Way of the Wicked group 3

Game Master Diamondust

Lustfully eying getting wings and +2 to three phyiscal stats in one level.

Question: Who does not have darkvision? I actually red up the rules on the darkness spell, and its quite potent if we have darkvision and our foe does not.

I think we're all good on DV.

Just some polite trashtalking.

You might be mistaken. It is a barbed devil not a bearded devil.

In this case, no trashtalking. Enough intelligence and kn planes available to know that a bearded devil he can trashtalk, a barbed devil he cannot.

I did state that he stays mum if he isnt certain about it being a bearded devil.

Sorry, I have been kinda MIA the last few days. My puppers somehow got hurt the other day, and we were like mere moments from takin her to the emergency vet. Thankfully, she seems to be on the mend, but it took a lot of my mental headspace, and much stress.

I'll catch up late tonight and post.

Ay-yi-yi! I hope she's getting better.

@GM. I'm not going to roll knowledge rolls for some of these recent things mentioned that may not even be in the game. I just wanted that cleared up. For all we know, Nocticula and Baphomet don't exist in your world and Ardran is using Golarion knowledge for that purpose. However, if you, the GM want to have some other homebrewed organization, I'll leave you to that. If you want to use Golarion's demons/devils and agree that such forces exist and can be knowable to us, it wouldn't be a hassle to roll for Ardran's skill check. I'm not going to assume as much though. These are extremely high-level creatures on a different plane of existence. To know of their relationship would take an intense study of the planes or to be part of privy to the goings-ons in their churches, and may be beyond the reach of us mere lower-level creatures. This isn't to cause contention with Ardran, I just don't want to assume such epic-level things.

@Opal
Assuming that Nocticula and Baphomet are part of the world, and I am fairly confident that they are, even if they will not play much of a role most likely.

I also think that you are overestimating the DCs required to know these things. They are arguably easier because these are powerful entities.
Ardran worships Nocticula, knowing about a historically significant even from him is DC 10. Her currently being at war with Baphomet is probably less then that even. Arguably, he doesnt even need to roll because minions are generally told whom they are supposed to be at war with.
Knowing the hostility between Asmodeus and Baphomet? Mythology of debatable commonality DC15-DC20, either planes or religion.
Less if you are a worshipper of either.

Knowing actuall physical capabilities of Nocticula or Baphomet? Thats where their CR actually factors in, and Ardran thus has no idea whatsorever.

Arguing difficulty isn't the purpose of the above post. The purpose is that I'm not assuming. I want to know for certain. It isn't meant to be a slight upon you or anything. It's a courtesy to the GM and to our roleplay to ask this. At a player's table, in short (and if we were in Starfinder campaign), I'd simply be asking GM, "Captain, do you concur?"

If so, I roll, if not, we learn more about the GM's view of his world. No worries either way.

Just an FYI: In the default Way of the Wicked setting, there is no Nocticula, no Baphomet, no Sarenrae, nor is there any other Demon Lord, god or goddess.

There is literally just Mitra and Asmodeus. That's it.

However, the GM has said that this is his own world, so there might be other divine beings.

That said, it is incredibly rude to assume things, both about the setting and how NPCs might reply/respond to your PC. *Maybe* making such assumptions about a randomly summoned devil is alright(even if you messed up which type). However, continuously and repeatedly speaking for two of the most important NPCs in the AP(at least to this point) is beyond the height of rudeness.

Not gonna lie, part of the reason I haven't posted(aside from my above stress and concern over Sammy puppers) is due to your assumptive posts. I would go to make mine, and see a new one from you, with your replying for Tiadora or the Cardinal. Those posts annoy me so much, I end up noping out of wanting to reply.

I would note that I Pmed the "dialouge" to the GM for approval, which you obviously couldnt know.

He requested alterations, which I of course added. I then posted it.
I see why this could seem rude, as it would indeed be very rude if I didnt PM the gm the text first.
I find this method superior for having longer dialouges or worldbuilding by dialouge then relatively short posts at each other.

It is often ponderous or slow to have actual verbal back and forth in play by posts, so sending the GM a PM with a proposed dialouge, getting feedback from him, implementing that feedback and then posting it is something that, as far as I know is done pretty frequently.

The world is generic outside of Talinguarde, a land that keeps to itself so any other continents are not a part of the AP. Character's can be from other lands and I allow creativity to help shape it, if only for the sake of your backstory. Saying that I will try to implement elements from your backstories to personalise some parts of the story.

As for gods, I am using the paizo pantheon, but yes the main players here are Asmodeus and Mitra. Ardran was selected to play and his demon blood has to come from somewhere and I'm ok with his backstory on it. For now he is serving the cause of Asmodeus so that may or may not be a problem down the line for him.

The Cardinal dialogue was checked and approved. I have never seen this done before though, but I found it harmless and a small bit of side rollplay between Ardran and the Cardinal and has no effect on other characters. This should not be done in group discussions/environments of course such as the one with the devil which their reactions should never be assumed.

As for spoilers in gameplay about things only those high up in a cult would know, if that is outside your characters knowledge it's best to ignore. Assume that anything in the pathfinder wiki or from paizo is canon regarding things like this.

