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Tonya Woldridge wrote:

Next, let’s talk about the changes to Paizo organized play in general.

1) We have reiterated to all RVCs that the NDA only applies to Paizo business operations, not to individuals or their experiences.

Saying this, even multiple times, in this format, is not binding. Forum-speak does not modify contractual language. Until the NDA is revisited, NDA-based paranoia is subject to continue. Tonya, can we expect the NDA wording to be changed?

Tonya Woldridge wrote:
2) We are spinning up a task force to look at documenting the heretofore-unwritten policies and procedures of being a Venture-Officer. This document, a Venture-Officer Handbook, will be driven by venture-officer input and...

This is not a job for volunteers - this project should be placed squarely in the lap of Organized Play leadership. Alternatively, how about we just treat people well? When people aren't treated well, have an appeals ladder. That's all that's needed.


Theres the medicine subdomain, but...

Be aware the Medicine subdomain has a despicable trait-tax cunningly hidden within the introductory text of the source material. "A domain-using PC can gain access to one of these subdomains via the following faith trait. An NPC does not need such a trait.... Acolyte of Apocrypha (Faith)...." [Divine Anthology - Development Lead: James Jacobs. Authors: Alex Augunas, Russ Brown, John Compton, Alex Riggs, David Ross]


Have you considered playing an evilly aligned Oracle of Life?


Doesnt it potentially undo flesh to stone a level earlier than the traditional stone to flesh?

Also, versatility. It can reverse many effects. Rem curse, for example, only removes curses.

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It's the year I stopped putting ranks in knowledge skills, even on knowledge-heavy classes. The game goes by so much quicker and smoother when you can file the first 33-50% of the game session off and get to the good stuff. It's like skipping the warmup comedian, and getting to the headliner. It's like eliminating wild card playoff games, and only letting those teams that WIN their division play. It's like PFS without commercials. It's like a family picnic without relatives or ants. It's been cathartic. I recommend it - if only for the look on everyones face when your wizard doesnt even roll a die when the knowledge planes check comes up.

I'm 3-for-3 at this strategy not affecting outcomes even one little iota this season. Im loving season nine now that i have adapted my character build style. Its glorious!

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Bob Jonquet wrote:
"Harold Ervin” wrote:
Revenue
To be fair, that is exactly what organized play is. Paizo is a business and their first and foremost goal is to make money. OP is a marketing tool to expand exposure to their products and encourage, even incentify, people to buy them.

QFT.

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What difference does it make if PFS allows unlimited replay? My lodge is looking forward to unlimited replay. Convention play will go extinct. There's no longer need to report games - there never was much of one. If the local player base wants to replay 100 scenarios, so what?

Oh. I get it. Revenue. A player base content to NOT buy the next, big, shiny thing is bad for business. Nevermind. I withdraw the question, Your Honor.


The Battlefield Surgeon trait is tied to the worship of an evil deity, thus might be troublesome in some campaigns.

The Educated Druggist trait buffs the alchemical remedies you hand out, as well as healing 1 hp. A salt tablet is an alchemical remedy and costs 1 sp. You can craft it at 1/3rd price. Thus this trait enables you to heal 1 hp for 0.1 gp, or 1 hp for 0.03 gp. This trait is not PFS legal.

Boots of the Earth received nuclear nerf in FAQ/Campaign Clarifications/Errata/Gods-who-can-keep-up?... though that may be PFS only.

Be aware the Medicine subdomain has a despicable trait-tax cunningly hidden within the introductory text of the source material. "A domain-using PC can gain access to one of these subdomains via the following faith trait. An NPC does not need such a trait.... Acolyte of Apocrypha (Faith)...." [Divine Anthology - Development Lead: James Jacobs. Authors: Alex Augunas, Russ Brown, John Compton, Alex Riggs, David Ross]

Goodberries & Ironbloom Sprouts have the advantage of duration. They can be stockpiled & distributed. While there is an action associated with retrieving a berry in combat, there's no action associated with eating it. Have an unseen servant deliver berries to the wounded.

Purchase an NPC casting of Imbue with spell ability before heading off on your adventure. ~280 gp for an extra CLW, CLW & CMW on your church-sanctioned trip, again with the advantages of portability & duration.

Purchase an "NPC casting" of whatever you want, really, from an NPC alchemist with the infusion discovery. Remember the NPC must be at least CL2 for this, so an extract of CLW 'to go' would cost 20 gp and cure d8+2. Compares favorably to potions of CLW.

