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.
Check out Hellboy 2.
Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.
A thousand times yes. I loved Guillermo del Toro's take on Hellboy, and particularly the fae in the second film.
The 2011 remake of Don't Be Afraid of the Dark by Matthew Robbins and Guillermo del Toro is also a pretty awesome example of evil tooth fairies... as well as making me wonder if del Toro has some major subconscious issues with certain childhood fables.
Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.
The tooth fairy is actually a very, very clever bogeyman.
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For the person wishing they could find the Kaiju template from an old Dragon magazine, it is in #289. Can't help ya with finding your copy, though.
I definitely look forward to some of this. Though Cthulu and other Lovecraft-esque monsters are wastes of space for me, and I never could understand the draw of such. Of course, I don't see the fun in playing an evil character or all those demons/devils/evil outsiders; nor the draw of the World of Darkness games, or horror films, etc. But this book is still a must, as I absolutely love monster books.
I just fear the "outer dragons" are tentacle-clad creatures ala Cthulu and friends. And that makes me a sad panda.
I wonder what the handsome fello with the club is ???
Probably Grendel, I don't think Fomorian Giants look that way as they are more magical and less boney, also its 100% sure that we get Grendel as he's mentioned and Fomorians aren't.
And YES, the tooth fairies are from Hellboy me think now that James said that! The best Tooth Faeries out there!
Aren't they magical in their real faerytales and Myths as well?
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Aren't they magical in their real faerytales and Myths as well?
They do come from mythology, but they're not deformed giants. We could DO them, but they'd be different from the things D&D players are used to, and as a result I'd rather not stat them up and just let folks keep using the deformed giants of their choice without worrying we overwrote them. (This is, incidentally, the same reason we called the magus what we did, and not a warlock.)
If you're looking for deformed giants or mutant giants for Pathfinder, the best bet currently are ogrekin for low CR and ash giants for higher CR foes.
That is disappointing...the DnD formorians I always thought were rather lame when compared the actual versions from legend. Maybe at some point we could get them under their alternative name, Fomor.
I think that giant on the cover is deformed enough!
Are the Firbolgs in the same boat as the Fomorians btw? Cuz Firbolgs are also very different in D&D from their real mythology roots.
I am not holding my breath for the Ravid, Sincubus, but I would be happy to see it if it was in here.
So if the tooth faeries are like the ones from hellboy does that mean we get a swarm version?
Well Firbolgs and Fomorians are from myth so we can still get some incarnation of them one day.
JJ is on record as not wanting the Ravid, as it has a tendency to create monsters more powerful than itself.
JJ is on record as not wanting the Ravid, as it has a tendency to create monsters more powerful than itself.
That's easy to overcome, as the "dungeonmaster" that creates the game has the power to deside which objects will be animated and which not. Also one could encounter a Ravid that creates objects more powerful than itself so players of higher levels than the ravid itself could battle it still, as the objects are the barrier to a kill that would be easy otherwise.
Also you could just raise the CR like they did on other D&D monsters.
Alternatively, they could lower the caster level of the Animate Object. 20th Caster Level is a bit much.
Or they could just make the Ravid a higher CR.
Another option is too make a very much different and better creature with the same ABILITY (to animate objects in an aura, coming from the positive energy plane) as the Ravid. In that way the ability and homeplane stay the same the looks of the rather silly Ravid change.
I like the Ravids abilities and its origins, but the appearance I don't care about.
Fomorian giants as they exist in D&D are closed content and not something we can use in Pathfinder.
I think the Cave Giant already covers it very well.
And most firbolgs I've seen so far are pretty close to Wood Giants.
Tooth fairy sounds a bit silly to me.Check out Hellboy 2.
And there is also the Don't be Afraid of the Dark remake version. Which is my opinion is far more sadistic.
Well then, give the Tooth Fairy the looks of the Hellboy version and the behavior of the Don't be afraid of the Dark Remake version :P
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I would prefer the hellboy II version for tooth faeries but would like stats for the fey from Don't Be Afraid of the Dark remake.
Fomorians are nothing like cave giants in myth and the firbolgs are fey that look like giants(well giant scotts or irish).
I would like Firbolgs and Formorians in Pathfinder, but if they never are gonna show up I wouldn't be disappointed like I would if things like Cherufe, Buggane, Mahaha, Batibat, Fossegrim, Abaia and Kamaitachi never see the light of day in pathfinder.
I agree tho that Fomorians are very different from Cave Giants, Wood Giants and Firbolgs could be... but Firbolgs are fey and if there would be firbolgs there would also be the wild hunt.
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Just had a crazy thought.
Cthulhu vs Tarrasque: Battle for Golarion.
*Queue Godzilla Theme music.*
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Just had a crazy thought.
Cthulhu vs Tarrasque: Battle for Golarion.
*Queue Godzilla Theme music.*
"No matter who wins, we lose!"
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It would be like Godzilla vs Hedorah(smog monster).
Fomorian giants as they exist in D&D are closed content and not something we can use in Pathfinder.
Rats! I so like those twisted horrors.
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I still want to see Fomorians and Firbolgs in some incarnation as long as they are fey and/or giants.
It would be like Godzilla vs Hedorah(smog monster).
Yes, yes it would. I can even see Hedorah's roar fitting perfectly for Cthulhu.
I thought that the Pan in Pan's Labyrinth was scary. This was done by Del Toro too wasn't it?
