What IS that thing on the cover??
The final cover's giving me flashbacks of this song...
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Idle speculation time. I'm going to spoiler tag the whole thing, just in case.
** spoiler omitted **
Idle speculation over!
Idle response time!
Yup; they're skum. The thing on the cover is a skum, in fact. Skum are really what we're using for our deep one analogues anyway; they pretty much do the exact same thing and fill the exact same role. They sub in for kuo-toa well also.
As for the skum in this adventure... let's just say that they're not the normal lawful evil aboleth minion type...
It will likely NOT have stats for Cthulhu, though—we don't have our epic rules worked out yet, and we'd need them to stat up something like a Great Old One.
How hard can it be to work up stats for Cthulhu?
"Cthulhu attacks!" "What happens?" "You go insane. Then Cthulhu eats you. The end."
That said, I am really looking forward to this book; you can never have too much cuddly Lovecraftian creepiness in my fantasy games. But that cover art -- what is that, Marlon Brando as a Deep One?
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Chief Technical Officer
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Will there be an option to pick this up at Paizocon?
Assuming everything arrives from the printer on time, our intent is to allow subscribers to pick up their June shipments at PaizoCon, and non-subscribers will be able to buy the new releases there as well.
We'll be formally announcing the PaizoCon convention pickup option shortly after the May subscription shipments go out.
It will likely NOT have stats for Cthulhu, though—we don't have our epic rules worked out yet, and we'd need them to stat up something like a Great Old One.How hard can it be to work up stats for Cthulhu?
"Cthulhu attacks!" "What happens?" "You go insane. Then Cthulhu eats you. The end."
Don't forget the 1d4 investigators he kills per round.
Giant......bestiary.....sweeeeeeeeet.
A giant beastiary! will it have a larger page count for this "giant" beastiary?
A giant beastiary! will it have a larger page count for this "giant" beastiary?
Instead of 2 support articles and a bestiary, this issue has 1 support article and an extra large bestiary.
How easy is it to interconnect this adventure with Carrion Hill?
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There's a half-page of advice in this volume that covers exactly that topic.Cool. Any chance we'll learn something more about what lurks beneath Carrion Hill? I know the town was originally slated to appear in "Rule of Fear," but was cut for space. I'm hoping that information will eventually surface elsewhere.
Nope; not really much more to reveal about what's under Carrion Hill at this point.
I just looked over a portion of the pdf from Broken Moon giving teasers for this volumes and I almost had a heart attack with pure; evil joy!
Dark Young, Mi-Go, Dimensional Shamblers, Spawn of Cthulhu + 7 more Lovecraft monsters in Pathfinder stats!
Info on the Cults of old ones!
And you say there will be info to tie this into Carrion Hill!?!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty sure Deep ones are covered somewhere as well...
Ghouls/Ghasts you could probably use straight out of the current books with an appearance change.
Gotta say, this AP looks like something I have to get and I Hastur get Pt 4 at the minimum.
It's a great list -- but no offense, weren't the Spiders of Leng basically just your everyday Colossal Monstrous Spiders?Thanks everyone for compiling this list. Too bad all of these are fairly low on my to-buy list (other than the Bestiary, which I already own), but I'll certainly pick them up at some point in the future.For those interested Paizo have published the following Chtonic monsters that I can remember:
PF #4 - Hounds of Tindalos
PF #6 - Denizens of Leng
PF #11 - Gugs
Bestiary - Shoggoths, possibly othersPF #10 also has a horrific beastie from beyond human ken, but I'm not sure if it's specifically something Lovecraft wrote.
Denizen of Leng - Bestiary 2 page #82
Gug - Bestiary 2 page #151
Hound of Tindalos - Bestiary 2 page #158
Leng Spider - Bestiary 2 page #176
Serpent People - Bestiary 2 page #242
Shantak - Bestiary 2 page #244
The Qlippoth look Lovecraft inspired as well. Bestiary 2 is quite the pleaser.
It's been said already but Skum are the equivalents of Deep Ones in Pathfinder.
I imagine the old Call of Cthulhu D20 book had Deep Ones listed as such but that's not a Paizo book.
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I imagine the old Call of Cthulhu D20 book had Deep Ones listed as such but that's not a Paizo book.Well Cthulhu d20 was based of of d20 modern/3.0, so those stats could all stand a bit of a revision.
Actually... you have it reversed.
d20 Modern was based on Cthulhu d20.
Cthulhu d20 was the first non D&D game that WotC tried out—they chose CoC intentionally because it's such a different game than D&D that if they could pull it off, it'd be proof that the d20 system was super-robust and capable of doing anything.
d20 Modern came out some time thereafter.
I remember building my own post-apocalyptic RPG using the d20 rules at about the same time they were building CoC d20—I initially used 3.0 for my game, but when Cthulhu d20 came out I adapted my game to use its rules. Then I adapted it again to work with d20 Modern. And when 3.5 came out, I switched back, since I still think those rules were the most elegant of them all.
Actually, that's not true today. I think Pathfinder's the most elegant incarnation of those rules. And yes, I've updated my post-apocalyptic RPG "Unspeakable Futures" to be Pathfinder now—six folks get to try it out in a few weeks at PaizoCon, in fact.
