Fey Dawnglow wrote:
For the good of the group then, I proposed this in my last post:
I propose we grab a mirror (whether it be the big one or a different one on this floor) and set up in the gallery room with the cannon. Do the "incapacitate" ritual (I might need some handholding through that) and get the two to touch and then see what happens from there.
If anyone has other suggestions or ways to modify the proposed plan, I'm definitely open to thoughts.
I'll wait for a consensus of 3 or more to decide which ritual you will perform, if any. Again, keep in mind I am not pitting you against a level 6 creature or something like that. This would literally be the 3nd fight of the campaign. That would be a short end.
If you wish to take on Non-Ghaf as is, you still have a reasonable chance at victory. The rituals are there to give you a slight edge doing that.
Endoin wrote:
If we are doing one of the rituals:
What skill do any of them use for the primary caster?
How many secondary casters do they need and what skill do each of them use?
Are you using any houserules for the Ritual casting or do we have a miserably low chance of success as per the default rules?
Is there any information in the book about how to switch Ghaf and not-Ghaf back?
Meaning, if we get into a fight with not-Ghaf is the objective of the fight to kill him or to do something else?
If the objective is something else, do we know what that something else is?
If we take the book and run, do we have any idea how Jassim will react?
How about the Caia Outfit leaders? Are they going to be happy with the report or are they going to be upset that we didn't do more?
Are there any mechanics that we need to use to find out the information that our characters would know by actually being in that world?
And I don't have any idea what most of the other players are wanting to do. Probably because they are in the same position that I am that it is really hard to make a meaningful decision when we don't know how to mechanically do any of the options.
Relevant Meme.
Okay there's a bit here to unpack, so I will go one by one while trying to maintain some sort of mystery aspect.
If we are doing one of the rituals: What skill do any of them use for the primary caster? How many secondary casters do they need and what skill do each of them use?
Those questions are answered in this post in the spoiler available to all of you. I just spoilered it to save space.
Are you using any houserules for the Ritual casting or do we have a miserably low chance of success as per the default rules?
The DCs are not those of standard rituals. You have a reasonable chance to carry on with them successfully. Of course, the level 3+ will be harder, but still very possible. You have hero points if you need to use them.
Is there any information in the book about how to switch Ghaf and not-Ghaf back?
None at all. The man in the mirrors informed you that the two need to touch once the entity present in this world is bound. I will leave "bound" to your interpretation.
Meaning, if we get into a fight with not-Ghaf is the objective of the fight to kill him or to do something else? If the objective is something else, do we know what that something else is?
The characters don't know this. It was not discussed anywhere. See response above.
If we take the book and run, do we have any idea how Jassim will react?
You can ask him. He still has a job to do, even though he saw things tonight that may help convince him to abandon his post if you have good arguments.
How about the Caia Outfit leaders? Are they going to be happy with the report or are they going to be upset that we didn't do more?
Your objective from the Caia outfit is to bring the real book back, preferably without being seen. If you are seen (which I think is pretty clear at this point), preferably without bloodshed.
Are there any mechanics that we need to use to find out the information that our characters would know by actually being in that world?
I don't think you have means of reaching out to Kullif to find out, so I will say no.
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I want to say that this is not a scripted game. Your PCs are your avatars in the world without invisible walls, and they have their own agency and free will. You decide what happens here.
