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At times the planes might be closer or not to one another, and those closer in alignment are probably easier to move between than those that are quite different. But normal concepts of space and distance don't always work within that sort of manifest, metaphysical environment.
Distance in a manifest, metaphysical environment is going to be manifest, metaphysical distance - that is to say, conceptual distance. If Axis is the Perfect City (as opposed to the Ideal City, work with me, it's a thought experiment), then it might be easier to get from the slums (hence the distinction between perfection and ideality) of Axis to the city of Dis in Hell than it is to anywhere in Heaven, and the chaotic good pastoral plane Elysium is right out.
Conceptual distance. I like it.
Do you guys have any idea when this will be ready to ship in may? Within the first week?
Do you guys have any idea when this will be ready to ship in may? Within the first week?
You can check the official schedule here.
Do you guys have any idea when this will be ready to ship in may? Within the first week?You can check the official schedule here.
Cool, never knew that existed! Thankee-sai!
Just downloaded mine! I am really looking forward to reading this :-)
Any comments or feedback, both positive or negative, I'm really looking forward to hearing once folks have a chance to read it. :)
Is it out??? Has it shipped????
Same here. I have downloaded the PDF yesterday evening, and I will receive my paper copy in about two weeks (hopefully), to which I am looking forward really excitedly.
So far I'm quite impressed with it!
One exception though... it's an engrossing read, so I stayed up far too late last night reading it and will be dragging my butt at work toady :)
Curse my wretched lack of subscription! I'll have to wait for the hardcopy to arrive. :(
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Trust me, this is a compliment: My initial impression is something akin to "Wow, look how awesome Paizo added to the planes and the Great Wheel. It's not cluttered, so free and ready to be meshed with anything I might want to port over from the Great Wheel. Awesome."
And, as someone else said, reading it is really emersive. So far so good...back to reading!
-DM Jeff
Curse my wretched lack of subscription! I'll have to wait for the hardcopy to arrive. :(Me too... ordered it to my FLGS a month ago, and now I'm eagerly waiting for it! :)
Me three, and it'll be even longer for me in Ireland! :'( I want to read and probably compliment Mr. Steward!
What? Is it already june? In product listing it is said that the great beyond pdf comes out on June 3rd.
Subscribers get the PDF in addition to the Hardcopy, that's the PDF people are getting...
I hope to afford this with the new 10% bonus, we shall see...
So they are actively shipping them as of now? I hope mine ships soon, the sooner the better.
Any comments or feedback, both positive or negative, I'm really looking forward to hearing once folks have a chance to read it. :)
This as been the one book more than any other that I ahve been waiting for. I was not disappointed, not even in the slightest.
So they are actively shipping them as of now? I hope mine ships soon, the sooner the better.Yep, we are shipping them as I type this. All the copies should be out the door by the time we all head off to see Star Trek on Friday!
-Lisa
Thank you! I should have it by about the 20th, just before the end of my exams! What a nice reward!
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Trust me, this is a compliment: My initial impression is something akin to "Wow, look how awesome Paizo added to the planes and the Great Wheel. It's not cluttered, so free and ready to be meshed with anything I might want to port over from the Great Wheel. Awesome."
And, as someone else said, reading it is really emersive. So far so good...back to reading!
-DM Jeff
What he said. Well done Todd!
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Just skimmed the pdf (I await the print to cross the pond for a complete reading) eagerly seeking for bits useful for a certain plane-hopping adventure I'm writing.
The sections relative to the dimension of time, the origin of the inevitables and Axis are really excellent - and they also fit quite well the concepts I had in mind! - and the Book of the Serpents will (briefly) show up... yummy!
- and the Book of the Serpents will (briefly) show up... yummy!
The Book of Serpents Ash and Acorns and the section it was connected to, had some easter eggs therein. I enjoyed the Plane of Time quite a bit. There was originally a spell in TGB designed to access the Plane of Time, found within the Book of Serpents, but it was cut for space.
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- and the Book of the Serpents will (briefly) show up... yummy!The Book of Serpents Ash and Acorns and the section it was connected to, had some easter eggs therein. I enjoyed the Plane of Time quite a bit. There was originally a spell in TGB designed to access the Plane of Time, found within the Book of Serpents, but it was cut for space.
It'll work nonetheless.
I'm using a (humongous) bunch of creatures and sources for this adventure - part of a campaign - and thusly in Axis, Athentia the Great Sphinx (1) will allow a glimpse of the book, just enough to travel to the secret hideout of the true Gorgons Euryale and Sthenno (2), where a Chalkidry angel (3) is held prisoner.He'll guide the PCs through the Astral Plane to a door to access the Dimension of Time, and discover the nefarious plans of a Chronotyryn (4)...
It may be not true "Golarion Canon", but as the Paizo guys have often said, "it's your campaign now..." :)
(1): from Creature Collection II, for the Scarred Lands
(2): from the Tome of Horros Revised
(3): from the Tome of Horros III
(4): from the Fiend Folio
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I am curious. Which creatures do you use of these books?
Usually I comb my rather large d20 library for rules addenda and monster selection (and inspiration) at the start of a campaign/adventure, right after I laid out the basics of the plot.