And when do we get to see it in print James?
It's coming soon I hope, The pdf of Broken Moon isn't doing much for me. I'll be reading it cover to cover as I usually do, but out of all the books in the Carrion Crown AP this is the one I'm looking forward to the most. But I'm an old Lovecraft fan so that's no surprise.
I can't wait. I am consoling myself with a lovely little song while I wait. (For those of you suspicious already, it is not the song about fishmen. Well, not that song about fishmen; it's another one.) :)
I remember building my own post-apocalyptic RPG using the d20 rules at about the same time they were building CoC d20—I initially used 3.0 for my game, but when Cthulhu d20 came out I adapted my game to use its rules. Then I adapted it again to work with d20 Modern. And when 3.5 came out, I switched back, since I still think those rules were the most elegant of them all.Actually, that's not true today. I think Pathfinder's the most elegant incarnation of those rules. And yes, I've updated my post-apocalyptic RPG "Unspeakable Futures" to be Pathfinder now—six folks get to try it out in a few weeks at PaizoCon, in fact.
I love Pathfinder, but I've always wanted to try a version of CoC d20 using the character classes from the Trinity Universe d20 books and their associated 'background feats' (which are, in themselves, an adaption of the Storyteller system version of the Trinity Universe books).
oh this is gonna end badly for my players....
I love Pathfinder, but I've always wanted to try a version of CoC d20 using the character classes from the Trinity Universe d20 books and their associated 'background feats' (which are, in themselves, an adaption of the Storyteller system version of the Trinity Universe books).
You should give Delta Green a try. Every time I ran that game, my players died by the end of my campaign. the intro to the next group of players was usually them cleaning up something unspeakable left behind by their previous characters.
mind you, the time they killed a gibbering mouther-like critter by using two kilos of cocaine as a bomb was interesting enough...but obliterating a shape shifting assasin by using a zombie serum was sheer brilliance.
There is an actual PF write up of deep ones using the name 'deep ones' somewhere... cant recall where I saw it though...
IIRC, the 20th level "capstone" of the sorcerer's Aquatic bloodline in Advanced Players' Guide is called "Deep One" -- could that be what you're thinking of?
Cheers, JohnH / Wanda
I imagine the old Call of Cthulhu D20 book had Deep Ones listed as such but that's not a Paizo book.Well Cthulhu d20 was based of of d20 modern/3.0, so those stats could all stand a bit of a revision.
Actually... you have it reversed.
d20 Modern was based on Cthulhu d20.
Cthulhu d20 was the first non D&D game that WotC tried out—they chose CoC intentionally because it's such a different game than D&D that if they could pull it off, it'd be proof that the d20 system was super-robust and capable of doing anything.
d20 Modern came out some time thereafter.
I remember building my own post-apocalyptic RPG using the d20 rules at about the same time they were building CoC d20—I initially used 3.0 for my game, but when Cthulhu d20 came out I adapted my game to use its rules. Then I adapted it again to work with d20 Modern. And when 3.5 came out, I switched back, since I still think those rules were the most elegant of them all.
Actually, that's not true today. I think Pathfinder's the most elegant incarnation of those rules. And yes, I've updated my post-apocalyptic RPG "Unspeakable Futures" to be Pathfinder now—six folks get to try it out in a few weeks at PaizoCon, in fact.
I still have my books for D20 Modern. I could probably use the two together without much fuss.
I'm going to have to do this module up right when I run this. I have a friend I'm running through this who loves Lovecraft. He finds every movie based on Lovecraft. Enjoys the stories. And is a big Lovecraft fan. I'll have to make sure to make this module memorable.
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Chief Technical Officer
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Are this month's orders being shipped normally to those not attending Paizocon? I ask because by now I expected to see a "PDF Will Be Available on [Date]" listed for June's products (rather than the "Preorder expected mid-June 2011" that's listed now).
They will be shipped normally; we just haven't put the final shipping schedule into the system (we're waiting to find out whether the Chase Cards are going to make this shipment or the next).
How easy is it to interconnect this adventure with Carrion Hill?There's a half-page of advice in this volume that covers exactly that topic.
Fantastic. I'm deliberately plotting this AP out for Slow XP progression instead of normal just to add in other details and stories and Carrion Hill is something I especially want to include when I run this for my group.
the more I think about it, the more excited I am to get my copy of this book. I'm running Kingmaker right now, and the players...actually, one sec, i'll make this a spoiler:
they just cleared Candlemere island and went kind of bonkers when the Druid (who was the only one who spoke Aklo) found the inscriptions to Yog-Sothoth inscribed in the foundations of the tower. I also altered the island in my campaign and put a Hound of Tindalos in a short dungeon I'd created for the site. One of the players expressed an interest in summoning/binding lovecraftian creatures based on some old books/scrolls they found in the Hound's lair.
Email!
yup.
Alright, I know I'm probably going to catch hell for asking this, but why is Cthulu always regarded as the end-all-be-all ultimate evil and grand terror of Lovecraft? Frankly, I was a bit bored by the actual "Call of Cthulu" story, and I thought some of his most chilling tales were the ones written before the whole Cthulu Mythos.