Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play: Double-Take

Monday, July 29, 2013

In another week we will see the newest version of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, the document that lays out the baseline rules, assumptions, and adjustments for playing in the organized play campaign. Over the past few months, whether by podcast, convention panel, or cryptic response to a forum post, Mike and I have hinted at many of the updates. By now, for example, practically everyone knows about the disappearance of the Lantern Lodge and Shadow Lodge. The new format for Pathfinder Tales novel boons has been available for download for several months. We even spoiled the new system for wealth and "playing up" during a panel at PaizoCon a few weeks ago. There is, however, at least one thing that we have not teased: Replay.

Already I can hear the hissed intake of breath from some worried readers. We've read, heard, and sometimes even personally made the argument that replay opens the door to myriad forms of abuse. I agree that unlimited replay of more than just Tier 1 scenarios and Tier 1-2 modules would be disruptive. I still remember meeting a Pathfinder Society player who proudly boasted that he and his group had just run through The Godsmouth Heresy six times in the course of a weekend simply to level-grind a host of characters to 2nd level. Campaign leadership has been very careful in exploring replay so that we might avoid classic pitfalls.

What tipped the balance for us was realizing that replay might also address an ongoing push to expand rewards for GMs who have dedicated their time to the campaign. In my estimation, most GMs who have at least one star have had to "eat" a scenario by preparing and GMing it before having the chance to play it. In my experience, those who habitually GM for organized play also have considerable practice when it comes to suppressing personal knowledge. In my time as a volunteer and employee, I find that those who GM first and play later are also among the most dedicated to wanting the whole group to have fun and enjoy experiencing a scenario without spoilers. That got the gears turning.

When Version 5.0 of the Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play goes live, campaign participants who have been recognized for their efforts as a GM by receiving GM stars will be able to replay or "re-GM" a limited number of scenarios—specifically one scenario for each star earned. In this way a participant may earn a third Chronicle sheet from a given scenario: one for playing, one for GMing, and one for either playing or GMing that scenario a second time. No character may ever have two of the same Chronicle sheet, so one must apply each sheet to a different character each time. When earning a third Chronicle in this way, the GM should write "GM Star Replay Credit" on the Chronicle sheet.

Let's say you're a two-star GM—thank you for your help, by the way. You can now replay or re-GM (for credit, that is) two scenarios once each. Perhaps you thought Pathfinder Society Scenario #3–14159: Death by Pie was amazing when you played it the first time, but you are sad to have missed the opportunity to play it with your pastry totem barbarian who took the mathematical prodigy trait. You replay it for credit using one of your replay credits, and now you have one replay left. If you later use that to replay #5–513: The Doppelganger's Prey, you are now out of replays until you earn that third star. Only then would you be able to replay #4–117: All the Doors are Trapped for credit.

At this time, the Guide does not say anything about gaining more replay credits each season. For now that's alright by me; let's see how this works for one season before making promises about what will happen a year from now. As many as five replays won't be enough to make a character completely unbalanced. Instead I envision this being for those who have played/GMed almost everything, managed tables for most of a convention, and saved the last slot to just play.

There may be other rewards tied to GM ties in the Guide, but we'll just have to wait to see those when the new document goes live next week.


Amiri and Ezren are both replaying the scenario pictured above, and our iconic barbarian is trying to remind the wizard not to spoil what's about to happen next for the other players. Ezren is just aghast that all of the other characters put on the masks without first discovering the black lotus extract smeared on the interiors. What a great (nonexistent) scenario...

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2/5 *

Great idea and it promotes people to GM more. Win win.

Options are always good and people have been asking about it for ages.

4/5

I love this. (not just because I'm a three star GM already) but because it is a really great, non-abusive reward for the most active PFS participants.

This should help me expand my chances of playing (or running for) my friends especially at conventions but also when planning out my weekly PFS game night.

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I think this is a really good idea. I'll be interested to see if it ends up giving more replays per star. Maybe the square of the number of stars would be appropriate - 1 for a 1 star up to 25 for a 5 star, given that they've run a lot more games!

5/5

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Should help for those high level bottlenecks that seekers run into...

Eyes of the ten x2 becomes possible at what, 3 stars? I better get crackin.

You would need 4 stars to fully replay Eyes of the Ten.