To those with Martial Flexibility (Brawlers & imitators), Combat Vigor is a Combat feat. Beyond the scope of this project, but worth noting, so is Restorative Vigor.

I appreciate this thread!


I believe they stack, and make for a lovely alpha strike capability.

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Can we get links to the new Guide to Organized Play and the Faction Cards imbedded into the blog above, ESPECIALLY in light of the paizo.com website face lift.

Thank you.

Edit: After 29 minutes of searching, I found them in the Free Downloads section of PFS, however both items state last updated August 2017.


Again, it's a penalty, not damage, but it could very well be what you're looking for.

Touch of idiocy. I'm partial to using it as a touch based trap. And apply metamagic feats.


3. A titan can sunder a worn gauntlet with hardly a problem. Immediately after having my gauntlet sundered, I can still type 70 wpm, accurately.

Edit: Sunder, the verb, not necessarily Sunder, the game term.

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Slyme wrote:
If you wanted to play a cat person in PFS without needing a boon, how would you go about it?

I have an oracle with the wolf- ..... I mean cat-scarred face curse. How's that work for you?

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Great ideas, guys.

Durable cold iron ammo for those who use ammo, 2 gp ea.

Multiple holy symbols, 1 gp, for those who use them to channel and/or cast spells.

Flask of acid, 10 gp, use vs swarms or loan it to the acid splash caster for +1 damage. Alchemists, you can craft this during downtime and there's no save for half the splash damage on this one, making it situationally better than your bombs.

Dwarven boulder helmet, 20 gp, 10 lbs. +2 AC vs confirm rolls and you threaten adjacent, even if non-proficiently. Beware of the weight.

Smelling salts, 25 gp. Use to question prisoners without blowing healing resources, which could make them combat-viable again, or wake up your one and only healer so they can heal themselves.

Antiplague 50 gp, Antitoxin 50 gp. I should get a discount for the pair as often as I buy the matched set.

Mw manacles, 50 gp. Every party should have one for Small, Medium, and Large. Add locks. Add sovereign glue to the locking mechanism afterwards for particularly troublesome prisoners.

Diplomacy-challenged? Crystal-sweet concoction, 50 gp.

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Oops, found some more on the floor...

Second Darkness et al sanctioning.

DM PCs get Day Job rolls.

No more nuclear nerf! (Jingasa et al)

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Modify No-Replay. I believe an expiration date is the way to go. Allow replay every 2? years. Most of us already keep up with scenarios played/GMd with a checkbox system of some sort. It would be negligible additional effort to keep tally with a date instead. I will concede this has been discussed at length in other threads and this thread should not be derailed with a lengthy discussion on any one topic.

Change restriction to applying credit from a higher level scenario from level 1 pcs to level 1-2 pcs. Agreed. Credit to Dan Armstrong.

Update Season Zero scenarios. Update First Steps II, First Steps III and other retired scenarios. Credit Hillis Mallory II for the basic idea.

I'm intrigued by the option to report non-permanent PC death as well. Credit GM Lamplighter. But only if we get to see the results! [See next]

Publish the results of polls. Publish the results of scenarios. I'd like to know how many people have played The Golemworks Incident, for example, how many have died and how many achieved primary & secondary success conditions, if applicable.

Scenario maps always on the 90 degrees. Arbitrarily hard to free-hand rooms should be the exception. Credit BNW & Dan Armstrong. And well-answered by Thursty, but I stand by my request. Minimizing the occurence of oddball rooms minimizes prep time. A good thing.

Devote significant staff time (two weeks annually?) to resolving FAQs. Video Conference Calls are a thing. You needn't be all in the same room, same time zone or same hemisphere. Vacations happen. 75% of staff present is a respectable quorum. It can be done.

When writing scenarios, limit access to the thesaurus - DM prep should not include oral yoga to get through the introduction. Proper names need not be multisyllabic monstrosities. Michael, Jorge, Paolo, Sven, Mufasa, Barry, Jessica, Margo, Monique, Clara, Dee, Shar and Zella are all fine, multi-cultural names. Then lower the length requirement for scenarios. These go hand in hand. Lower the word count/length requirement so word bloat, bizarre naming trends and vocabulary vomit is not required. And more trees may survive.