From the aforementioned books, here's the list:Creature Collection II:
- Athentia the Great Sphinx
- Carnivorous Tree (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Carrion Hound (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Conundrum Creature
- Tempus Twin
- Time Killer
Tome of Horrors Revised:
- Barracuda (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Bunyip (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Caribe (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Clubneck (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Death Dog (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Giant Frog (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Monstruous Crab (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Nilbog (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Protector
- Shedu
- Skunk (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Time Elemental
- True Gorgon
- Vulchling (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Skeleton Warrior (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Wolfwere (not involved in the planar adventure)
Tome of Horrors III:
- Chalkydri Angel
- Dire Wolfwere (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Raven Swarm (not involved in the planar adventure)
Fiend Folio:
- Chronotyryn
- Movanic Deva
- Blood Hawk (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Huecuva (not involved in the planar adventure)
- Quarut Inevitable
- Ethereal Ooze
- Slasrath (not involved in the planar adventure)
Quite obviously, the Keketars and Axiomites from The Great Beyond will also make an appearance or two. :)
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Me three, and it'll be even longer for me in Ireland! :'( I want to read and probably compliment Mr. Steward!Curse my wretched lack of subscription! I'll have to wait for the hardcopy to arrive. :(Me too... ordered it to my FLGS a month ago, and now I'm eagerly waiting for it! :)
Well, I live on the frozen shores of Northern Scandinavia, so it's even longer for me! :(
Me three, and it'll be even longer for me in Ireland! :'( I want to read and probably compliment Mr. Steward!Well, I live on the frozen shores of Northern Scandinavia, so it's even longer for me! :(
Um... you can build an ice raft to collect it mid atlantic? What can I build in Ireland??
WE JUST HAVE RAIN!
Having received my copy of this today at work, I flipped through the first pages, intent on doing just that - idly glancing.
I couldn't. I tried, but the book sucked me in.
If you're old school enough to remember flipping through the first Planescape books and going "Ooooh" and trying to figure out how to get those poor berks that don't know what's what a brief glimpse of the Planes, you will not be disappointed in The Great Beyond. There's more old school flavor in here than you can shake a stick at, and it's all so damn tasty.
Todd (and everybody else that worked on this book), you did a great job. I'll be sure to try and set aside some time to do a review more proper-like. :)
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I never really liked the Planescape stuff back than. The "cant" seemed condescending to me and it looked like TSR was apeing Shadowrun to run with the cool guys. And don't even get me started on the stupid retcons... :) I hated it. The di Terlizzi art was as offputting to me as the cant as well, too cartoonish for my taste, so I never looked at the whole stuf back then besides the first few products.
But this book... is gold! Well done, Todd!
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Me three, and it'll be even longer for me in Ireland! :'( I want to read and probably compliment Mr. Steward!Well, I live on the frozen shores of Northern Scandinavia, so it's even longer for me! :(Um... you can build an ice raft to collect it mid atlantic? What can I build in Ireland??
WE JUST HAVE RAIN!
At least you don't have polar bears to fight every time you step outside! ;)
I never really liked the Planescape stuff back than.
You mystify me. :)
If you're old school enough to remember flipping through the first Planescape books and going "Ooooh" and trying to figure out how to get those poor berks that don't know what's what a brief glimpse of the Planes, you will not be disappointed in The Great Beyond. There's more old school flavor in here than you can shake a stick at, and it's all so damn tasty.
I don't think I have any old school credit ;). I didn't play D&D till 2000 with 3e, and my first exposure to the planes was 2e Planescape, rather than the 1e material. Loves me the 2e planar material. Lot of thematic inspiration there for this book, and my general style of gaming in general.
That said, I really -really- feel flattered that folks seem to be liking what they've seen so far. And if you felt inclined to write up a formal review, consider me to owe you a drink at GenCon or something (that's a general offer to pretty much anyone). :)
That's pretty impressive, Todd.
And there's plenty of us that missed the Planescape bandwagon.
I don't think I have any old school credit ;). I didn't play D&D till 2000 with 3e, and my first exposure to the planes was 2e Planescape, rather than the 1e material. Loves me the 2e planar material. Lot of thematic inspiration there for this book, and my general style of gaming in general.
That said, I really -really- feel flattered that folks seem to be liking what they've seen so far. And if you felt inclined to write up a formal review, consider me to owe you a drink at GenCon or something (that's a general offer to pretty much anyone). :)
To be perfectly honest, I don't either. With the exception of Keep on the Borderlands, my first exposure to D&D was with 2nd edition, and yeah, 2e Planescape FTW. And yay, free drink! :D
Seriously. I don't even know.I never really liked the Planescape stuff back than.You mystify me. :)
I tried to explain why. I like the planes, I just resented the way it was presented. Also I don't care at all for Sigil. Never liked these kind of fantasy-melting-pot cities. I feel the same for cities like Lankhmar, Sanctuary, or New Crobuzon and the like.
I never really liked the Planescape stuff back than. The "cant" seemed condescending to me and it looked like TSR was apeing Shadowrun to run with the cool guys. And don't even get me started on the stupid retcons... :) I hated it. The di Terlizzi art was as offputting to me as the cant as well, too cartoonish for my taste, so I never looked at the whole stuf back then besides the first few products.
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HERETIC!
Seriously though. Todd/Shemeska, a wonderful book! I am halfway thrugh the PDF, and I love the travelogue feel to it. I am definitely yoinking concepts for my ongoing Planescape PbP. I like the fact that you cleaned up some of the underpinnings of the whole soul life cycle, and that the hags now have even more roles to play! Kudos!
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Spoilers are getting a bit much, but uh, yeah many Irishmen do like a drink, we have pubs not bars, which is a BIG difference from the US. I'm only 20 so I'm no pub regular auld lad.
To entirely cement the cliche, I'll have to correct you, Guinness is a druaght/stout, not a beer! >_>