DM Fang Dragon's: War for the Crown

Game Master FangDragon

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Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7
Diana Lotheed wrote:
I'm playing blind as well, but I share Lope's worries here. As you can get from my post, I feel comfortable arguing in favor of letting Guisarne go if we agree to it, but it seems the riskier option, unless taking him to court is really not going to work due to his influence. I don't think we have anyway of preventing him from striking back if we let him go.

I don't believe we can allow Guisarme to go back to Birdsong. Bartleby will compel him to stay in all likelihood and then we've gained nothing. Best outcome is if he chooses based on our persuasive arguments to leave the county on his own. I think we can guarantee him safe passage and then who cares what happens to him. Or Triphylla and Cyrene can escort him somewhere and we pull a Keyser Söze on him.


Female Tiefling Vigilante | HP: 38/38| AC: 20 | CMB: 4 CMD: 19 | F: +2, R: +8, W: +7 | Init: +5 | Ling/KnEn +4, KnNo +8, Per +11, Blf +12[16], Dip +12, Dsg +14 [34+], Sth +16, SM +12[16] |Koriana's Blade +10, d?+5+3d4/8 |Active conditions:

I'm NOT playing entirely blond here so I'm going to stay quiet. ;)

Unless asked IC


HP 43/43 AC 24 21 TAC 19 FF 16 13 | CMD 21 | F +5 R +5 W +4 | P 2/6 L1 3+0/4+2 L2 0/2 | Init +4 Senses +0 |
Skills:
Acrobatics+6,Bluff+8/+10,Climb+3,DisableDevice+5,Intimidate+4,K.Arcana+10,K .dungeon+8,K.planes+9,K.local/geo/history/nobility/religion+5,Linguistics+8 /+10,Perf.Oratory+12,Ride+8,Spellcraft+12,Swim+3,UMD+8
Human Magus (Kensai/Bladebound) 5 | spider climb 50 min, mage armor 45 min
DM Fang Dragon wrote:
Can you clarify if you're having this conversation in Sir Gisaire's presence?

We moved a bit aside to discuss this privately before. But if it helps streamline things, we can just go with him hearing.

Anyway, if others agree with the proposal, my plan was to just basically repeat to him this idea, so if it helps, just assume Lope, or someone else, will communicate the decision in those lines.


Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7

I wonder if we're being given an opportunity to turn Guisarme against Bartleby to expose the Count's gross mismanagement. Feels like a reach, and at this point I'd be happy for him to just be gone. But if we have a chance to leverage him against the Count that might be worth trying. Give Guisarme the chance at that redemption arc previously mentioned by DM. Might appeal to Guisarme's survival instinct.

Triphylla is ready to switch to bad cop at any time.


HP 43/43 AC 24 21 TAC 19 FF 16 13 | CMD 21 | F +5 R +5 W +4 | P 2/6 L1 3+0/4+2 L2 0/2 | Init +4 Senses +0 |
Skills:
Acrobatics+6,Bluff+8/+10,Climb+3,DisableDevice+5,Intimidate+4,K.Arcana+10,K .dungeon+8,K.planes+9,K.local/geo/history/nobility/religion+5,Linguistics+8 /+10,Perf.Oratory+12,Ride+8,Spellcraft+12,Swim+3,UMD+8
Human Magus (Kensai/Bladebound) 5 | spider climb 50 min, mage armor 45 min

Don't get your hopes up, but let's try that redemption thing.


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Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7

Pretty funny line, Lope.


Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7

On to the Baronness?


HP 43/43 AC 24 21 TAC 19 FF 16 13 | CMD 21 | F +5 R +5 W +4 | P 2/6 L1 3+0/4+2 L2 0/2 | Init +4 Senses +0 |
Skills:
Acrobatics+6,Bluff+8/+10,Climb+3,DisableDevice+5,Intimidate+4,K.Arcana+10,K .dungeon+8,K.planes+9,K.local/geo/history/nobility/religion+5,Linguistics+8 /+10,Perf.Oratory+12,Ride+8,Spellcraft+12,Swim+3,UMD+8
Human Magus (Kensai/Bladebound) 5 | spider climb 50 min, mage armor 45 min

Yes! Let's go! :D


Female Human Oracle 5 | HP 38/38 AC 16 T 14 FF 12 | CMB +3 CMD 15 | F +4 R +7 W +5 | init +2 | Per +8; darkvision 60 | Spells 1st 8/8, 2nd 4/4 | Additional Effects:
Skills:
Acrobatics +9 Bluff +11 Diplo +13 (-4 l/g) Intimidate +6 Kn: Local +6 Kn: Planes +9 Kn: Rel +9 Perc +8 Sense motive +7; BG Kn:Nobility +9 Artistry: Charcoal Drawings +9, Perform (dance) +4

Working on a post, it is just taking me a bit to get it ready. I'll have it up sometime in the next few hours I imagine.