Enough with the overuse of the skill check - Despite the publishing of the Investigator class, I'm generally not here to play Sherlock Holmes. Maybe two meaningful skill checks for background information during mission briefing, but make them useful - "Yes, with that knowledge planes 35, you can be certain there's an Erinyes active in the area. Not the sterilized "I got a 35. Oh, well, a black feather has been found with a strange odor." Maybe two skill checks for gathering information. Done. This goes for Chase Scenes, reverse-Chases and other arbitrarily contrived skill challenges - so many of these could be resolved with an arrow to the knee. If I wanted to negotiate trade treaties I'd play Lawyers and Lobbyists. If I wanted to waste d4 hours getting directions to 'a pizza place in NYC with a pool hall, frequented by Ted the Informant on Tuesdays after 5:00, unless its his mothers birthday - get there early, parking is a nightmare', I'd stick to RL challenges. PFS, the corporation, will be a ton more efficient once it starts using its resources better. Get those answers with divs prior to scenario & give them to the Agents. Seriously! A divination is, what, 280 gp for an NPC spellcaster? Perhaps less if you keep them on retainer? What does replacing an agent cost? What does replacing a shanked VC cost [the fictional ones, not the RL VCs!]? Move on to smashing faces. 16+ scenarios a season worth of smashing face! Yes!

More overt labeling of scenarios: "Good aligned characters may have a hard time with this." "While other strategies are accounted for, this scenario was written with stealth in mind." "Harold don't bother with this one. Too much RP; hardly any combat. We apologize." Stuff like that would be lovely.

And now that we've shaved GM prep time, avoided unnecessary skill checks, and guided people to picking out characters appropriate for the mission, we can devote more time to battle. Since we have more time for battles, give NPCs max hp at first level, and FCB.

Less haunts. Zero would be ideal. I've never enjoyed an encounter with them, either as player or GM. The only joy they provide is taking a permanent black marker and redacting them from every random encounter table in the evergreens. A haunt could be better represented by build-a-ghost.

Less prep time investment for Specials. Players should not be punished for finishing a wave of monsters by another wave of monsters, without a commiserate increase in reward.

While I enjoy the idea of the faction cards, I really don't enjoy factions at all. Ceasing faction missions was a decision I applauded. I have enough factions to deal with RL. One PFS is plenty for me.

Zero!!! delay between product release and Additional Resources update. Your retailers deserve this. Your players deserve this. Credit Shaventalz, but I've been praying for this for well over a year. While we're on the subject... HEY PAIZO, CONVENTION SEASON IS COMING UP! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR HOW HARD IS ON YOU GUYS. IT DOES NOT SNEAK UP ON YOU. THIS IS A SELF-INFLICTED SITUATION - PREPARE BETTER! YOU HAVE PLENTY OF NOTICE! QYB.

And I'd like to end with a positive ... My players and I are really enjoying the 3-7 Evergreens. They have just enough story. They are challenging. They are appropriately rewarding. Please continue. Thank you.


One of our younger PFS players was really struggling to be effective with his alchemist through a combination of inexperience, rules glut, math/ADD-like symptoms and high expectations. To smooth out the learning curve for him, I created a dragonblood chymist, a simpler alchemist.

http://archivesofnethys.com/ArchetypeDisplay.aspx?FixedName=Alchemist Dragonblood Chymist

This archetype gives up Throw Anything, and all its bombs are forevermore a 15' cone of fire, Ref half. No more attack rolls, scatter diagrams, or calculating splash damage. This greatly simplified the character for the poor kid.

The problem arose when I went to flesh out the rest of the character and plan its progression.

There are no feats available to help out that bomb/breath weapon.
Ability Focus is not PFS legal. I ended up taking Blind-fight of all things at first level just to leverage the use of smokesticks he's going to craft & hold in front of his face when he breathes fire.

He cannot take any other discovery to alter his bomb/breath weapon, so he's stuck with a 15' cone of fire ...for life.
He cannot take any other discovery in the mutagen line.
He does not add INT to splash weapons other than his bombs, so he's not much of a chemist/chymist.
No PFS legal FCB added to mutagen duration.

While the result may be good for the initial purposes of helping a kid, I think I found something TOO vanilla. So ... what have I missed? What can be done to help this archetype grow just a little bit? An ability to change the element from fire to...? change the area of effect from 15' cone to .....? improve its special mutagen, if only the duration?