5/5

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Hmm I have 5 stars.

5 stars= 6 chances of fighting Krune on Hard Mode !!!

Sovereign Court 5/5

redward wrote:
Very elegant solution. Whoever thought this up gets a cookie.

Pie . . . Cookies . . . I say death by chocolate to you all. :-(

(on a diet this summer)

Dark Archive 4/5

Chris Bonnet wrote:

Hmm I have 5 stars.

5 stars= 6 chances of fighting Krune on Hard Mode !!!

And dying horribly every time...

2/5

Overall I like it. Kudos for thinking out of the box.

Shadow Lodge 1/5

Interesting. So, we only have one replay credit available per star? So I could replay ONE scenario?

5/5

Blog wrote:
Perhaps you thought Pathfinder Society Scenario #3–14159: Death by Pie was amazing when you played it the first time, but you are sad to have missed the opportunity to play it with your pastry totem barbarian who took the mathematical prodigy trait.

Best.. Example.. Ever!

I can *definitely* see using this to encourage me to re-run a favorite scenario, like Tide of Morning or City of Strangers. I don't typically need that much encouragement anyways, but this is a nice touch.

The Society is moving along quite well at this point, and I like that the changes announced so far (haven't heard the 'play up' spoiler yet) have been moderate tweaks.

Chris Bonnet wrote:
5 stars= 6 chances of fighting Krune on Hard Mode !!!

Need clarification on that. They said "X Stars = X scenarios that can be replayed" not "X replays of scenarios".

Edit: I'm not sure I agree all of us multi-star GMs are better at keeping out-of-character out-of-mind. Some of us GM so much because we won't play things we've run and that reduces the play options.

5/5

Todd Morgan wrote:
Chris Bonnet wrote:

Hmm I have 5 stars.

5 stars= 6 chances of fighting Krune on Hard Mode !!!

And dying horribly every time...

6 Chances to beat Krune on easy mode !!!

Hopefully my favorite charater. Mary will live, Gunslinger-1 cleric(Besmara)-3 Ninja-3 Master Spy-3. Low chance!

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pathar wrote:

Hmmmmmm.

Interesting. Very interesting.

I like where you're going with this, and I look forward to reading the new guide.

Psst! Hey, Patrick!

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/5 RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 8

Drogon wrote:
pathar wrote:

Hmmmmmm.

Interesting. Very interesting.

I like where you're going with this, and I look forward to reading the new guide.

Psst! Hey, Patrick!

** spoiler omitted **

To Patrick's credit, this isn't a race boon -- just a handful of replay opportunities :)

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

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Justin Riddler wrote:
redward wrote:
Very elegant solution. Whoever thought this up gets a cookie.
You can direct all cookies towards Customer Service and we will make sure they reach their intended victims...

Justin,

Please stop hoarding the reward cookies while only sending me the sketchy "revenge" cookies. A developer can only take so many exploding pastries (iced with the message "Shadow Lodge 4 Life," every one) in a month. If this continues, I shall have to send a sternly worded letter to Customer Service so that they might resolve this issue in a fair, non-biased way.

John

Sovereign Court 5/5 Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds

Walter Sheppard wrote:
Drogon wrote:
pathar wrote:

Hmmmmmm.

Interesting. Very interesting.

I like where you're going with this, and I look forward to reading the new guide.

Psst! Hey, Patrick!

** spoiler omitted **

To Patrick's credit, this isn't a race boon -- just a handful of replay opportunities :)

Nah, we shook on it via private message. He said he'd count anything that wasn't a convention boon as a win for me. Pretty sure I nailed this one, and a year early to boot. (-;

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

Majuba wrote:
Need clarification on that. They said "X Stars = X scenarios that can be replayed" not "X replays of scenarios".

That is correct. For example, I could replay #4–26 once for credit using this system (with 4 other scenarios available for replay), not replay #4–26 five times.

Grand Lodge 5/5

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Should help for those high level bottlenecks that seekers run into...

Eyes of the ten x2 becomes possible at what, 3 stars? I better get crackin.

You could replay all of Eyes of the Ten once becoming a 4-star, as it is 4 parts long.

5/5

Seth Gipson wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Should help for those high level bottlenecks that seekers run into...

