Limited Ed. Goblin Faction shirts would be awesome too.
+1!
For the symbol, either a burning torch, a salt shaker, or a dog silhouette with a red circle and slash superimposed on it?
Will there be any info on Hobgoblins in this supplement?
*Mental Image of a T-Shirt with a Torch-Wielding Goblin on the front*
.....*and possibly the words 'Kill it with Fire!' or something funny on it too!*
Do. Want.
'Humans of Golarion.'..'Goblins of Golarion'
Is that the scraping of wood I hear on the bottom of this barrel?
'Humans of Golarion.'..'Goblins of Golarion'
Is that the scraping of wood I hear on the bottom of this barrel?
You'll know we hit the barrel's bottom when we get the 'Flumphs of Golarion' manual. Right now, I call this about 3/4 of the barrel.
well..I don't think I'll be maintaining my Companion subscription past Faiths of Balance so its definitely the bottom of the barrel for me.
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'Humans of Golarion.'..'Goblins of Golarion'
Is that the scraping of wood I hear on the bottom of this barrel?
Since Golarion is humanocentric, and we've got 12 different ethnicities and they're the most common race on the planet... I'd hardly call that barrel scraping.
And since goblins are probably our most POPULAR non-core race, I'd say that now that we've covered all 7 core races, moving on to goblins is more of an experiment to see how interested folks will be in books about non-core races. Also not barrel scraping.
Obviously opinions differ, though! :-)
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'Humans of Golarion.'..'Goblins of Golarion'
Is that the scraping of wood I hear on the bottom of this barrel?
Since Golarion is humanocentric, and we've got 12 different ethnicities and they're the most common race on the planet... I'd hardly call that barrel scraping.
And since goblins are probably our most POPULAR non-core race, I'd say that now that we've covered all 7 core races, moving on to goblins is more of an experiment to see how interested folks will be in books about non-core races. Also not barrel scraping.
Obviously opinions differ, though! :-)
Well yeah cause we still don't have a tieflings book yet and they are far from scraping the bottom of the barrel.
And tengu... and aasimar... and lizardfolk... and gnoll...
'Humans of Golarion.'..'Goblins of Golarion'
Is that the scraping of wood I hear on the bottom of this barrel?
Since Golarion is humanocentric, and we've got 12 different ethnicities and they're the most common race on the planet... I'd hardly call that barrel scraping.
And since goblins are probably our most POPULAR non-core race, I'd say that now that we've covered all 7 core races, moving on to goblins is more of an experiment to see how interested folks will be in books about non-core races. Also not barrel scraping.
Obviously opinions differ, though! :-)
I love the Goblins of Golarion book, and would love to see all the bestiary races get the same kind of love.
My problem is that I have no interest in playing a goblin..my players have no interest in playing goblins..so this book is just going to take up space and money and never get used..unless there's useful stuff for part one of Jade Regent in it.
Well yeah cause we still don't have a tieflings book yet and they are far from scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Well, opinions can differ on that issue. Tieflings, to me, are very close to the bottom of the barrel.
My problem is that I have no interest in playing a goblin..my players have no interest in playing goblins..so this book is just going to take up space and money and never get used..unless there's useful stuff for part one of Jade Regent in it.
More copies for my group then, because we're all chomping at the bit for this book and love playing goblins, and we never all want to the same non-core book.
Will there be stat blocks for standard goblin weapons and armor?
Like Cheese Wheels, french loaves, and your best friend rolled in tar and fireworks then mounted on a cart?
...uncanny...
>Sigh< Haters gonna hate...
how can you hate goblins? they are just full of win and the role-playing options that can come of this would lead to many laughs...or have all of you forget the word fun?
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My problem is that I have no interest in playing a goblin..my players have no interest in playing goblins..so this book is just going to take up space and money and never get used..unless there's useful stuff for part one of Jade Regent in it.
