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I have a pathfinder chronicles subscription, but this pdf isn't available in my downloads section. Are you guys getting copies early because you're all contributors, or do I need to contact tech support?
-Ken
As others have said it takes a few days till everyone gets theirs. It seems pretty random on the order unless you have a rare order aka non standard stuff coming in your order. That puts you near the back which is where I am this time... again. So I doubt I see mine till tomorrow or maybe not even till Monday.
Well, if you're lucky they can get the problem fixed by then....
I've seen a few threads in the customer service area in regards to the issues. It seems that folks are having to either redownload the PDF or reinstall Adobe, but it's been successful in clearing the issue for most of the folks it seems.
Apparently (and sadly), I'm not dialed in as a contributor who can download a PDF copy. And my developer is somewhere in "snowy" Colorado. Anyone at Paizo capable of hooking a brother up? Please?
Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games
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I DLed this and scanned through it, and went to read the section I did cuz it's always interesting to see what happens during editing. The lead art piece for Lambreth is terrific; I LOVE it.
Sadly, however, I realized that I apparently forgot to send in a little 100-word thumbnail blurb to go on that front cover page, so instead your exciting introduction to Lambreth reads like page 27 of a geography textbook. Alas!
Still, the book is terrific and I hope everybody enjoys.
I reinstalled adobe reader (9.3) and it works fine now.
China Miéville?! Wow. Not a name I was expecting. I'm excited to hear Paizo and China have hooked up! His fiction has been one of my favorite discoveries of the last couple years. Can't wait to see what he does here. And, of course, all the rest of you awesome authors. :-)
I've seen a few threads in the customer service area in regards to the issues. It seems that folks are having to either redownload the PDF or reinstall Adobe, but it's been successful in clearing the issue for most of the folks it seems.
Ouch! Reader, sure. Full version, not going to happen. Repersonalizing ... and crossing my fingers.
Edit: Well, it works in Reader atleast.
Fox it !
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And by deversifying your pdf readers you would be less likely to become victim of an attack. Monoculteres are bad (cf. IE)!
Adam Daigle! You strike again with the coolness factor!
China Miéville rocked the house with his stuff, sure enough, but he's not the only one who took a road less traveled!
For those who haven't yet gotten the PDF, Adam has an awesomely cool town called Uringen.. that fades in and out of existence! Very Brigadoon style (only much more usable in a campaign than Brigadoon would be).
Thumbs up for extreme cleverness!
Now I can see why when I mentioned that one of the example sighting of a Hound of Tindalous was in the River Kingdoms you were smacking yourself in the forehead. It would have been a perfect fit.
Well done Adam!
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So far this is one spectatular PDF, can't wait for the print copy to arrive.
Back in my Forgotten Realms days I always loved tracking down lors on their "Border Kingdoms" and ran my share of one-shots and mini campaigns in this sandbox-style region.
Kingmaker is going to be so much more with this as a source!
The "one file per chapter" version is missing the inside cover... which is the map... :)
Couldn't stop reading the first chapter so far - Thanks for a great setting for my next campaign!
Nice! You got China Mieville to write one of the kingdoms, I can't wait to get this River Kingdom Chronicles!
I am now officially conflicted on my gaming budget. I was going to pick this up in pdf only, but China Mieville? I think I need dead tree too.
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Well done Adam!
Thank you, Watcher.
To be fair, I just expanded on the few sentences in the Campaign Setting, so the idea was already partially in place by the author of that section. I just fattened it up a bit and gave it a little more life.
I can't wait to get my copy to see how it turned out.
Yeh, great work all involved..I read Neil Spicers one page set up for Artume and the whole place clicked into place immediately.
Regent Waike is Basil Rathbone
Otoniel Marks is Errol Flynn
Proto Arthurian /Robin Hood hijinks in the greenwood...ohhh the opportunities are so interesting.
...I read Neil Spicers one page set up for Artume and the whole place clicked into place immediately....Proto Arthurian /Robin Hood hijinks in the greenwood...ohhh the opportunities are so interesting....
Cool connections!
I didn't necessarily strive for all that. But I often do draw inspiration from other stories, myths, and legends to weave storylines or narratives with similar elements to them. Hey, if it worked for something viewed as a classic or fantasy staple, why not tap that well again?
Beyond just the Arthurian or Robin Hood possibilities, I also tried to channel a little Three Musketeers mojo for possibilities with supporting the queen-in-hiding and her would-be-king-someday son. Of course, all that goes to pot if Artume falls before such plans come to fruition. But, that's what heroes are for, right?
God save the Queen! ;-)
I think I put this on my wish list here on Paizo. This is tempting for me. I still am waiting to see what this Kingmaker AP will be like. Council of Thieves has been alright but not great.
This would have been just about perfect if the cartographer and a few of the authors could agree on which way is east (see Mossriver and Scrawny Crossing in particular). Made it a tad difficult to check locations when flipping between the map and the text.
Is the information in this guide PC friendly if you were to run Kingmaker when it comes out?