Eyes of the ten x2 becomes possible at what, 3 stars? I better get crackin.

You could replay all of Eyes of the Ten once becoming a 4-star, as it is 4 parts long.

But part 1 is double-length! boo! I'm going to start a petition that Eyes can only be replayed fully by 5-star GMs, not you lowly 4-star peasants.

Sczarni 5/5

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Kyle Baird wrote:
David Montgomery wrote:
Through difficult terrain, while heavily encumbered, against permanent Gust of Wind spells?
And gugs! Don't forget the gugs! Oh the horror! That's how Doug Miles lost his left [redacted].

It is also how Dennis Baker killed my Druid's wolverine. He had a bigger grin from that then he does in those Storval Stairs pics from Paizocon.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Kyle Baird wrote:
I'm going to start a petition that Eyes can only be replayed fully by 5-star GMs, not you lowly 4-star peasants.

Watch your back, big man. I'm catching up.

Shadow Lodge 5/5

TOZ wrote:
Kyle Baird wrote:
I'm going to start a petition that Eyes can only be replayed fully by 5-star GMs, not you lowly 4-star peasants.
Watch your back, big man. I'm catching up.

There's no facing in Pathfinder!

Perception check: 1d20 - 4 ⇒ (6) - 4 = 2

See? You're no where near!

Silver Crusade 1/5 *

John Compton wrote:
Majuba wrote:
Need clarification on that. They said "X Stars = X scenarios that can be replayed" not "X replays of scenarios".
That is correct. For example, I could replay #4–26 once for credit using this system (with 4 other scenarios available for replay), not replay #4–26 five times.

I tried to ice my cookies to say "I prepared explosive runes today" but I couldn't find a nozzle for my pastry bag small enough to fit it all on there...

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/5 RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 8

Kyle Baird wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Should help for those high level bottlenecks that seekers run into...

Eyes of the ten x2 becomes possible at what, 3 stars? I better get crackin.

You could replay all of Eyes of the Ten once becoming a 4-star, as it is 4 parts long.
But part 1 is double-length! boo! I'm going to start a petition that Eyes can only be replayed fully by 5-star GMs, not you lowly 4-star peasants.

That hurts me in my feel parts, Kyle. :(

5/5

Kyle Baird wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Should help for those high level bottlenecks that seekers run into...

Eyes of the ten x2 becomes possible at what, 3 stars? I better get crackin.

You could replay all of Eyes of the Ten once becoming a 4-star, as it is 4 parts long.
But part 1 is double-length! boo! I'm going to start a petition that Eyes can only be replayed fully by 5-star GMs, not you lowly 4-star peasants.

They've indicated a desire to replace those anyway. So I wouldn't sweat it. :D

5/5

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Drogon wrote:
pathar wrote:

Hmmmmmm.

Interesting. Very interesting.

I like where you're going with this, and I look forward to reading the new guide.

Psst! Hey, Patrick!

** spoiler omitted **

Indeed, good sir. Name your charity and I will be delighted to contribute.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant

Kyle Baird wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Should help for those high level bottlenecks that seekers run into...

Eyes of the ten x2 becomes possible at what, 3 stars? I better get crackin.

You could replay all of Eyes of the Ten once becoming a 4-star, as it is 4 parts long.
But part 1 is double-length! boo! I'm going to start a petition that Eyes can only be replayed fully by 5-star GMs, not you lowly 4-star peasants.

Man, I haven't even gotten to play it once...

Grand Lodge 2/5

Liked it a lot!

Excellent way to reward GMing, and well balanced.

Shadow Lodge 2/5

I love this idea, as well as how it's being implemented. Great job Mike and others, and good thinking. :)

Is there the possibility that this granting of replayability will be extended to modules someday? I'd love to run "Broken Chains" again someday, and doing it for more GM credit would be super. ^^

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

Quote:
Can we do this for a module?

At this time the text just says "scenario." Mike and I will discuss this when he's back in the office later this week, and from there we'll decide if the text should read "scenario and module." Beyond wanting to revisit a module or three, is there a good reason to include or not include modules in the replay pool?

Silver Crusade 5/5

Hello DixieLandau,

Is that Lamashtu mother of gnolls and monsters you have as your avatar?

