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They made a 5e version because 5e is still alive and active played, infinitely moreso than P1.

Aka there was money in making the 5e version, not so much the P1 version.

PF1e is played as much as PF2e still, cause lot of us never demanded or wanted PF2e and wanted PF1e to continue, yet we here are abandoned just like WotC abandoned us 3e players to 4e.

Just support all editions, not that hard. Find it funny they'd rather support a rival company than their own brand.

EDIT: Also noticed my post is missing, way to censor the critiques from customers instead of considering them more.

Barachiel Shina wrote:

Can a developer please convert the Wheel Archon to PF1e? That'd be great. So many PF2e new monsters I wish they did in 1e, an the Ophanim (wheel archon) I've been waiting years for, it'd be very nice if one of you at Paizo could give us PF1e fans the stats for it? Especially after being loyal customers throughout all of 1e. Thanks.

I can do it for you, Luis. 5 bucks per conversion, I take PayPal.

Random name, strange? but no thanks.

Can someone post what new creatures are in here? Like new as in didn’t previously have PF1 stats before. I need to know if it’s worth buying.

Put another way, some people feel that the spell on a dead creature should end, so they try to invent a justification for that, but the rules don't say they end. Any justification for their ending is made by wishful thinking.

So I'm guessing a wizard with a Permanency spell casted to give themselves permanent Arcane Sight would have a corpse that would show a Divination aura if someone found the corpse and did Detect Magic on it?

I just find it a very weird ruling that's been completely overlooked for decades.

How did 2e D&D handle it? How does 5e D&D handle it now? Or PF2e?

Especially with the fact we have spells that can resurrect you within 1 minute of death.

So if my wizard with Haste, Mage Armor, and Shield dies but is raised like 3 rounds later, the Haste, Mage Armor and Shield spells continue as if nothing happened?

Or does the magic fizzle out with the caster's life since they're no longer a valid target even?

Surprised no game developer ever considered this.

Ok, I can't find this ruling in D&D or Pathfinder.

So got a character, had a bunch of buff spells on. Died. Got resurrected next round of combat.

Did my spells on myself like Haste or Shield of Faith ended since I died? Or do they continue after death until they end?

Not sure, cause I'm assuming once dead, those spells wear off since they no longer can affect the target it was designed for. As in, you're an object now being a corpse.

What's the consensus?

Can a developer please convert the Wheel Archon to PF1e? That'd be great. So many PF2e new monsters I wish they did in 1e, an the Ophanim (wheel archon) I've been waiting years for, it'd be very nice if one of you at Paizo could give us PF1e fans the stats for it? Especially after being loyal customers throughout all of 1e. Thanks.

I only care about the PF1e portions so I just want the Bestiary for it when it comes out for everyone later. Glad Legendary Games cares about PF1e players unlike Paizo, who ditched us and won't make more game material for us. LG seems to be the only ones so far producing PF1e content still.

Can someone share the ToC of the Bestiary by any chance?

There's still a huge following of PF1e, I'm surprised I'm not seeing more products for PF1e on Pathfinder Infinite. Are people really buying into the hype of PF2e and not realizing it's not really good for everyone? That some of us still prefer PF1e and would be interested in support for it?

Personally, I'd love to see a series written that converts all the monsters new to Pathfinder in 2E to convert to 1e. I'd pay for that! We could technically have Bestiary 7 and 8 for PF1e if so!

Can someone write this for PF1e? That'd be great, you'll get a profit since there's a ton of us still playing PF1e and want new, cool monsters. Thanks!

I'm interested in the PF1e Bestiary for this but two questions.

1) When is this finally due out for release because I feel like it's been forever since this was announced.

2) I know the monsters from the AP itself are in the bestiary, but will there also be brand new monsters in there?

