Pathfinder Flip-Mat: Thornkeep Dungeons 2-Pack

Announced for January! The product image is a mockup, and will change prior to publication.

Note: This product is not part of any subscription, but Pathfinder Maps subscribers who preorder this set will receive a free PDF edition of this product when the print edition ships. (Note that you will need to have an active Pathfinder Maps subscription at the time this product ships in order to receive the PDF for free.)

People who backed the Pathfinder Online Technology Demo at the $30 level or higher will get the PDF of this product in late October (along with their Thornkeep adventure sourcebook PDF), and backers who pledged at least $100 will be shipped the print edition in January (along with the print edition of the Thornkeep adventure sourcebook and other rewards).

PDF editions of this Flip-Mat 2-pack will be available for sale to the general public upon retail release in January.

Can't wait to see the whole thing!

Also, starting with this release, Flip-Mats will come in new packaging featuring a wraparound sheet with a printed front, spine and back (much like we have for our GM Screen), allowing you to easily identify which Flip-Mat on your bookshelf is which.

Also, starting with this release, Flip-Mats will come in new packaging featuring a wraparound sheet with a printed front, spine and back (much like we have for our GM Screen), allowing you to easily identify which Flip-Mat on your bookshelf is which.

Thank you!

Was this a stretch goal for those who contributed to the PFO Tech Demo?

Yes, we added these as a stretch goal for hitting $250,000.

Will the PDFs be fulfilled through the Paizo site?

Will the PDFs be fulfilled through the Paizo site?

Yes.

Excellent. Still happy I supported the Kickstarter, then :)

The product image is a mockup, and will change prior to publication.

Thanks for saying so, otherwise I would have said "Wait a minute, I recognise that map."

I get this at the $30 level ?

Edit: @Maverick below: PDF is fine with me. I have a color printer and I can cut stuff up that I'd never try with a real flip-mat.

I believe you got the PDF at the $30 level, but you needed to donate $100 to get the actual Flip-Mats.

Also, starting with this release, Flip-Mats will come in new packaging featuring a wraparound sheet with a printed front, spine and back (much like we have for our GM Screen), allowing you to easily identify which Flip-Mat on your bookshelf is which.

It would be nice if we were able to get a sleeve for the previous flip mats we have. It would make the collection 'uniform' and not out of place on the shelf. It would be kind of weird to have cubic feet of previous maps bare, and just a couple with this new treatment. I would probably have to toss the covers just to keep the collection uniform, despite how cool they are. No sense in finding a couple maps at glance, and have 98 percent of the collection still a guess game as to what is what. Just throwing ideas.

Bel.

I agree with Belnor, Even if it were a pdf you could print. I too will wind up tossing the cover to keep things the same have all the rest unidentified would be weird.

I agree with Belnor, Even if it were a pdf you could print.

It shouldn't be that hard for somebody other than Paizo to create a PDF slipcover for each of the older maps. It wouldn't be that much harder to create a fillable PDF.

I don't have the right software myself at present, but that might change in the next couple of weeks.

I'm a backer and can see the book placed in my pending orders. Can I somehow get the flipmats added to the same shipment? I really don't want to pay the 30$ import tax twice ;)

I'm a kickstarter backer and have a notice now this product is in my downloads but unavailable to actually download? I emailed customer service, but just wondering if anyone else is having this problem?

I'm a kickstarter backer and have a notice now this product is in my downloads but unavailable to actually download? I emailed customer service, but just wondering if anyone else is having this problem?

Its happening to everyone... I'm guessing the file isn't uploaded to the server yet

Good to know. Thanks!

Cover image and product description updated to final.
Edit: Sample images added.

Sadly, the Accursed hall will not be a Flip Mat... or will they?

Sadly, the Accursed hall will not be a Flip Mat... or will they?

The Accursed Hall wouldn't fit on a Flip Mat. The scale is 1 square = 10 feet. They're four times the size of a flip mat. (I think the scale is wrong, but a developer has stated its correct)

Looking at the PDF version (and even on these mini preview images, the Paizo Flip-Map Thornkeep logo is printed on the upper left corner. It a few cases, that logo is in the middle of a room/encounter area. That is crazy wrong.