I don't know if the "Star" replay will be extended to Modules. It may be extended in the future, I don't know.

I think the general idea is to introduces something in a limited way, in this case being able to replay as a reward for your service (#replayes=#GM Stars), so they can see how it affects the campaign. I think it is far easier to introduce something smaller, an then consider expanding it, rather then introducing something broader and then trying to narrow it.

Congratulations on your first star,

Myles

Grand Lodge 4/5

Cause some modules are just .. so .. cool.

I would love to get another chance to play The Ruby Phoenix Tournament someday for credit.

As it is, like some others, I am looking at a scenario that I got 0 XP/PP for, but mainly because I want to play it with a GM who actually understands the bad guy's special abilities.

Spoiler:
2-26: The Mantis's Prey, and the GM didn't understand the ethereality ability, which really horked our PCs, since he ruled that the 50% damage lasted the whole round. Makes a big difference when it neuters a whole full attack, not just a single attack, per use.

Silver Crusade 5/5

Now I can only speak for myself. Concerning this new addition to the replay rules I for one am excited about this. I have played and GMed quite a bit, and perhaps have gluttonously devoured most of the scenarios. The replay rules as they are, allow me to sit at a table, GM willing, and play with some new players and with friends with out having to worry about hunting down that one spot, on that one table, of that one scenario i haven't played yet. To me this new reward is icing on the cake.

Sovereign Court 5/5

John Compton wrote:
Quote:
Can we do this for a module?
At this time the text just says "scenario." Mike and I will discuss this when he's back in the office later this week, and from there we'll decide if the text should read "scenario and module." Beyond wanting to revisit a module or three, is there a good reason to include or not include modules in the replay pool?

To me it looks like a game day that I get to participate in. So I am for adding modules to the list.

Sovereign Court 5/5 Owner - Enchanted Grounds, President/Owner - Enchanted Grounds

pathar wrote:
Drogon wrote:
pathar wrote:

Hmmmmmm.

Interesting. Very interesting.

I like where you're going with this, and I look forward to reading the new guide.

Psst! Hey, Patrick!

** spoiler omitted **

Indeed, good sir. Name your charity and I will be delighted to contribute.

Excellent! You're a good man. Some teacher somewhere is going to be very happy. I'll be in touch. (-:

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John Compton wrote:
Quote:
Can we do this for a module?
At this time the text just says "scenario." Mike and I will discuss this when he's back in the office later this week, and from there we'll decide if the text should read "scenario and module." Beyond wanting to revisit a module or three, is there a good reason to include or not include modules in the replay pool?

3 XP/4 PP versus 1XP/1 (sometimes 2)PP. I dinnae see what difference it makes, but that whole level is a significant difference.

Silver Crusade

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I love this as an incentive for GMs. However there are SO many scenarios out there that I think only being able to replay a max of five (a season?) is not enough. A one star GM may hold on to their one replay and miss some really nice play opportunities. Please think about making it twice the number of stars. So a one star would get two replays and a five star would get ten. Ten replays is a lot but you have to GM a lot to get that 5th star.

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TimrehIX wrote:
I love this as an incentive for GMs. However there are SO many scenarios out there that I think only being able to replay a max of five (a season?) is not enough. A one star GM may hold on to their one replay and miss some really nice play opportunities. Please think about making it twice the number of stars. So a one star would get two replays and a five star would get ten. Ten replays is a lot but you have to GM a lot to get that 5th star.

There are two camps in this debate. One side wants unlimited replay because otherwise they are "never able to play." The other side says that unlimited replay "will ruin everything PFS is and can ever be."

Combined with the ability to replay 1st level scenarios and modules, this is a very good compromise. Opening the door any wider will create a shouting match that isn't any fun to watch, listen to, or be involved in. Believe me, as I have seen/heard/participated in it too many times to count, now.

Additionally, this is a clear nod (and compromise) to another debate: that of whether it is worthwhile to offer GMs any kind of reward over and above what they have. And still another: how to incentivize players to become more involved in their community (by GMing/coordinating).

There is a lot here that is really good when you look at it carefully, and the men who put this in place should be commended, not chastised for having not done still more.

5/5

Drogon wrote:
There is a lot here that is really good when you look at it carefully, and the men who put this in place should be commended, not chastised for having not done still more.