As much as I will always wish Paizo supported both editions (I'll even accept an unequal support of them, such as PF1e just getting mechanic conversions only), there's just that empty void of PF1e fans while PF2e keeps paving roads. (Here's to never seeing a PF1e conversion of the "Inventor" class coming out next month)

But I wish they at least did the monster conversions. Seeing some awesome creatures I wish were PF1e monsters. But at least there's a guy on Tumblr who's been doing PF1e conversions for a long time and has a ton of stuff now.

He's got several PF2e monsters converted on here (along with monsters from mythology and older D&D editions), and he accepts commissions at various times. Check it out here:

The Creature Codex

What's the deal with White Necromancers having Cure and Resurrection magic, yet they lack one of the other fundamental spells to dealing with Undead---

Restoration spells.

What was the design decision behind them lacking Lesser Restoration and Restoration spells?

When is the PF1 version of this coming out?

In regards to the Time Flayer creature, is there any reason why it lost the "Unmaking" special attack when taken from Tome of Horrors? I noticed it's missing that entry.

I understand the game mechanical reasoning, at the same time I think it was a nice homage to the truly lethal dangers that was reminiscent of D&D 1e and 2e creatures that PCs battled.

I'm assuming maybe a higher HD Time Flayer may gain it as an ability? Possibly a Time Flayer Lord type of foe?

They undertook too many projects. I wish they just stuck with Psionics. They branched off into PoW, Vampires, Akashics, etc.etc. and to me that wasn't why I signed on with DSP.

I'm a huge psionics fan, WotC doesn't care about Psionics, Paizo abandoned Psionics and went with Occult magic with rips from Psionics, which left DSP as my only real source for new Psionic material.

And now that's gone too.

Starting to hate the TTRPG industry, it's not catering the bases that are left behind from edition changes and system abandonments like it used to. It's become an "assembly line" of consumers, out with the old and in with the new.

MMOs don't do this crap. Final Fantasy XI was still release expansions even far after the success of FFXIV. And they still continue to support and update the game.

While MMOs have been inspired by and borrowed from TTRPGs, it's time the TTRPG businesses take a thing or two from MMOs.

Doing some necromancy on this thread.

A ton of new monsters have come out from the Bestiary 2 and the Adventure Paths. Especially a lot of Fey creatures I wish PF1 also had.

Does anyone know of a person, or group or company, who takes the time to convert these creatures to PF1?

I really wish Paizo would just be nice enough to give us the stats of BOTH editions for the new monsters, but Paizo clearly doesn't care about its old base. Which is not what a company should do.

I've recently been doing searches for companies still writing generic Pathfinder 1e material. I found this on the search. I really hate PF2e and prefer more PF1e material and I'm not having much luck finding someone who is carrying the torch so I can give them my support. If people can offer suggestions, let me know.

Thank you.

Bringing this back. Has anyone made or found a site that converts PF 2e monsters back to 1e? If not, I guess I can slowly do that myself.

By PF2 monsters I mean the ones that are brand new and never appeared in PF1.

There are some monsters I am seeing in PF2e I really wish had PF1e conversions.

Judging from the entirely new (and unwanted, but that's another topic) system, it's not possible to convert PF2e spells and feats and such to PF1e.

However, the monster stats seem like they could convert half of it PF1e at least, but there're some things that need some judgment calls.

Since the material is open source, is there a 3rd party publisher we can request to write "Monster Conversion" PDFs from PF2e to PF1e? Since Paizo doesn't care to do both systems, as I believe they should because if I owned an RPG company I sure as heck would, someone else could do it.

We really need a thread to convert P2 material over to P1 and hopefully the Pathfinder designers can help.

For starters, can we get conversions of the new monsters in P2's Hellknight Hill Adventure Path?

Door Warden
Emperor Bird
Grauladon
Graveshell
Hellcrown
Tixitog

Thanks, much appreciated!

Need to make this thread since many of us want to still play P1 but also want the new material from P2 for our P1 games.

For starters, can we get conversions of the new monsters in P2's Hellknight Hill Adventure Path?