Perfect Tommy wrote:
Nothing in pathfinder that I can find says orcs have any sight other than darksight. Not darksight as a complement to normal vision - only darksight.

Methinks orcs archers everywhere would beg to differ, else they would be blind, thus ineffective, beyond their darkvision range, even in broad daylight.

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There are some multi-potions on PFS chronicle sheets.

I believe they use the "+50% to the lower-priced property" pricing algorithm.

Eg: Potion of cure moderate CL 3 + mage armor CL 1
300 gp + (50 gp * 150%) = 375 gp.


Without commenting on the viability of the combo, as I'm away from resources.....

Vital strike with a bomb is merely +1d6.


Perfect Tommy wrote:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2uh49?How-does-the-Dusk-lantern-work

Thanks. I searched first, really I did.

It saddens me that the orc guard can still see the lantern wielder.


Adventurer's Armory 2 has given us this piece of mundane equipment that, for 35 gp, 4 lbs and a flask of oil, gives us a light source that is "imperceptible to creatures relying on darkvision as their sole form of sight."

So my sneak-types can finally creep up on the ghouls & orcs in their lair. Cool..... wait.... SOLE form of sight? Orcs & ghouls have darkvision, but they don't have ONLY darkvision. Nothing has ONLY darkvision, right?

Does anything meet the criteria of "relying on darkvision as their sole form of sight"? Surely I've missed something? Or is this item a waste of ink and word-count?


There is no Plausible Deniability clause in the Paladin code.

To repurpose a popular billboard here in the South...

What part of Thou Shalt Not didn't you understand? --God.

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GM Lamplighter wrote:

...In my experience, the GMs who want to make changes to improve the scenario don't always turn the game from a 12 to an 18. Often, they're turning the game from a 12 to a 10 for the players, and an 18 for themselves. And yes, PFS works to prevent that, with no apologies.

I'm sorry, I'm going to need a reference point. What the heck kind of scale are you talking about where 18 seems to be the top end?


Tim Emrick wrote:
DRD1812 wrote:
"Urgraz acquired an oversized crossbow from an especially well-equipped cave giant that he could only fire by putting it down and then using his innate enlarge person ability."
Now that's just brilliant design!

I'ma just leave this here.

http://archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Iron Lord's Transforming Slivers


ZenithTN, can you clear up who knew what for us, players & characters?

Nope.


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In a recent PFS game, we had what may be the fastest Paladin fall from grace.

Situation: Evergreen scenario, all first level characters.

In the first battle, our PCs were separated from the hostiles by running water and someone on our side had tripped a trap that shot a poisoned dart at us, but missed. The dart was not destroyed.

Paladin, with no readily apparent way across the water, and without the forethought to pocket a sling or buy some javelins, asks for suggestions.
Cleric of Trickery suggests the Pally pick up that dart and throw it back. Paladin does so and falls from grace, having used poison. On his very first attack roll ever.

Cleric player overjoyed. Pally player briefly bummed until reminded of PFS rebuild rules. Good time ultimately had by all.

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Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


...has lost track of scenarios where "Mooks R Us" sends a team to assault the party and the first words out of the diplomancer are "How much were you being paid for this? We'll triple it if you lay low for a few days."

Funny... once.

However, thankfully, diplomacy [usually] takes a minute, not a mere combat action.


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GM Niles wrote:
RIP Philly's Season

Doubt it. Your #2 is pretty good.


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Avoron wrote:
ekibus wrote:
Wow that is nice... probably won't be allowed in pfs :p
No, no, I'm sure they'll allow it. The hexes will just be usable once per day, with an effective witch level of zero.

But we won't know until July, 2018.... because, y'know Gencon is right around the corner.


"Issues such as Kobold Quarterly 21 and Kobold Quarterly 23 even feature content sanctioned for use in Pathfinder Society Organized Play"

Kobold Quarterly 21 does not appear under Additional Content.
Ref: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/rpg/additional

Please verify & elaborate. What content does it contain that is sanctioned for PFS?

Thank you.


Cold iron dagger, 4 gp. Two damage types, can be thrown.

Cold iron spiked gauntlet, 10 gp. Always handy, pardon the pun.

Alchemical silver light mace, 25 gp.
Alchemical silver light hammer, 21 gp, though martial, has the added advantages of being throwable and ...well.. it's a hammer!