Agreed.

But I'm honestly very surprised it took until message #86 for someone to do it anyway.

The Exchange 2/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, Contributor

Good to see some additional benefits for those putting time and effort into the campaign.

4/5 **

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:

[(re: Eyes of the Ten)

Man, I haven't even gotten to play it once...

Play it at GenCon! Right now there are two runs of it, and really only enough players signed up for one. I'm bringing all the 3D terrain for this and I really don't want to leave it in the car and run First Steps instead...

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/55/5 **

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Jeffrey Fox wrote:

Man I need to run We Be Goblins 30 times so I can get to replay Eyes of the Ten, this time as Taldor...

Or use it to re-run Blakros Matrimony and Darkest Vengeance cause they were great to run.

I hadn't thought of that... I have 1 character that has gone thru all of Eyes, and have another already at 12.

Shadow Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant

Scott Young wrote:
Eric Clingenpeel wrote:

[(re: Eyes of the Ten)

Man, I haven't even gotten to play it once...

Play it at GenCon! Right now there are two runs of it, and really only enough players signed up for one. I'm bringing all the 3D terrain for this and I really don't want to leave it in the car and run First Steps instead...

It'll still be a while, Scott. My highest just made 10th lvl with Rivalry's End GM Credit.

Plus, I've only got three free slots and my wife and I have plans for most of them.

Grand Lodge 5/5

Curaigh wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Quote:
Can we do this for a module?
At this time the text just says "scenario." Mike and I will discuss this when he's back in the office later this week, and from there we'll decide if the text should read "scenario and module." Beyond wanting to revisit a module or three, is there a good reason to include or not include modules in the replay pool?
3 XP/4 PP versus 1XP/1 (sometimes 2)PP. I dinnae see what difference it makes, but that whole level is a significant difference.

I tend to agree. I think it is an awesome incentive, but allowing for modules would make the replay worth differing values. Perhaps replaying a module should cost three replays, one for each XP earned. That would make it equitable.

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ***

Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Jeremy Chapman wrote:
Curaigh wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Quote:
Can we do this for a module?
At this time the text just says "scenario." Mike and I will discuss this when he's back in the office later this week, and from there we'll decide if the text should read "scenario and module." Beyond wanting to revisit a module or three, is there a good reason to include or not include modules in the replay pool?
3 XP/4 PP versus 1XP/1 (sometimes 2)PP. I dinnae see what difference it makes, but that whole level is a significant difference.
I tend to agree. I think it is an awesome incentive, but allowing for modules would make the replay worth differing values. Perhaps replaying a module should cost three replays, one for each XP earned. That would make it equitable.

I don't understand why we need to do this. Sure, someone can get more XP out of replaying if he uses his replay credits for modules instead of scenarios. Who cares?

As to the original announcement - this is another bullet on the list of reasons why I trust in Mike, Mark and John. This is brilliant.

Sczarni 2/5

Bwahahahahahahahaha! Next time, [redacted] shall die! And this time, it WILL be on [redacted]!!!

Spoiler:
Krune. HARD MODE.

But, in all seriousness, I absolutely love this idea as it has been presented. Abuse of the replay rule will be fairly difficult as you can only replay (or re-GM) a specified, low, and reasonable number of scenarios, even if you happen to have 5 stars. Heck, even if it turns into a number of scenarios per season equal to your (current) number of stars, that's still a small, yet meaningful, number.

Sure, some people will attempt to use this for cheese, while others simply for fun, but I think even then it'll still be a great reward for the folks who work hard to help support the Organized Play campaign by making sure it happens.

+1 a million times over.

5/5

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Personally, I'm almost certainly going to use this for re-running things. I don't particularly enjoy re-playing things, or even playing once after GMing. (I still do it, because I like chronicle sheets, but hey.)

Maybe I can see jumping on a replay table for crazy fun at the last minute, but that's rewarding all by itself. But I really like the idea of being rewarded for GMing things again.