Door Warden
Emperor Bird
Grauladon
Graveshell
Hellcrown
Tixitog

Thanks, much appreciated!

What 3PP companies that are well known and credited are sticking to continuing developing 1e PF material? Because I'd like to check them out and start supporting that.

The biggest reason I ever got into Pathfinder was because one of their "pillars" of game design was backwards compatibility with D&D 3.5 and there were a ton of us that hated WotC and 4e and wanted to go to something that carried on to what we enjoyed. It made the transition mostly easy. In fact, I have been running a D&D 3.5/PF hybrid system for years.

But, no offense to anyone, I feel like Paizo has become the new WotC with their 2e system. Abandoning a loyal base to unneccessarily change up an entire gaming system that's been statisically very successul for...I honestly don't know why. Profit? I mean, we all saw how hard 4E flopped. I personally have no interest in 2e because of how vastly different it is and all my 1e material is useless. It's not compatible at all.

So I'm doing what I thought I'd never do to Paizo, and I did with WotC, which is jumping ship from my support for them and looking to see what 3pp companies I can support that's going to continue to make the quality game I desire.

Never got a large amount of Inevitable and Aeon monsters for the game. They sure went crazy on those Psychopomps, though.

Never got enough material for the Gunslinger.

Never got up to Bestiary 10.

Was hoping for a Gunslinger only Player Companion but now that'll never happen.

End of an era. Nice gaming in PF1e. I'll miss it. I'm no fan of 5e D&D Pathfinder, I mean, PF2e.

Lastly, I guess I'm somewhat saddened that they're doing away with Inevitables in 2e, though I won't be making the switch myself. Does anyone know if they will write them out, just use them a lot less, just ignore them?

Yet another on my massive checklist of why I will stay far from PF2e.

So what Outsider will be prominent for the Lawful Neutral? Don't say Axiomites, that's just one race. I like Inevitables because of how much variety there is/can be.

You'll be delighted to know that in PF2, aeons will become much prominent and will replace Inevitables as the main True Neutral outsider race.

Not really, as I have zero care or likes for PF2. Too soon and too different.

Ugh, is there a way to convert new eidolon material for Unchained to make it for the NORMAL Summoner?

Not a fan of the Unchained one.

Damn it, I hate pushbacks so much.

Dragon78 wrote:

Maybe there will be unarmored AC options for many classes in this one.

I hope so too, and that it is super-easy to 'export' to PF2e.

If you look at ENWorld's compilation of PF2e ruleset, NOTHING will be easy to export to PF1. It is its own RPG system barely based on the old.

I am hoping we a get a "Gunslinger's Handbook" before PF2 is here. I doubt it though, Paizo doesn't care.

These Player Companions better be JAMMED with game material since PF1 is almost out the door

I'm just looking for ways to reverse engineer their feats to PF1e. Man, Paizo sure made the new edition as alien as possible to stop people from converting and staying with PF1.

The Debilitating Shot feat, how can I make that a PF1e feat? I am guessing Point-Blank as a prerequisites with Dex 15 as well. I am thinking the target hit makes a Fortitude save or is slowed for 1 round.

I mean, if no one in their department is going to reverse these to make them work for PF1e, I might as well try.

Well, first of all, they aren't screwing anyone over, so you need to get over that.

Second of all, I'd support this idea with my wallet, if only as an experiment.

Well they are to me, I want more options and new monsters for the material they have now. I would also like maybe a PF1 version of some of the PF2 stuff that's coming out, but for my PF1 games. Right now, if I want to support Paizo, I MUST play PF2E. If that's not screwing over the base, then what is?

Here's an interesting idea that can easily rake in a ton of cash while ALSO pleasing the community at the same time.

Why not support BOTH PF1E and PF2E?

Yes, I know what people will say. But I'm not suggesting they equally do both, as we all know that will split their resources when they really want to focus on PF2E.