Female Human Oracle 5 | HP 38/38 AC 16 T 14 FF 12 | CMB +3 CMD 15 | F +4 R +7 W +5 | init +2 | Per +8; darkvision 60 | Spells 1st 8/8, 2nd 4/4 | Additional Effects:
Skills:
Acrobatics +9 Bluff +11 Diplo +13 (-4 l/g) Intimidate +6 Kn: Local +6 Kn: Planes +9 Kn: Rel +9 Perc +8 Sense motive +7; BG Kn:Nobility +9 Artistry: Charcoal Drawings +9, Perform (dance) +4

I am confused, where are the assassins going to attack and what is going on with the Baroness?


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Female Tiefling Vigilante | HP: 38/38| AC: 20 | CMB: 4 CMD: 19 | F: +2, R: +8, W: +7 | Init: +5 | Ling/KnEn +4, KnNo +8, Per +11, Blf +12[16], Dip +12, Dsg +14 [34+], Sth +16, SM +12[16] |Koriana's Blade +10, d?+5+3d4/8 |Active conditions:

I found out that Lope and Voinum were going to be targeted.

Evidence from today suggests that Lope is target one, so Cyrene's plan is to wait, foil the attempt on Lope and then, if need be, move on to help Voinum.


Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7

We could hang with Voinum and catch them all at once.


Female Human Oracle 5 | HP 38/38 AC 16 T 14 FF 12 | CMB +3 CMD 15 | F +4 R +7 W +5 | init +2 | Per +8; darkvision 60 | Spells 1st 8/8, 2nd 4/4 | Additional Effects:
Skills:
Acrobatics +9 Bluff +11 Diplo +13 (-4 l/g) Intimidate +6 Kn: Local +6 Kn: Planes +9 Kn: Rel +9 Perc +8 Sense motive +7; BG Kn:Nobility +9 Artistry: Charcoal Drawings +9, Perform (dance) +4

So are we really going to let Triphylla go to the baroness alone? I think we would be better off staying together and, truthfully, if we aren't here for Lope's assassins then they will likely try again, or show up at the Baroness' and can be cleaned up all at once.


HP 43/43 AC 24 21 TAC 19 FF 16 13 | CMD 21 | F +5 R +5 W +4 | P 2/6 L1 3+0/4+2 L2 0/2 | Init +4 Senses +0 |
Skills:
Acrobatics+6,Bluff+8/+10,Climb+3,DisableDevice+5,Intimidate+4,K.Arcana+10,K .dungeon+8,K.planes+9,K.local/geo/history/nobility/religion+5,Linguistics+8 /+10,Perf.Oratory+12,Ride+8,Spellcraft+12,Swim+3,UMD+8
Human Magus (Kensai/Bladebound) 5 | spider climb 50 min, mage armor 45 min

Certainly, that might be not the best of ideas. I do not know why this party has a tendency for breaking rule number 1 xD


Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7

I don't like it, but I don't want to have an ally die if it can be prevented. It's not like we have insight into the assassins' schedules. I also don't know why Voinum would be targeted. Maybe she does. Anyway, I thought the consensus was that we were going to visit the Baroness and not sure what changed the plan.


Female Human Oracle 5 | HP 38/38 AC 16 T 14 FF 12 | CMB +3 CMD 15 | F +4 R +7 W +5 | init +2 | Per +8; darkvision 60 | Spells 1st 8/8, 2nd 4/4 | Additional Effects:
Skills:
Acrobatics +9 Bluff +11 Diplo +13 (-4 l/g) Intimidate +6 Kn: Local +6 Kn: Planes +9 Kn: Rel +9 Perc +8 Sense motive +7; BG Kn:Nobility +9 Artistry: Charcoal Drawings +9, Perform (dance) +4

The normally slow rate of pbps meaning a lot has happened to distract us? I'll admit I am leaning towards going to baroness as well. I'll bring it up in a post sometime today.


Female Tiefling Vigilante | HP: 38/38| AC: 20 | CMB: 4 CMD: 19 | F: +2, R: +8, W: +7 | Init: +5 | Ling/KnEn +4, KnNo +8, Per +11, Blf +12[16], Dip +12, Dsg +14 [34+], Sth +16, SM +12[16] |Koriana's Blade +10, d?+5+3d4/8 |Active conditions:

I think the journey from one place to another takes the better part of a day at least so going to Voinum would likely mean Lope is gone when/if the assassins come back. The upside is at least we know if they're working in Stachys they probably aren't also at Voinum's place.

If need be Cyrene will happily stay and be the welcoming committee, but she might need some back-up in that case.


Female Human Wizard 5 | HP 27; AC 11 | CMD 10 | TAC 11 | FAC 10; F +3|R +3|W +6; Init +1; Perc +11

Sorry, I haven't been able to post much the last days. I agree that going to help the Baroness should be our priority, and I think we should all go - especially Cyrene! This is your field, it would be weird to have you sit it out.


Palace of Birdsong| Shards of Oberon map | War for the crown maps

Sorry I've been busy, just got a chance to look into this properly. The Voinum residence is something like 3-4 days travel away. Generally I'm fine with people going off on side quests but this time it might be a bridge too far.