Although the book is in the Player's Companion line... there's a lot of stuff in there that'll also help GMs run ANY adventure with goblins in it. It's as much an ecology/sociology article about goblins as it is anything else. And since there's going to be some goblin stuff in the first Jade Regent adventure... it'll be handy for GMs who want to expand or add depth to the goblin elements in that adventure.
This is also where I point out that even if you only ever read an RPG book and "all" it does is entertain you in the same way that reading a novel or comic or whatever entertains you, then the money you spent on it is hardly wasted. In my opinion... an RPG product doesn't need to actually be used in play to justify its purchase.
This is also where I point out that even if you only ever read an RPG book and "all" it does is entertain you in the same way that reading a novel or comic or whatever entertains you, then the money you spent on it is hardly wasted. In my opinion... an RPG product doesn't need to actually be used in play to justify its purchase.
+1
There is no way I can ever use all the materials I have (though I'm trying my darndest), yet I always enjoy reading them.
I'm just hoping that there will be goblin character traits and favored class options for the little blighters (such as allowing a goblin ranger to have a goblin dog animal companion). They don't even need to be that helpful as long as they fit the goblin's character (say, a trait that give goblins a +1 attack bonus versus dogs and horses, or a trait that grants a +1 to craft (weaponsmithing) as long as the resulting weapon is non-masterwork and breaks on a natural 1 attack roll).
My problem is that I have no interest in playing a goblin..my players have no interest in playing goblins..so this book is just going to take up space and money and never get used..unless there's useful stuff for part one of Jade Regent in it.Although the book is in the Player's Companion line... there's a lot of stuff in there that'll also help GMs run ANY adventure with goblins in it. It's as much an ecology/sociology article about goblins as it is anything else. And since there's going to be some goblin stuff in the first Jade Regent adventure... it'll be handy for GMs who want to expand or add depth to the goblin elements in that adventure.
This is also where I point out that even if you only ever read an RPG book and "all" it does is entertain you in the same way that reading a novel or comic or whatever entertains you, then the money you spent on it is hardly wasted. In my opinion... an RPG product doesn't need to actually be used in play to justify its purchase.
OK that's the answer I was looking for re Jade Regent.Please note that I don't hate this book I just didn't see any utility in it for me and my group.
I forgot the kobold. :)
Me, I'm waiting for the "Gelatinous Cubes of Golarion" book^_^
This is also where I point out that even if you only ever read an RPG book and "all" it does is entertain you in the same way that reading a novel or comic or whatever entertains you, then the money you spent on it is hardly wasted. In my opinion... an RPG product doesn't need to actually be used in play to justify its purchase.
Thank you James. Thank you for this. Though gaming has been very slow for me of late, I have more RPG books than I can shake a stick at. I prefer adventures and campaign setting books over rulebooks (as I love fluff over crunch) and can and do read these books constantly. (I keep getting the damned things in the mail each month, haven't figured out why ;)
Roleplaying games are a hobby for me, but it's not really playing RPGs that is my hobby, it's collecting and reading the books. I do play. I love to play in fact. I'm slowly prepping to run Curse of the Crimson Throne for instance and am chomping at the bit to role up a new character for any game that comes along. But For me the value of the book isn't what its use at the game table, but how enjoyable it is period: at the game table, reading through the first time, looking at the artwork, even the tactile feel of the paper in my hands.
I can respect those that want it for the utility. Playing RPG's only requires an initial investment of some rulebooks honestly, and if you play but don't derive any pleasure from reading the books, then there's no point in having books that won't benefit your game. There always seems to be a quizzical look from those around me that I have waaaay more books than I'll ever use at the game table. It doesn't mean I haven't, and won't use the book. I just won't use them, perhaps, like many other folks.
well..I don't think I'll be maintaining my Companion subscription past Faiths of Balance so its definitely the bottom of the barrel for me.
