| Paul Ryan |
I picked up a couple of copies of the Dragon art book, both the regular and the fancy one, so maybe I'm not a part of the 'normal' demographic of book buyers. I actually buy and enjoy art books.
So I've already pre-ordered. Lets hope this is one which proves that Vic isn't always right about art books. :-P
Dragnmoon
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Zen79 wrote:How about a PDF version?I'm not sure if we've discussed that possibility with Wayne yet. So, no answer at this time.
For me at least, a paper product only for this would mean I would not buy it since I would not be able to use it.
Edit: Though if it is up to Wayne, I doubt it will be a PDF, I have taken pictures of him before at booths and he always requests that is art is not in the picture.
| gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
Zen79 wrote:How about a PDF version?I'm not sure if we've discussed that possibility with Wayne yet. So, no answer at this time.
Whether I pick it up depends partly upon the answer to that question and partly on how it's handled for subscribers.
- If it's handled like the Rise of the Runelords book, I will purchase it the second I discover that information.
- If the PDF is a separate purchase, thus making the cost (for me) the sum of the price of the PDF and the hardcover, it is unlikely that I'll purchase it but it's possible.
- If there is no PDF, it's guaranteed I won't purchase it.
So I've got my fingers crossed.
(The utility cost is just way to high for a cool book that I cannot actually use for anything)
| Mandisa |
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People keep asking for art books, and we keep saying that they don't sell. This may be your one and only chance to prove us wrong on that.
It's all in who you market to. Comics & manga fans love artbooks, especially the lush oversize hardcovers that make great coffee table books (if I trusted drinks anywhere near my artbooks that is).
Personally, I've got an oversize bookshelf full of them, both American/UK/Canadian & Japanese artists, including several imports & softcovers/reissues. Just picked up Echo Chernik's artbook at ConnectiCon this summer, and had it signed and all.
Can't go to GenCon, but if Mr. Reynolds ever makes it to ComicCon in NYC, I'll be happy to wait in line to get this book signed.
And PDF is a great format for text/mixed books, and international shipping is a right bear, but as a collector & (drooling) fan, you're just getting a better piece with an actually designed + (well-)printed artbook. All the colors and paper are picked just-so to bring out the best qualities in the art. If you want desktop wallpapers, just (continue to) offer that as a store blog promo or something.
| Joseph Wilson |
I guess I'm the opposite of some others here in that I would have absolutely no use for a PDF version of a book like this. Kind of surprised by some of the responses so far. Is this a reaction to the proliferation of VTTs and whatnot? (something I don't participate in) To me (as an owner of numerous artbooks), these things are meant to be displayed and enjoyed in all the glorious printed, hardcover glory. Not "used" as sourcebooks?
I guess, in summary, I just don't understand how the availability of a book of this type in pdf is a dealbreaker. To me, the whole point of a book like this is to have it in a nice big hardcover.
To each his own...
Needless to say, I preordered as soon as this became available. :-)
| Legendarius |
This is going to be a really great product, especially if we get a lot of insight into Wayne's style, his influences, and anecdotes and commentary about specific pieces. He's definitely my favorite fantasy artist to come out of the gaming industry in a long time, probably since the years of Caldwell, Elmore and Easley.
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Dragnmoon
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I guess I'm the opposite of some others here in that I would have absolutely no use for a PDF version of a book like this. Kind of surprised by some of the responses so far. Is this a reaction to the proliferation of VTTs and whatnot? (something I don't participate in) To me (as an owner of numerous artbooks), these things are meant to be displayed and enjoyed in all the glorious printed, hardcover glory. Not "used" as sourcebooks?
I guess, in summary, I just don't understand how the availability of a book of this type in pdf is a dealbreaker. To me, the whole point of a book like this is to have it in a nice big hardcover.
To each his own...
Needless to say, I preordered as soon as this became available. :-)
A PDF allows me to use the art in my games as handouts and examples, while a book just sits on my book shelf and collects dust
I have gotten a lot of use of my PDF for that purpose
| gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
gbonehead wrote:Whether I pick it up depends partly upon the answer to that question and partly on how it's handled for subscribers.This is not a Pathfinder product; there is no subscription line that it would fit into.
Which is why I'm hoping it's handled the same way that the Rise of the Runelords hardcover is being handled; it's not part of any subscription, but subscribers who pre-order get the PDF.
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Vic Wertz wrote:Which is why I'm hoping it's handled the same way that the Rise of the Runelords hardcover is being handled; it's not part of any subscription, but subscribers who pre-order get the PDF.gbonehead wrote:Whether I pick it up depends partly upon the answer to that question and partly on how it's handled for subscribers.This is not a Pathfinder product; there is no subscription line that it would fit into.
IIRC it's up to Wayne if there will be a PDF version of this, so we have to wait what and see what he decides.
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Vic Wertz wrote:Which is why I'm hoping it's handled the same way that the Rise of the Runelords hardcover is being handled; it's not part of any subscription, but subscribers who pre-order get the PDF.gbonehead wrote:Whether I pick it up depends partly upon the answer to that question and partly on how it's handled for subscribers.This is not a Pathfinder product; there is no subscription line that it would fit into.
That's the thing: subscribers *to what line*? With the RotR hardcover, the answer is obvious; with this product, not so much.
| Paul Ryan |
That's the thing: subscribers *to what line*? With the RotR hardcover, the answer is obvious; with this product, not so much.
If it wasn't a book, the least illogical might actually be the GameMastery Cards, given that they're providing art items for the buyer's use.
But saying that that's the least illogical subscription I can figure isn't the same as saying it's actually a good fit. And that's still leaving aside the fact it's a book, not individual art pieces on cards.
Personally I'd like a PDF with my pre-order if possible, but if it isn't for whatever reason, I'm fine with just the physical book which is all that was advertised/promised when I made that pre-order. Added: It'd be great IMO if you folks at Paizo decide to add value like a PDF version to the initial book-only pre-order, but it's not something I expect or demand.
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I am with Paul while it might not be part of a subscription line. It would add value to add a PDF to those who preordered it. Since that helps you guys figure out how many to print in the first place. Might encourage more to preorder if that is the only way to get the PDF version.
| gbonehead Owner - House of Books and Games LLC |
gbonehead wrote:That's the thing: subscribers *to what line*? With the RotR hardcover, the answer is obvious; with this product, not so much.Vic Wertz wrote:Which is why I'm hoping it's handled the same way that the Rise of the Runelords hardcover is being handled; it's not part of any subscription, but subscribers who pre-order get the PDF.gbonehead wrote:Whether I pick it up depends partly upon the answer to that question and partly on how it's handled for subscribers.This is not a Pathfinder product; there is no subscription line that it would fit into.
Heheheh. No matter to me .. pick a sub, any sub! :)