Durable cold iron arrow (or any ammo really), 2 gp each, PFS-craftable by Alchemists/Investigators. Not destroyed on a hit, unless you hit something like a caryatid column or they're caught in a subsequent 15 hp burning hands.

Adamantine weapon blanch, 100 gp, PFS-craftable & can be given away to carry over into succeeding PFS scenarios. Bake onto ten pieces of ammo. Lasts until you score a hit. Bake onto durable cold iron ammo, and it'll count as both adamantine and cold iron for the first hit. Many ammo types can be used as an improvised weapon. Important note: does NOT bypass hardness like true adamantine.

I do not know why silver has a -1 damage for P/S. Other legacy items were changed to suit Paizo. This should have been dropped. Wood (e.g. club, wooden stake) doesn't have a damage penalty for being softer-than-steel, why should silver? We are assumed to sharpen our steel weapons between encounters, and they don't lose effectiveness, why not the silver ones? It's an annoying piece of trivia, not worth the word-count of printing it. That being said, I have a character saving up for a tiny alchemical silver sap +1 of spell storing, intending to store cure serious wounds in it and whack allies in need of whacking.


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... because, sadly in many cases, closure is anathema to writing.


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tonyz wrote:
Hexblades.

I miss them too, but you can work with a Hex Magus chassis and get the flavor I want.


graystone wrote:
Grumbaki wrote:
Spell resistance by itself is just nice.
I've always found it to be not nice. It's a standard action to drop it to allow spells to work on you. This means no heals/buffs unless you don't attack. For me, it hurts as much as it helps.

Plus, that inevitable day when you get caught unawares / roll pitifully and get knocked to -8 Hp and fading fast.... best of luck to your buddy getting that wand of CLW to work on you.


I didn't tally the wealth, but I think you'd be pleased with Dragon's Demand. The whole premise is going to A, B, C & D in order to gather magic goodies with which to combat the known end-boss, a dragon.


Dude.... that's a 46-point-buy-equivalent character. Of course you're going to crush face.


Yes, you can target attended items, though it is often suboptimal, as energy attacks do half damage to objects, and once the one saved for one of the attacks, he maybe considered to have saved vs. all of them. Debateable.


ZenithTN wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks this layout is sub-optimal?

Please format this product:
Top of page: Faction Rewards.
Bottom of page: Faction check boxes. At your option, this section an be upside down.

This way I can kill HALF as many trees, printing one page, not two, when I desire to print a card for a character.

Thank you.

The full page layout is greatly appreciated. Thank you.


Am I the only one who thinks this layout is sub-optimal?

Please format this product:
Top of page: Faction Rewards.
Bottom of page: Faction check boxes. At your option, this section an be upside down.

This way I can kill HALF as many trees, printing one page, not two, when I desire to print a card for a character.

Thank you.


Slow (preferably vs multiples) + hold person / monster on someone who failed the save vs. Slow.


An illusion where a fake version of you walks into the room to soak up the alpha strike?

Or turn the closed door invisible, such that there is line of sight, but not line of effect?

Readied action to break line of sight or line of effect? The humble obscuring mist should work?

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Haladir wrote:
Harold Ervin wrote:
Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
Might you be able to take a Venture Lieutenant position? You'd be able to join the content review task force and help make sure the reviews are of the best quality and finished in a timely manner.
Thank you for the offer, but no thank you.
I'm just going to point out that you wrote a very long post criticising the quality and timeliness of work by the staff and volunteers, but when asked to step up and help them out, you said "no."

Questioning is not the same as criticizing.

"How'd you make that sculpture? How much did you pay for the materials? What colors could you make it in? What sizes could you make it in? Could you make it faster if I paid more?" does not equate to "Your sculpture sucks!" And asking these questions does not make me a sculptor.

As for my reasons, as HMM pointed out (thank you), I already serve Paizo in a volunteer capacity. I'm a venture agent with responsibility for two stores, shared with another person. Our region consistently overfills a table on a weeknight, make a table on Saturday nights, add on games on holidays (e.g. 4th of July was a full length module), and special events (e.g. Free RPG Day). I'm active with the local convention. I post & report a majority of our games. I share my resources (maps, minis, battlemats, scenario prep, etc.). We're grooming new GMs. Without a VC. I've served Paizo long enough to log nearly 200 tables GM credit. I have a very large library of hard product (By choice, I'm not much of a .pdf guy). I think I'm doing my part. So when I declined the offer extended by VL Steven, on PFS' terms, you'll just have to forgive me. My plate isn't full, but it's full enough that the remainder of my free time is not free of charge. If you think that decision undermines my passion for, or investment in the subject, you are mistaken.