I think a bigger issue at work here is that we have a clear sight of the products scheduled until Goblins of Golarion - I mean there isn't that much to go til the end. What we need is 4 or so new things in the line-up which will make us crave time passing at an accelerated rate.
lojakz +1
I don't think it's actually possible for me to use everything I ever bought. If I never bought a single thing ever again, I could easily game once a week for the next 30 years. It took me 4 years to run through thetop 3 levels of Undermountain alone and we never hit (or even used) the bottom levels.
Looks like it will be fun to read at least. All it needs is a Troll 2 reference in there somewhere.....
$11 for 32 pages? Really?
$11 for 32 pages? Really?
32 full color detail rich pages, yes indeedy.
$11 for 32 pages? Really?
Well, $9.35 if you're a subscriber.
Also the whole thing with goblins and such being hated smacks of real world racism.
Unless, of course, you're trying to run a simple game where, say, orcs or demons are always evil therefore good characters smack them.
Just sayin.
...uncanny...Will there be stat blocks for standard goblin weapons and armor?
Like Cheese Wheels, french loaves, and your best friend rolled in tar and fireworks then mounted on a cart?
Dat's right...youze guyz get up ona dat wheeliethingy and den I push the superFunBLASTtime buttons and den youze go all WHOOSH and fites the baddiez!
burnburnburn!!!
This is also where I point out that even if you only ever read an RPG book and "all" it does is entertain you in the same way that reading a novel or comic or whatever entertains you, then the money you spent on it is hardly wasted. In my opinion... an RPG product doesn't need to actually be used in play to justify its purchase.+1
There is no way I can ever use all the materials I have (though I'm trying my darndest), yet I always enjoy reading them.
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I enjoy reading a lot about "non-standard" races (the PDFs about giants, minotaurs, and the 'Fursona' one come to mind) and even coming up with characters for them that I know I'll never, ever get to use due to a severe dislike of such things among the few local gamers I've met.
And I've enjoyed virtually everything I've read about Golarion thus far, even if I've barely used it.
... stuff ...
All I'm saying is that before you cry racism, give it a little bit of thought, eh? Or better yet, just don't say it at all.
I see there being two kinds of people in this world. Those who look at things negatively ... at how they can find fault, and those who look at things positively ... at how they can make them work out.
Crying racism because orcs and goblins tend to be evil is very much a negative comment, which is why I said something. In your game, run it the way you want - if you want a complex tapistry of people and races with shades of gray that's probably a wonderful and rich world - but don't imply people are racist just because they want to have simple campaigns and/or obvious villains.
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Eberron had really gotten my hopes up on that front, but then they went and never further developed or detailed those orcs. That was the element that I was most interested in to be honest, and nothing got done with it from what people have told me when I asked around about it. :(I had been hoping for inspiration to use for my own orcs, but c'est la vie...
I know this is MONTHS behind, but I thought I'd plug a bit.
This being my homebrew, wherein:
Orcs are the single most enlightened and lawful race on the planet;
Halflings are prodigious, capitalistic little bastiges with lifespans over a millenium;
Gnomes are newcomers (at least in some eras of play);
Humans are actually descended from odd intermingled mostly-Orcs-with-Human-blood;
Elves are stigmatized highly because of an ancient wager their Patron god made with the Halflings Patron god;
Dwarves are nomadic farmers.
There are Drow, most of them are surfacer hating but a large number have become topsiders themselves and thus are integrating with the other races.
I don't think I've decided whether or not there are goblins, but I know that some parts of the world have 'civilized' Kobolds.
Anyway, that's it for this ramble.
So what sort of material will there be for goblins as player characters?
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So what sort of material will there be for goblins as player characters?
Some feats, some new spells, a few magic items, some new subdomains, some traits, and two pages of coaching on how playing a PC goblin isn't a license to play a disruptive neutral evil cooperation destroyer. :-P
two pages of coaching on how playing a PC goblin isn't a license to play a disruptive neutral evil cooperation destroyer. :-PPure comedy gold there, James.
Funny, I just had a campaign like that. My group is really looking forward to this book. We love the goblins in pathfinder!