Sczarni 2/5

Iammars wrote:
Jeremy Chapman wrote:
Curaigh wrote:
John Compton wrote:
Quote:
Can we do this for a module?
At this time the text just says "scenario." Mike and I will discuss this when he's back in the office later this week, and from there we'll decide if the text should read "scenario and module." Beyond wanting to revisit a module or three, is there a good reason to include or not include modules in the replay pool?
3 XP/4 PP versus 1XP/1 (sometimes 2)PP. I dinnae see what difference it makes, but that whole level is a significant difference.
I tend to agree. I think it is an awesome incentive, but allowing for modules would make the replay worth differing values. Perhaps replaying a module should cost three replays, one for each XP earned. That would make it equitable.

I don't understand why we need to do this. Sure, someone can get more XP out of replaying if he uses his replay credits for modules instead of scenarios. Who cares?

As to the original announcement - this is another bullet on the list of reasons why I trust in Mike, Mark and John. This is brilliant.

+1 to Iammars sentiment. While I can see some people replaying modules purely for the mechanical benefit, I personally know of one module I really want to play on two different characters for purely flavor/fluff/fun reasons.

I have a (currently) 14th level Witch that is never seen adventuring without a particular 14th level Dragon Disciple and said DD's player would like these two characters to go through the Moonscar with our "Dream Team" of other players/characters. I agree, it would be a lot of fun to see the table that so badly derailed EotT take on the challenges of that module.

The thing is, I also happen to have an Asmodean Demon Hunter (currently 13th level Asmodeus-worshiping Tiefling Magus) that wants to spread some (un)holy righteous butt-kicking amongst as many demons as he can possibly encounter.

I adore the roleplay aspects of both of these characters, and have been debating which one to take through the module as a player, and the painful choice has been nearly impossible to make. Do I take the flamboyant demon-hating dandy, or "The Spock" of the dream team?

If the decision to include modules is made, this would make me the happiest camper in existence since it would let me actually play my two favorite characters through the same challenges with different experiences each time.

On the other hand, I also know that gaining the benefits of getting credit for a module three times could be used for the purposes of unadulterated cheese. But here's the thing... They'll only be able to get their stinky, squishy, cheese a few times. The folks likely to do that for the mechanical benefit are probably already abusing every little loophole in the system they can find, and even if modules aren't allowed in the GM star replay, they'll still find ways to break the system with just the replay of particular scenarios.

My vote is almost always in favor of allowing the people trying to do things for fun to be allowed to do so, and here's to hoping modules are included in the GM star replay rules. If nothing else, this next season could be the test, and if there are problems with allowing modules to be replayed, I'm sure they will make themselves apparent in a short amount of time and will no doubt be fixed by our diligent campaign staff.

I understand that the argument could also be made for the opposite; only allow scenarios and maybe see about adding modules later. This is, of course, a perfectly valid option as well and if that's the decision, I'll roll with it. I'll be sad that I probably won't get to play my favorite high levels as often as I'd like, but I'll wait if I have to.

Still, I'd prefer to have modules included from the start. Just my two coppers.

Silver Crusade 5/5 5/5 **

Excellent. Now all the Shadow Lodge players can get together and replay Rivalry's End :-). With just a "tiny" bit of metagaming we can have a nice, satisfactory ending (honest, its PURE coincidence that I happened to get a +5 on my <redacted> skill before going to <redacted>

If we're REALLY lucky (probably through some slightly loose language) there will even be a tiny window where the Season 5 Guide is active but we can STILL get the cool boon :-).

Grand Lodge 5/5

Kyle Baird wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Should help for those high level bottlenecks that seekers run into...

Eyes of the ten x2 becomes possible at what, 3 stars? I better get crackin.

You could replay all of Eyes of the Ten once becoming a 4-star, as it is 4 parts long.
But part 1 is double-length! boo! I'm going to start a petition that Eyes can only be replayed fully by 5-star GMs, not you lowly 4-star peasants.

I'd be fine with that, aside from the fact that I think we need to make as few exception type rules in the campaign as possible, and this would just add to the list. (All scenarios count as 1 star for replay, except for Eyes P1, since its a double length one.

There are numerous other ones in the Guide that just bloat the thing. Im hoping we can streamline some of that in this coming version. ;)

Liberty's Edge 2/5 *

Seth Said wrote:
There are numerous other ones in the Guide that just bloat the thing. Im hoping we can streamline some of that in this coming version. ;)

Whoa.. I hope you arnt impuning the honor of anyone who.. bloats there. :)

I will agree though. Simplicity is best.

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