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Steven Schopmeyer wrote:
Might you be able to take a Venture Lieutenant position? You'd be able to join the content review task force and help make sure the reviews are of the best quality and finished in a timely manner.

Thank you for the offer, but no thank you.

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John Compton wrote:
Harold Ervin wrote:

If updating Additional Resources were a priority:

Vetting teams would receive product well in advance of product release.
Vetting teams would finish the process in advance of product release.
And, AR would be updated on day of product release.

The timely updating of Additional Resources is clearly not a Paizo priority. I guess they don't realize (yet) the effect it has on revenue. Or perhaps revenue has fallen, and they've misidentified the fix as More Product! instead of more quality support for the product you already have?

I'll put my efforts where my mouth is on this too... I'm a VA, 4.99 star GM and experienced player. I've signed a NDA. Send me a preview when you send it off to the printer, at least two weeks before release date, starting with the next product to go to printer. I'll review product for you, sending my final report prior to release date, for the price of one hard copy of every product I review.
Get four-to-six folks like me, you're out maybe $300 for a fat hardback, $90 for six copies of a splat book, plus shipping, but we'll get AR back in line. PFS Leadership can compile the six opinions... send out last minute queries on contentious subjects, make the final calls, spiffy up the formatting and send it off to the Web team. Say it takes me two hours to review & write up a splat book, and I net a $15 booklet for my labor & expertise. That's WELL below my vocational rate. I consider it a bargain for Paizo.

Hi Harold,

A robust team of volunteers helps Linda and me vet new products with Pathfinder Society in mind. They receive the product well in advance, they create and observe deadlines to provide us feedback, and they're consistently thorough in their reviews. Much like you've observed, that process then goes through Linda and me, the difference being that we're also reading all of the new rules and including the team's feedback in our assessment. Minus the solid time commitment, it's a good process, and I very much appreciate the help from...

Hi John,

I understand you appreciate the volunteers. I do too. Any vetting of product for AR is better than no vetting of product for AR. This doesn't change the fact that AR updates are unacceptably slow, costing Paizo sales, costing you salary increases, forces VOs/VAs to repeatedly explain and apologize to potential new players, and costing us game store shelf space to the next big thing. It hurts Paizo. Your stepping up to defend the robust volunteers at least tells me that you acknowledge a problem. Thank you.

To fix a problem, after acknowledging a problem exists, one must identify the problem(s). You've spoken for the review team, but stopped short of identifying any problem with the AR review process. I notice you haven't addressed what happens downstream from PFS Leadership. Part of me wants to read that as damning by faint, or absent, praise, or maybe it's out of your area of expertise, but I'll work with what you've given me.

How many is "a robust team"? Is it a sufficient quantity to cover life-events, conventions and plain old burnout? How often is a fresh mind added to this robust team? Is it a lifetime appointment? What level of literacy and game mastery is represented? Do they communicate efficiently among the team and with leadership? I understand the definition of volunteer, but you cannot deny a motivated worker is a better worker. Red Cross volunteers get a t-shirt. Habitat for Humanity volunteers get coffee and donuts. What's the robust compensation for this robust team? I perceive a polite "No thank you" to my offer to join the AR team. Is it because I require even minimal compensation for my effort, while the team actually receives nothing? That's not conducive to best effort. Give them Some Thing tangible - something more than a first draft pdf. Please.

How far in advance is "well in advance"? Is it time to reconsider the definition of "well in advance"? Can the volunteer team receive the product earlier?

"They create and observe deadlines". Deadlines should be mandated by product release, not the volunteers. Or perhaps Leadership isn't holding volunteers accountable? Why are the volunteers creating deadlines? "Observe" is a peculiar word choice too. One can observe a Stop sign while choosing to ignore it. 'Adheres to' or 'Meets deadlines' would be more meaningful goals/praise for this team.

"They're consistently thorough in their reviews." This is empty praise also. It does not speak to quality of results. A batter leading the league in strikeouts may have the biggest backswing in the league - consistently thorough in his swing; he's still not getting base hits. Quality of results trumps quality of effort. Does the PFS Leadership step of the process take too long because we need higher quality work from the Volunteer team?