One thing that confuses me about this guide is I thought it was going to be the equivalent of what "Pathfinder Companion: Cheliax, Empire of Devils" was for the Council of Thieves AP. But this is a Chronicles and that was a companion, so I'm unsure.
How is this guide intended to be used with the Kingmaker AP (if at all) can anyone clear up my confusion? Thank you much.
One thing that confuses me about this guide is I thought it was going to be the equivalent of what "Pathfinder Companion: Cheliax, Empire of Devils" was for the Council of Thieves AP. But this is a Chronicles and that was a companion, so I'm unsure.
It's more analogous to the relationship between Guide to Korvosa (also a Chronicles product) and the Curse of the Crimson Throne AP. The difference being that, in theory at least, the Chronicles products are aimed at GMs and the Companions at players. That said, sometimes the line gets a little blurry.
I've not read the Guide to the River Kingdoms cover to cover yet so I can't comment specifically on what player-unfriendly info may be contained, though I do recall that there is a sidebar in the section on the Stolen Lands talking about the connections to the AP.
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Is the information in this guide PC friendly if you were to run Kingmaker when it comes out?
One thing that confuses me about this guide is I thought it was going to be the equivalent of what "Pathfinder Companion: Cheliax, Empire of Devils" was for the Council of Thieves AP. But this is a Chronicles and that was a companion, so I'm unsure.
How is this guide intended to be used with the Kingmaker AP (if at all) can anyone clear up my confusion? Thank you much.
In general, the Chronicles products aren't very player friendly. They tend to have spoilers galore . Occassionally, like in the Guide to Korvosa, we managed to keep those in the back in a GM spoiler section, but most of the time, they are sprinkled throughout.
For the APs, we have taken to making free Player's Guides that can be downloaded on our website. The Kingmaker one will be available when Pathfinder #31 releases in a few weeks. It should give your players what they need to play in the campaign.
Guide to the River Kingdoms is not essential at all for playing in Kingmaker, though it might really help a GM whose players want to roam around the rest of the River Kingdoms. There are some really neat little kingdoms that will be near where they are, so it might add some depth to the campaign. Also, they might want to go shopping in some of the bigger cities in the River Kingdoms unless they want to go back up to Brevoy, which might make more sense.
I hope this helps!
-Lisa
what player-unfriendly info may be contained
Well, my copy said, "Shinmizu is an ugly buttface." What's strange is that it was in my handwriting, but I don't remember writing anything of the sort.
I guess the most likely possibility is that I'm really Lisa, since it was written in her article. I really don't look like a Lisa, though. I'll have to talk with my parents about that.
For the APs, we have taken to making free Player's Guides that can be downloaded on our website. The Kingmaker one will be available when Pathfinder #31 releases in a few weeks. It should give your players what they need to play in the campaign.
I hope this helps!
-Lisa
Thank you Lisa, that does help answer my question there. However, it also prompts a follow-up question.
I was under the impression that Paizo was no longer doing player's guides and were instead printing supplements in the Companion line to replace them. But I guess I was mis informed?
If Council of Thieves AP has both "Pathfinder Companion: Cheliax, Empire of Devils" & its free Player's Guide to supplement its AP, and future Serpent's Skull AP has both "Pathfinder Companion: Sargava, the Lost Colony" & its free Player's Guide to supplement its AP, why does Kingmaker break this formula? Is it merely just due to scheduling? IE. No space in the Companion line so print something in Chronicles as an alternative?
Is there actually a guideline / formula for APs and their supplements, or is that just a large misconception on my part?
Again, thank you for the helpful response!
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I was under the impression that Paizo was no longer doing player's guides and were instead printing supplements in the Companion line to replace them. But I guess I was mis informed?
If Council of Thieves AP has both "Pathfinder Companion: Cheliax, Empire of Devils" & its free Player's Guide to supplement its AP, and future Serpent's Skull AP has both "Pathfinder Companion: Sargava, the Lost Colony" & its free Player's Guide to supplement its AP, why does Kingmaker break this formula? Is it merely just due to scheduling? IE. No space in the Companion line so print something in Chronicles as an alternative?
Is there actually a guideline / formula for APs and their supplements, or is that just a large misconception on my part?
We decided to finally divorce the AP Player Guides from the Companion line well after we'd already started work on the Cheliax guide. As a result, that still feels a little bit muddled and murky in focus; there WAS a Council of Thieves Player's Guide, but it was a free PDF. The fact that it came out basically on the same day as the Cheliax Player's Guide was just a ripple effect form the fact that, when the Cheliax guide was originally concepted, it was the Council of Thieves guide.
For Serpent's Skull, there's going to be a free PDF Player's Guide, but the corresponding release in the Player's Companion line is "Orcs of Golarion," which really has nothing to do with Serpent's Skull at all (unless a PC is playing an orc or half orc, I guess). The Sargava companion actually comes out a few months BEFORE Serpent's Skull starts... and the Serpent's Skull AP only spends about 1/2 of one adventure (the 2nd one) actually IN Sargava.
