Crits Ahoy!

Huzzah card decks!

I can't wait for my copy!

Is there a default way to calculate DCs? What would be the Fortitude DC be of the decapitation effect be, for example?

I can't wait for my copy!

Is there a default way to calculate DCs? What would be the Fortitude DC be of the decapitation effect be, for example?

Probably the total of the attack roll.

Probably the total of the attack roll.

That would be a guaranteed failed save then, given that the attack roll was a nat 20.

10 + triggering attack modifier seems more likely. Or just class DC / monster's highest ability DC.

Fumble Deck says it's the class DC

MY TEEF!

Very weak effect, but I love the name nonetheless!

I'm pretty excited to punch my initials into someone or knock their head off with a tiger style monk.

I can't wait for my copy!

Is there a default way to calculate DCs? What would be the Fortitude DC be of the decapitation effect be, for example?

According to the rules card, you use your class DC (or spell-casting DC for spells).

MY TEEF!

Very weak effect, but I love the name nonetheless!

A spellcaster might not think so! But bear in mind it still does double damage. The one that gets me is “knicked an artery: normal damage.” Plus the effect of course, but it reads a little funny.

Applied_People wrote:

MY TEEF!

Very weak effect, but I love the name nonetheless!

A spellcaster might not think so! But bear in mind it still does double damage. The one that gets me is “knicked an artery: normal damage.” Plus the effect of course, but it reads a little funny.

The rules card states that the critical hit does double damage like a regular critical unless it says normal or triple damage, it which case you change to that. From what I can see, if it does normal damage the effect is often stronger.

Fumble Deck says it's the class DC

I guess for monsters it'd be the DC by Level, with adjustment if necessary. For physical attacks, at least.

She put 900 silver on the fifth horse in the sixth race,
I think its name is "Crits Ahoy!"
Came in six lengths ahead, we spent the whole next week smoking pesh.
At first I thought that she hit off some tip that she got from some other boy. We were overjoyed!

I'm not sure I want to use these if there's a chance my players will get one shotted because of a nat 20.

Wow, I have never liked random crit effects in D&D or Pathfinder, but these look so... tempting! Paizo, you already have most of my money, please don't take everything, otherwise Asgetrion Jr. will starve along his father... ;)

I'm not sure I want to use these if there's a chance my players will get one shotted because of a nat 20.

Ah, players... those b*stards who always try to outwit the GM, cheat their way through adventures and ultimately break the game with their oh-so-clever "builds" -- I think it's time the game will start breaking them! ;P

Unikatze wrote:

I'm not sure I want to use these if there's a chance my players will get one shotted because of a nat 20.

Ah, players... those b*stards who always try to outwit the GM, cheat their way through adventures and ultimately break the game with their oh-so-clever "builds" -- I think it's time the game will start breaking them! ;P

After DMing a 5e game last night at my FLGS. I kinda agree with this statement! I have one player (ranger/archer) doing like at least 20+ damage on arrow attacks. Rogue/assassin does well with his damage as well. Other players are doing great as well.

Oddly, big boss villain (mummy lord) does 49 pts to a cleric & she throws a tissy over it. I say bring em on!!

After DMing a 5e game last night at my FLGS. I kinda agree with this statement! I have one player (ranger/archer) doing like at least 20+ damage on arrow attacks. Rogue/assassin does well with his damage as well. Other players are doing great as well.

Oddly, big boss villain (mummy lord) does 49 pts to a cleric & she throws a tissy over it. I say bring em on!!

That cleric wouldn't like my games. I love reducing the players' characters within an inch of their life. Not necessarily all of them at the same time, but if the monsters aren't dealing damage something is not right.

I think it would be interesting to introduce some random bad things with crits, both when from the players and from my critters... think I'm buying this.

Applied_People wrote:

MY TEEF!

Very weak effect, but I love the name nonetheless!

A spellcaster might not think so! But bear in mind it still does double damage. The one that gets me is “knicked an artery: normal damage.” Plus the effect of course, but it reads a little funny.

Sure. But what are the chances that you roll a natural 20 with a bludgeoning weapon against a spellcaster that can't cast a 1-action Heal on themselves (hint: the chances are much less than otherwise). That's the only time this would really do anything. And even then, it only has a 25% chance of having an effect.

All I'm saying is the likelihood of this doing anything worthwhile is vanishingly small. That being said, I love the flavor...and it's a free possibility for an additional effect. So hey, that's a bonus.

Wizards beware.

The Rot Grub wrote:

I can't wait for my copy!

Is there a default way to calculate DCs? What would be the Fortitude DC be of the decapitation effect be, for example?

According to the rules card, you use your class DC (or spell-casting DC for spells).

Clarification: it says "The save DC for an effect inflicted by a PC is their class DC".

It would be reasonable to your your tradition DC for an actual spell. But most of these cards involve effects, not spells.

A spellcasting PC would still use its (crappy) class DC for any effect listed on these cards.

The sorcerer, for instance, will never get trained in its class DC, so even a level 20 sorcerer will likely still only have a class DC of ~20.

Tl;dr:

* every class gets a class DC, even spellcasters who never use it (outside of these critical effects)
* some classes remain untrained in their class DC throughout their entire life