Do we have a retail release date for the print addition yet?

Currently, the estimates are for the end of January (subject to change).

I'm interested in getting this for my home game for an epic dungeon delve, but I need some help assembling them in my mind. Can someone help me put them together?

I see that the middle two images are linked by the blue glowing corridor, but where do the other two images go? Above? Below? Cattywumpus?

Specifically, I see various staircases going up and down, but I do not see where they connect to the other images.

Also, I am assuming that the glowing yellow and green areas are portals. I see where the yellow portals connect, but where does the green portal go to?

Like Ryan, I would also greatly appreciate the occasional map key or suggested encounter text for flip mats that are of such a specific nature. There has been at least one other instance of a (dungeon-style) map where similar questions arose regarding connecting staircases and corridors that span across two sides of a map. There was a suggestion on the Pathfinder Flip-Mat: Battlefield thread regarding the possibility of printing black and white keys or (player developed)encounters on the inside of the new flip-mat cover sleeves that could be used for just such assists. Could be interesting...

Mine all mine...don't touch wrote:

I agree with Belnor, Even if it were a pdf you could print.

It shouldn't be that hard for somebody other than Paizo to create a PDF slipcover for each of the older maps. It wouldn't be that much harder to create a fillable PDF.

I don't have the right software myself at present, but that might change in the next couple of weeks.

I'm a graphic designer and would be willing to custom create some PDF slipcover files based on the existing templates. I assume that I would have to contact someone at Paizo for permission to offer such a service?

You could probably do something like that for free under the Community Use Policy, but you couldn't charge for it or earn a profit.

You guys do realize that these maps have full adventures in this book, right?:

Thornkeep

It seems like that would cover your need for an encounter key...

You could probably do something like that for free under the Community Use Policy, but you couldn't charge for it or earn a profit.

Thanks for the tip Liz. I wouldn't mind doing so, but to do a great job, I would need to know the font used for the titling and have a flattened background template file to lay into place as my shell. Otherwise, folks would have to content themselves with a lesser quality scanned version of it. I guess it would depend on the overall community interest.

You guys do realize that these maps have full adventures in this book, right?:

Thornkeep

It seems like that would cover your need for an encounter key...

Actually, I did realize that Eric, but thanks. :-)

The maps are basically connected by an off-screen stairwell. For a homebrew adventure you could use them in any order that you want. For the Thornkeep adventure I believe they are shown in the order they appear in the module and coincide with the depth of each level, but that is probably not the best order in which to play each level.

Liz Courts wrote:

You could probably do something like that for free under the Community Use Policy, but you couldn't charge for it or earn a profit.

Thanks for the tip Liz. I wouldn't mind doing so, but to do a great job, I would need to know the font used for the titling and have a flattened background template file to lay into place as my shell. Otherwise, folks would have to content themselves with a lesser quality scanned version of it. I guess it would depend on the overall community interest.

Both policies prohibit making any commercial or creative endeavor to be a 100% imitation of our trade dress (how our products look). I do know that Saber is very similar to the font used in the logo (it was used in the Wayfinder logo, for example), but again, you can't make your products look like ours (the specific terms are under the Usage Requirements for the Community Use Policy).

Fenixfyre wrote:

Liz Courts wrote:

You could probably do something like that for free under the Community Use Policy, but you couldn't charge for it or earn a profit.

Thanks for the tip Liz. I wouldn't mind doing so, but to do a great job, I would need to know the font used for the titling and have a flattened background template file to lay into place as my shell. Otherwise, folks would have to content themselves with a lesser quality scanned version of it. I guess it would depend on the overall community interest.

Both policies prohibit making any commercial or creative endeavor to be a 100% imitation of our trade dress (how our products look). I do know that Saber is very similar to the font used in the logo (it was used in the Wayfinder logo, for example), but again, you can't make your products look like ours (the specific terms are under the Usage Requirements for the Community Use Policy).

DOH! My bad for not reading the entire C.U.P. before replying to your comment. I didn't realize that it was against policy to replicate the look & feel of your packaging if it was not for profit. Thanks for pointing that out to me. :-)