Melkiador wrote:blahpers wrote:TL;DR: People complained about stuff, so Paizo released a book that made things worse. : DLol. It feels that way. I hate most of the unchained summoner. It broke more than it fixed. Barbarian felt more like “why bother”. Unchained monk was close to ok but could have used a playtest. And the unchained rogue is probably ok but it’s too tempting for dexterity based dips.
The Dex to Damage mechanic gets a little ridiculous. You pour everything into boosting Dex and become nearly unhittable while having a high attack bonus. Goblin rogue can out hit a fighter of the same level and out-damage him likely too if he can sneak attack consistently.
Very rarely is a Rogue going to have their dex more than 2 points above what a primary martial is going to have in their strength, unless you've got some weird game where people are running around with 14 strength fighters. So before BAB an Unrogue is at most +1 to hit over the fighter. But then the fighter has weapon training and BAB to raise his attack bonus, plus more attack per round. And while the rogue has debilitating injury to help provide more accuracy that's only going to close the BaB gap, and not the class feature gap.
And if the Rogue gets sneak attack, that's only going to bring them up to the fighters level and not surpass them, because again the fighter has more attacks, better or equal accuracy, and his own damage boosters that are also multiplied on critical hits.