I'm saying maybe they release just a few products per year, better than nothing, I say! Right?!

It's better than screwing an entire community over who still want official PF1 material and don't really like and want to be forced to play PF2 because everybody else is, or arguing why they should switch.

I'm pretty much hanging on a thread here hoping I can look forward to more PF1 material, even if it's just a miniscule amount.

This is utterly depressing me thinking about it. :'(

gustavo iglesias wrote:

I'm glad to see that plenty of people who had reservations, have been more supportive of the idea of the new edition with every little bit of info the devs are giving.

Well, after the initial shock, I realized that I really do have enough 1e material to last me a lifetime, so I can happily keep playing it forever if need be. So once I got secure in that idea, it's easier to take tentative nibbles that maybe I could make use of *some* parts of 2e (like the APs).

The 2E APs are probably the only things us PF1 players will get use out of.

Considering the entire restructuring of their feat system, magic and spells system, and their monsters we are all screwed from harnessing any of the crunchy material from PF2 to our PF1 games.

Converting a PF2 monster to PF1, for example, is probably not going to be possible. Or may be with a ton of work.

Saw some more of the 2E Pathfinder rules today. It's all compiled on ENWorld.

It's no longer Pathfinder anymore. 2nd Edition is a complete overhaul and I hate it the more and more I read it. You don't want me playtesting it. I'll just be suggesting and pushing a lot of things to bring it more in line with PF1 again.

I expected this kind of garbage from WotC with D&D. WotC with the complete abandonment of the 3.0/3.5 community for their crap 4e and, then soon after, 5e, was why I left them and came to Paizo. Paizo showed the RPG industry that you can do an edition change without throwing away so much of the original material. This was why Pathfinder had the moniker of "3.75" but, to me, they are MY 4th Edition D&D. They were what 4E D&D should have been.

Now Paizo is just another clone of WotC, abandoning a great system like PF1 and giving us a completely new, different, and unnecessary 2nd edition.

The saviors have now become the perpetrators. Thanks for succumbing to the same mistakes WotC has made.

When asked about remaining hardcover rulebooks for Pathfinder First Edition, Erik Mona said the following:

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This makes me sad.... :(

It has me pretty mad. They couldn't fit in at least one more Bestiary at least? As like a going away present for us who don't want to go to 2E PF?

"Works better than everything that came since then" is major hyperbole and just wrong. If it did, nobody would have bothered to move on from 3.5 <_<

Like, I'm actually feeling very mixed here(I have spend a lot of little money I have) for "1e" products, but if nothing else, I guess year in future there will be finite number of them so I can actually buy all of them

Actually no one truly moved on from 3.5. Many came to Pathfinder BECAUSE it was a 3.75e

It was what 4e D&D SHOULD have been, I would argue.

The fact that many of the 3.5 material is very compatible with PF with minimal tweaking made it a very wonderful transition. The only things left in the dust were some of WotC’s classes (like Warlock, for example). It was specifically stated as a PILLAR to Pathfibdwr’s foundations.

Now they want to abandon it. And everyone who came on board with it with something more akin to 5th edition D&D than to Pathfinder 1e.

I’d rather play 5e D&D.

Sad day. Instead of looking forward to the books that I've pre-ordered, now I just want to cancel them all along with this account. History repeats itself over and over. Out with the old and in with the newer dumbed down version of the game. Yay.

Boo.

Pretty much. They lost a customer here.

I would prefer they continue to support 1st Edition PF, even if it means 1 product every few months. At least it's something.

To be completely abandoned (again, with D&D already having started that trend with 4e), there's only so much this gamer's soul can take.

The new edition sounds and reads like an overhaul, and not some kind of update/clarification/some new stuff/minor-but-important changes kinda thing.

So much for a Bestiary 7. Nice knowing ya, Paizo.

Would it be too much to ask for ONE more Bestiary before Pathinder 2E rolls in? That would be nice. (This time with more Aeons and Inevitables)