Can I request you all either stay or visit the Baroness.


Female Human Oracle 5 | HP 38/38 AC 16 T 14 FF 12 | CMB +3 CMD 15 | F +4 R +7 W +5 | init +2 | Per +8; darkvision 60 | Spells 1st 8/8, 2nd 4/4 | Additional Effects:
Skills:
Acrobatics +9 Bluff +11 Diplo +13 (-4 l/g) Intimidate +6 Kn: Local +6 Kn: Planes +9 Kn: Rel +9 Perc +8 Sense motive +7; BG Kn:Nobility +9 Artistry: Charcoal Drawings +9, Perform (dance) +4

I'm going with we all go visit the baroness, we know the assassin will be able to do nothing to Lope at our place if he isn't even there.


Female Tiefling Vigilante | HP: 38/38| AC: 20 | CMB: 4 CMD: 19 | F: +2, R: +8, W: +7 | Init: +5 | Ling/KnEn +4, KnNo +8, Per +11, Blf +12[16], Dip +12, Dsg +14 [34+], Sth +16, SM +12[16] |Koriana's Blade +10, d?+5+3d4/8 |Active conditions:

I say we stay and deal with our assassin so we actually know what's going on and if there even is anyone else or whether our guy was moving onto her next. :)

I'll accede to the majority of course.


HP 43/43 AC 24 21 TAC 19 FF 16 13 | CMD 21 | F +5 R +5 W +4 | P 2/6 L1 3+0/4+2 L2 0/2 | Init +4 Senses +0 |
Skills:
Acrobatics+6,Bluff+8/+10,Climb+3,DisableDevice+5,Intimidate+4,K.Arcana+10,K .dungeon+8,K.planes+9,K.local/geo/history/nobility/religion+5,Linguistics+8 /+10,Perf.Oratory+12,Ride+8,Spellcraft+12,Swim+3,UMD+8
Human Magus (Kensai/Bladebound) 5 | spider climb 50 min, mage armor 45 min

Yup, my initial idea was to take haste to the Baroness, but something Cyrene and the GM said made me think the action was coming to us instead.

I would just do the Stachys first, just because we had laid out our plans already and even committed some rolls, but it seems the majority is about going to the Baroness, so let's go do that first :)


Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7

I guess I'm confused, Cyrene. Is there a story angle here you're waiting to divulge later?


Palace of Birdsong| Shards of Oberon map | War for the crown maps

Perhaps Cyrene forgot? Anyway I'll just drop this here.


Female Tiefling Vigilante | HP: 38/38| AC: 20 | CMB: 4 CMD: 19 | F: +2, R: +8, W: +7 | Init: +5 | Ling/KnEn +4, KnNo +8, Per +11, Blf +12[16], Dip +12, Dsg +14 [34+], Sth +16, SM +12[16] |Koriana's Blade +10, d?+5+3d4/8 |Active conditions:

In that case I do know him! Sorry, completely forgot about Pervy Guys real name.

Do assume that Cyrene makes the connection. She's smarter than me!


HP 43/43 AC 24 21 TAC 19 FF 16 13 | CMD 21 | F +5 R +5 W +4 | P 2/6 L1 3+0/4+2 L2 0/2 | Init +4 Senses +0 |
Skills:
Acrobatics+6,Bluff+8/+10,Climb+3,DisableDevice+5,Intimidate+4,K.Arcana+10,K .dungeon+8,K.planes+9,K.local/geo/history/nobility/religion+5,Linguistics+8 /+10,Perf.Oratory+12,Ride+8,Spellcraft+12,Swim+3,UMD+8
Human Magus (Kensai/Bladebound) 5 | spider climb 50 min, mage armor 45 min

May it be we are under-leveled? :D

It's been a while since we last leveled up (July 2023) and it seems we are by the end of second book while typical level at end of book 1 is already 4!


Resources NG Halfling Alchemist 4 (Vivisectionist) / Barbarian 1 (Elemental Kin / Urban Barbarian) | HP 36/36 AC17 T15 FF14 | CMB 6 CMD 17 | F9 R9 W3 +2 vs Poison | Init +3 | Rage: 4 rds/day | Dex Mutagen+Power Attack+Str Rage: Attack +7, Damage +7, AC +4
Skills:
Acro 3/8, Appraise 6, Bluff 10, Cr Alchemy 12, Diplomacy 10, DD 9/11, KArcana 6, KEng 3, KHistory 4, KLocal 7, KNature 6, KNobility 5, Perc 6, Perf Oratory 10, SM 8, SoH 7/9, Spellcraft 6, Stealth 8/10, Survival 4, UMD 7

Has it been that long? How does treasure work when resolving social conflicts? From a game mechanic, seems like we are entitled to Guisarme's stuff.


Palace of Birdsong| Shards of Oberon map | War for the crown maps

As it happens I was thinking of leveling you up after this next encounter, so you might want to start thinking about upgrades. The AP assumes you'll be level 6 by part 3 of this book.

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