I am completely fine with a character providing a thorough background and triggers for others to react.

We as the other players and of course the GM can react if we wish.

My character has a no-nonsense attitude and despises demons so she just is not so eager to jump on these triggers. ;-)

Assuming I heroism Opal, its a +17 in the check if I also aid another.

I'm okay if people don't want to go with my suggestion, but I do think it's a good way to avoid suspicion.

I'll clear up the religion thing.

Mitra is the state endorsed god that everyone is told to worship and follow.

Other good aligned gods are allowed to be worshipped as secondary gods to Mitra.

Neutral aligned gods are discouraged/frowned upon but not outlawed. There are efforts to convert these followers to Mitra peacefullyish.

Evil aligned gods are outlawed and their followed persecuted, rounded up and even executed. Especially Asmodeus, Mitra's main enemy.

So followers of Calistria, god of lust, revenge and trickery will be looked down upon since those are not righteous traits. Mitran authorities might look closely at you and make sure you aren't looking to cause trouble and tell you how your life could be much better following Mitra.

A bit anxious about being a half balor on an infiltration mission, but here we go

Eh, you've got +13 disguise with the iron circlet, +10 to bluff and sense motive, decent diplomacy and sense motive and stealth synergy. You aren't a lead face character but you are far from untrained. We should try to keep you from being alone in a room with n inquisitor, but with support, you should be fine.

Ardran wrote:

A bit anxious about being a half balor on an infiltration mission, but here we go

Eh, you've got +13 disguise with the iron circlet, +10 to bluff and sense motive, decent diplomacy and sense motive and stealth synergy. You aren't a lead face character but you are far from untrained. We should try to keep you from being alone in a room with n inquisitor, but with support, you should be fine.

Thanks for the vote of confidence :)

I think that we're ready to move on to the inevitable river encounter.

Been a crazy week. Will have an update tonight sometime.

Never say when you're going to post! It tempts fate to throw even more stuff your way.

Yeap! Its like saying "eh, that dungeon was easy!" :)

Can we have a map? Ardran would be subtle jockeying for position at this point, as he is unaware of any preparations made to have one non compromising crate.

I was considering using ghost sound as a distraction, but since the mithrans almost certainly have vision on him and ghost sound is V/S/M, it would be obious he is casting a spell.

Can we have a map? Ardran would be subtle jockeying for position at this point, as he is unaware of any preparations made to have one non compromising crate.

I was considering using ghost sound as a distraction, but since the mithrans almost certainly have vision on him and ghost sound is V/S/M, it would be obious he is casting a spell.

Yes, neither bloodrager nor skald seems very subtle. But Opal did telepathically tell us she was going to use an illusion to conceal the contents.

I edited my post to telepathically fill people in on my plan as well.

Ardran wrote:

Can we have a map? Ardran would be subtle jockeying for position at this point, as he is unaware of any preparations made to have one non compromising crate.

I was considering using ghost sound as a distraction, but since the mithrans almost certainly have vision on him and ghost sound is V/S/M, it would be obious he is casting a spell.

Yes, neither bloodrager nor skald seems very subtle. But Opal did telepathically tell us she was going to use an illusion to conceal the contents.

I edited my post to telepathically fill people in on my plan as well.

Ardran can perhaps contribute by being a distraction, but in character Ardran would rather leave this to the subterfuge specialists. He will have more then enough time in the spotlight once violence breaks out in this encounter or another one.

Just checking in on how we're doing.

I am doing well, how are you doing? :P

I am thinking we are waiting to see what Vezura is doing. I know Ardran's player mentioned they are just observing just above here in a post. Maybe the GM is busy also?

Ardran is currently ready for action, I just dont want to be the one "pulling the trigger" either by initiating hostilities or by failing a bluff.

Ready for action!

I too am here, but am tryin to help us *avoid* some action! lol

It has been since the 23rd since we heard from the GM. Not sure what could be going on that they don't at least post on their phone in the discussion room, but sometimes things can be disastrous in life (which is strange since he's online all the time on discord). I understand regardless. I will say though that if this absence continues for a little bit more, I'll be stepping back and seeking other roleplaying opportunities. Numerous people have reached out to him in a myriad of ways--here and on discord--and have heard nothing. I will give it a few more days but then I'll go my own way if things don't improve.

As stated, I'll be going my own way now. Still no response from the GM on any device or method. Life can be life, but still, a simple word would have been nice. I'm going to look for other opportunities and I hope you all have a good time on the boards.

I'll be joining Opal in leaving this game, sadly. While I love the overall concept, the build rules, and the group, not hearing anything from the GM is rough.

Also, Opal and Aenil are kinda a package deal, and without her, my desire to play this game has dropped drastically. Even if the GM comes back and is roaring to go.

I’m still here waiting.

*sigh* I'll keep this in my list and look for any movement.

Same

Hey again guys, sorry about the lengthy delay. I was very sick for the last 2 weeks. Thankfully i'm doing much better now. Should we continue?

I am there!

I'm here. You might need to PM a couple of people, though.

Of course! I’m sorry that you were sick. Hope you are better!! Still here!