"It's a good process"... The parts of it you've addressed may be good process. It may need minor tweaks. Or it may be due an overhaul. The reviewer team may need expanding, contraction, compensation, more effective leadership, earlier access to product, or rotation of fresh staff. Release schedule should be driving the deadlines. Leadership may need more time, or higher quality reviews to be fed to them, or more staff for their part. Web team may need more time, easier tools with which to work, or more staff for their part.

Again, thank you for acknowledging a problem with unacceptably slow Additional Resources. Please don't stop there.


Tim Emrick wrote:
In 3.5, I had a fighter who collected holy symbols and religious texts. He honored a handful of gods rather than a single patron, so acquired silver (or better) versions of those symbols as early on as he could afford them.

I like this foible. Mind if I bolt it onto a character?

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Ok, so what are the results of this player survey?


My obese wizard carries a sturdy chair instead of the iconic quarterstaff. Enter room. No fight? Have a seat & wheeze while everyone searches every nook. Contribute with Detect magic, Mage hand, etc.


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71. Ask them to spell 'offering'.

**** Venture-Agent, Tennessee—Chattanooga aka ZenithTN

Tiwaz, welcome to PFS. It is an enjoyable recreation, despite its flaws.

As others have stated, Additional Resources has been dreadfully slow to update for quite some time now. There's also a (perceived?) history of bait & switch, where a powerful / flavorful / appropriate / useful bit is published, helping drive sales of a product, only to not receive PFS approval, or worse, receive retro-nerfing-into-uselessness or banning. Sadly, in response, I recommend not making a purchase until the product has been posted to Additional Resources. Even then, buyer beware.

Paizo, the Gen Con excuse seems like a self-inflicted wound to me. I do not sympathize. I'd hate to wait a year for it, but if Gen Con is such a problem, consider skipping it next year to get caught up on the backlog of consumer issues? Perhaps a lesser solution is leaving some decision makers at the office to get work done.

Still Waiting Patiently wrote:
...the last update happened on a Saturday, and that tells me that it was likely a "this is a task I can do when people won't interrupt me" sort of thing.

This supports leaving some decision makers at the mother ship during convention season.

Manpower shortage, of this duration, also seems like a self-inflicted wound. I wish I had the search-fu to find the promises of Starfinder not being an anchor around the neck of PFS. I thought Paizo was delusional at the time for declaring it. Again, thanks for what you do, but no sympathy. Hire people.

RSX Raver wrote:

I personally think 4 updates a year to the AR page is unacceptable for a company. If they are struggling to meet their consumers' needs due to insufficient resources, then Paizo needs to hire more resources. And this is not the first time we heard that the web team has more tasks then man hours to do in a timely fashion. This problem is a Paizo issue, not a campaign leadership fault or the fault of the web team.

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However as a customer who spends a lot of money with Paizo as a company (Books, Minis, APs, Scenarios, etc.) I feel you guys can do better and probably need more resources to do so.

Agreed.

If more resources cannot be obtained, then publishing overreach should be curtailed. Cut back on the publishing schedule until staffing catches up.

If updating Additional Resources were a priority:
Vetting teams would receive product well in advance of product release.
Vetting teams would finish the process in advance of product release.
And, AR would be updated on day of product release.

The timely updating of Additional Resources is clearly not a Paizo priority. I guess they don't realize (yet) the effect it has on revenue. Or perhaps revenue has fallen, and they've misidentified the fix as More Product! instead of more quality support for the product you already have?

Addendum:
I'll put my efforts where my mouth is on this too... I'm a VA, 4.99 star GM and experienced player. I've signed a NDA. Send me a preview when you send it off to the printer, at least two weeks before release date, starting with the next product to go to printer. I'll review product for you, sending my final report prior to release date, for the price of one hard copy of every product I review.
Get four-to-six folks like me, you're out maybe $300 for a fat hardback, $90 for six copies of a splat book, plus shipping, but we'll get AR back in line. PFS Leadership can compile the six opinions... send out last minute queries on contentious subjects, make the final calls, spiffy up the formatting and send it off to the Web team. Say it takes me two hours to review & write up a splat book, and I net a $15 booklet for my labor & expertise. That's WELL below my vocational rate. I consider it a bargain for Paizo.

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