And Kingmaker, of course, is the first AP after Council of Thieves, and thus the first one to coincide with the new direction for the Companion line.
I just noticed that one of the Authors is China Miéville, how often does he work on Pathfinder products? I ask because he happens to be one of my favorite authors. Ever since Dragon did the spread on Perdido Street Station I have been a huge fan.
I think this was his only occasion. I don't want to put words in Erik Mona's mouth, but I got the impression from something Erik said that China Miéville wrote his section for fun. As opposed to a burning need for work.. because he enjoys role-playing games in real life.
This remark stemmed from a question regarding if China Miéville would now write a Pathfinder novel, and Erik was saying Miéville's own critically acclaimed publishing success puts him out of Paizo's league. Sort of like asking Stephen King write a Pathfinder novel..
So I assume Miéville made the time to write a section of River Kingdoms out his love for the game.
My assumptions might be incorrect, but they're offered in good faith.
Any chance of a large River Kingdoms map like the map in Guide to Darkmoon Vale? With an area this large and detailed, the little map inside the front cover isn't as useful, espeically when trying to use it in game.
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Any chance of a large River Kingdoms map like the map in Guide to Darkmoon Vale? With an area this large and detailed, the little map inside the front cover isn't as useful, espeically when trying to use it in game.
I'd love a map of just the natural terrain and permanent features on a flipmat. Would be awesome for Kingmaker if we're going to be rearranging the borders and rename things.
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Any chance of a large River Kingdoms map like the map in Guide to Darkmoon Vale? With an area this large and detailed, the little map inside the front cover isn't as useful, espeically when trying to use it in game.
We're unlikely to be offering a giant River Kingdoms map anytime in the near future, but we WILL be doing a pretty close-up map of one region—the Stolen Lands—in the Kingmaker Adventure Path. This is a swath of land that's about the same size (but not the same shape, obviously) as Maine that runs along the northeastern border of the River Kingdoms between Pitax and Brevoy, and over the course of the six Kingmaker adventures (which ALL take place in this area) we'll be presenting four full page maps of this region for the PCs to explore and conquer.
Kingmaker won't be changing borders or renaming much in the River Kingdoms, in any event... but there'll be a good chance of SOME of that as regards Pitax and the Stolen Lands...
I just noticed that one of the Authors is China Miéville, how often does he work on Pathfinder products? I ask because he happens to be one of my favorite authors. Ever since Dragon did the spread on Perdido Street Station I have been a huge fan.I think this was his only occasion. I don't want to put words in Erik Mona's mouth, but I got the impression from something Erik said that China Miéville wrote his section for fun. As opposed to a burning need for work.. because he enjoys role-playing games in real life.
This remark stemmed from a question regarding if China Miéville would now write a Pathfinder novel, and Erik was saying Miéville's own critically acclaimed publishing success puts him out of Paizo's league. Sort of like asking Stephen King write a Pathfinder novel..
So I assume Miéville made the time to write a section of River Kingdoms out his love for the game.
My assumptions might be incorrect, but they're offered in good faith.
Watcher is correct. China was kind enough to invent Outsea for us out of a love for his own gaming roots, combined with the fact that he's generally an awesome guy. He also worked with us to stat up Outsea's ceratioidi race for the bestiary in Pathfinder #32, but so far those are his only direct contributions to the world of Golarion, though he's also been involved in the Planet Stories line, both writing an introduction for The Walrus and the Warwolf and giving me his first-ever story (and a really fun, in-depth interview) for Before They Were Giants.
In short, China + Paizo = BFF.
Any chance of a large River Kingdoms map like the map in Guide to Darkmoon Vale? With an area this large and detailed, the little map inside the front cover isn't as useful, espeically when trying to use it in game.We're unlikely to be offering a giant River Kingdoms map anytime in the near future, but we WILL be doing a pretty close-up map of one region—the Stolen Lands—in the Kingmaker Adventure Path.
Really? I would think a poster of the River Kingdoms would be great for the Map Folio.
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Really? I would think a poster of the River Kingdoms would be great for the Map Folio.Any chance of a large River Kingdoms map like the map in Guide to Darkmoon Vale? With an area this large and detailed, the little map inside the front cover isn't as useful, espeically when trying to use it in game.We're unlikely to be offering a giant River Kingdoms map anytime in the near future, but we WILL be doing a pretty close-up map of one region—the Stolen Lands—in the Kingmaker Adventure Path.
The Map Folio for Kingmaker will likely include poster maps of the Stolen Lands... but again, since Kingmaker takes place almost entirely in the Stolen Lands and a little bit in Pitax, a poster map of the entire River Kingdoms wouldn't make any sense for that Map Folio at all.
Given the preliminary description of the Inner Sea Map Folio, I imagine the portion covering the River Kingdoms will be both large (as will the whole map) and detailed.
As will the map of the Azlanti Kingdom of Golarion Knowledge, More Land.
And here I thought was complimenting you. I'll take my Azlanti Knowledge title and my toys and go home now.
*harrumph*