I thought that the Pan in Pan's Labyrinth was scary. This was done by Del Toro too wasn't it?
Yes it was. His films often have good creatures.
I would like to see the strange creature from Pan's Labrynth with it's eyes in the palm of it's hands stated up.
So many things I want see in this book.
So many surprises I am sure I will actually find.
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I actually don't mind having non-deformed Fomorians. I'd prefer just having them in the game.
Aren't they magical in their real faerytales and Myths as well?They do come from mythology, but they're not deformed giants. We could DO them, but they'd be different from the things D&D players are used to, and as a result I'd rather not stat them up and just let folks keep using the deformed giants of their choice without worrying we overwrote them. (This is, incidentally, the same reason we called the magus what we did, and not a warlock.)
If you're looking for deformed giants or mutant giants for Pathfinder, the best bet currently are ogrekin for low CR and ash giants for higher CR foes.
I for one would love to see a classic (Irish) treatment....I think Fomorians would make an excellent addition to the First World and the ranks of Fey.
Aren't they magical in their real faerytales and Myths as well?They do come from mythology, but they're not deformed giants. We could DO them, but they'd be different from the things D&D players are used to, and as a result I'd rather not stat them up and just let folks keep using the deformed giants of their choice without worrying we overwrote them. (This is, incidentally, the same reason we called the magus what we did, and not a warlock.)
If you're looking for deformed giants or mutant giants for Pathfinder, the best bet currently are ogrekin for low CR and ash giants for higher CR foes.
Mmm, not to nit-pick, but in the Celtic myths, they ARE deformed giants. Oops, I guess that I am nit-picking...
However, in the sense that the write up in D&D is closed and you'd have to totally reinvent them I suppose that it would be of questionable value to put forth all that effort.
I for one would love to see a classic (Irish) treatment....I think Fomorians would make an excellent addition to the First World and the ranks of Fey.Aren't they magical in their real faerytales and Myths as well?They do come from mythology, but they're not deformed giants. We could DO them, but they'd be different from the things D&D players are used to, and as a result I'd rather not stat them up and just let folks keep using the deformed giants of their choice without worrying we overwrote them. (This is, incidentally, the same reason we called the magus what we did, and not a warlock.)
If you're looking for deformed giants or mutant giants for Pathfinder, the best bet currently are ogrekin for low CR and ash giants for higher CR foes.
Perhaps something like a storm giant with a few more druid-like abilities?
In the AP where the star spawn of Cthulu is found there is a blurb about Great Cthulu that says that he would be as powerful to a star spawn as a star spawn is to a normal person. That would put his CR at 400..... I would love to see that stat block! (Assuming a CR 1 character)
In the AP where the star spawn of Cthulu is found there is a blurb about Great Cthulu that says that he would be as powerful to a star spawn as a star spawn is to a normal person. That would put his CR at 400..... I would love to see that stat block! (Assuming a CR 1 character)
Not exactly. Generally every 2 points a CR goes up by it implies a doubling in power unless I am mistaken. So, around CR 40.
Of course, this was before they settled on the power scale of the mythic rules.
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In the AP where the star spawn of Cthulu is found there is a blurb about Great Cthulu that says that he would be as powerful to a star spawn as a star spawn is to a normal person. That would put his CR at 400..... I would love to see that stat block! (Assuming a CR 1 character)
That was written before Mythic Adventures was anything more than a distant future possibility.
Cthulhu is CR 30. The maximum CR we can really do in the game, pretty much.
Are there any other CR 30s? Or is Great Cthulhu in a class of his own?
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I can't help but wonder if there's going to be some Distant Worlds-appropriate(though not specific) aliens and robots to play with here. Inner Sea Bestiary and Distant WOrlds itself really leaves one hungering for more. :)
More complex oozes?
Plant/Aberration/Ooze/non-traditional-based player races?
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Starmetal-based oozes, perhaps?
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Aren't they magical in their real faerytales and Myths as well?They do come from mythology, but they're not deformed giants. We could DO them, but they'd be different from the things D&D players are used to, and as a result I'd rather not stat them up and just let folks keep using the deformed giants of their choice without worrying we overwrote them. (This is, incidentally, the same reason we called the magus what we did, and not a warlock.)
If you're looking for deformed giants or mutant giants for Pathfinder, the best bet currently are ogrekin for low CR and ash giants for higher CR foes.
Mmm, not to nit-pick, but in the Celtic myths, they ARE deformed giants. Oops, I guess that I am nit-picking...
However, in the sense that the write up in D&D is closed and you'd have to totally reinvent them I suppose that it would be of questionable value to put forth all that effort.
That's not completely true. Elatha and Bres were both considered to be beautiful. And some weren't ugly, they just had animal heads.
I had this post about how to do fomorians justice while keeping to the myths and not infringing on WotC's IP. I made them a bit more akin to nature-spirit titans that are sea marauders. Had the Elathan Fomorian as the highest CR and beautiful with some druid spells, had the Gabor-chind Fomorian as the more rank-and-file fomorians with the goat heads, and an unnamed fomorian that was based on Balor and his ability to poison people with his eye.
Also, if Paizo used this idea, I'd have absolutely no issues with that :)
An Ooze based player race would be too powerful unless you make them vulnerable to crits and maybe mind-affecting effects as well.
I would like to see a plant based player race that can be effected by mind-affecting effects.
I think sky metal creatures in general would be interesting.
I agree Mikaze, Distant Worlds does leave one hungry for more.