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Hey Ebonfist and all, sorry I dropped off... been slammed by job stuff. I actually tried posting earlier today but I couldn't access Google Drive because Google. Feel free to bot Radiarch to utilize a roll if needed. Will do what I can to post either Sat or Sun.
I'd rather have you roll because the dice roller usually hates me.
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Okay... I am too a bit lost as well. Gaius has a key and there appears to be a hole that a small gust of wind is blowing through. Is that in the northern most room I'm currently standing in or the one below it? Is everyone's avatar placement representing where you should be? Its easy to lose track with multiple rooms, so I don't blame us! :)
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Gaius is where I moved him into the same room with Radiarch. I moved Midnight in there as she expressed no preference where to go and I didn't know the other PCs were going into a different room.
I don't think there's any 'wind' per se but something inside one of the cabinets:
"As Egavreis is looking at the cabinets he notices that the pages in one of the cabinets seem to flutter in an invisible wind. He can just imagine the mess that would be made if they got scattered all over and decides to focus on other cabinets."
Gaius is correct, there appears to be some sort of trap/activity in one of the glass cases in the room he is in. Opening the doors to that one would undoubtedly, at least cause papers and books to fly everywhere, which will be very noticeable.
The key you guys have was to get into this section of the Library. You don't have a key to the locked cabinets and Egavreis was not able to pick the locks on the cabinets, but Cillian was. With the cases open, Egavreis, Cillian and Stiggur can make quick work of the searching in that room. (I will post those results in a bit.)
In the room that Radiarch, Gaius and Midnight are in, Radiarch has made a Perception check but neither of the other two have and no one has actually begun doing the text search thing...
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Gaius is correct, there appears to be some sort of trap/activity in one of the glass cases in the room he is in. Opening the doors to that one would undoubtedly, at least cause papers and books to fly everywhere, which will be very noticeable.
The key you guys have was to get into this section of the Library. You don't have a key to the locked cabinets and Egavreis was not able to pick the locks on the cabinets, but Cillian was. With the cases open, Egavreis, Cillian and Stiggur can make quick work of the searching in that room. (I will post those results in a bit.)
In the room that Radiarch, Gaius and Midnight are in, Radiarch has made a Perception check but neither of the other two have and no one has actually begun doing the text search thing...
I posted in the 'Gameplay' thread, Gaius had already rolled poorly on a Profession (Librarian) check in that room with a 15. I didn't know if the group wanted to use any of the card(s) we have to re-roll or anything else.
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Just working on our clock. Someone let me know if my math seems off.
The two rooms to the west of the main hall were each searched simultaneously by groups of three. Since those are medium rooms, that would take 20 minutes. (100 left)
The center room was searched by the whole party, taking another 20 minutes. (80 left)
The room with the locked cabinets and the wind also took 20 minutes, being searched by 3 party members. At the same time, the other three searched a small room thoroughly enough to take the same amount of time. (60 left)
We presumably want at least 10 minutes for getting into and out of the secret area and time in the hallways, so we have no more than 50 left to finish up.
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Just working on our clock. Someone let me know if my math seems off.
The two rooms to the west of the main hall were each searched simultaneously by groups of three. Since those are medium rooms, that would take 20 minutes. (100 left)
The center room was searched by the whole party, taking another 20 minutes. (80 left)
The room with the locked cabinets and the wind also took 20 minutes, being searched by 3 party members. At the same time, the other three searched a small room thoroughly enough to take the same amount of time. (60 left)
We presumably want at least 10 minutes for getting into and out of the secret area and time in the hallways, so we have no more than 50 left to finish up.
I meant to set up a spreadsheet for my PC but I got lazy and didn't. Your calculations sound about right which is why I thought the PCs should start using some of those assistance cards to help aid/quicken the search.
Question for the GM: The cards don't specify but could the 'Cross Reference' and 'Bibliographic References' cards be used after the roll is made?
I'll allow it. Though "Hidden Gem" might be more thematically appropriate.
There have been portraits of the good king in several of the rooms.
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The 'cunning lie' quote on the plaque reminds me that I've read that somewhere here, but player memory and CTRL+F is failing me. It's not on any of the cards or descriptions that I've seen.
Perhaps Hidden Gem would be fitting? Thoughts?
The GM allowed us to use a different card to find the remaining book in that room. :)
This is one of my friend's favorite parts of running a game - watching the players figure out what to do.
At a convention, he once put a map down, laid out the problem then walked away for 30 minutes.
Let me know when you guys have a plan that you can agree on.
I might suggest the rule of 2 to help you along, though won't apply it, myself.
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This is one of my friend's favorite parts of running a game - watching the players figure out what to do.
At a convention, he once put a map down, laid out the problem then walked away for 30 minutes.
Let me know when you guys have a plan that you can agree on.
I might suggest the rule of 2 to help you along, though won't apply it, myself.
When the process goes well it can be a favorite part of the game. However I've seen it go horribly wrong too.
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I vote we skip the caretaker room, make certain we check everything else, find a vessel for Glorymane, and exfil (GTFO)!
I've played enough Living Greyhawk that I wonder if the caretaker isn't supposed to be the vessel for Glorymane. I have a nagging feeling we need to search that last room but it's a definite risk. There's two rooms left and I'm not sure we have enough time left to search both of them; I guess that's the first thing we should determine.
On the topic of a vessel for Glorymane: I think the GM would've highlighted if we'd found anything that fit the bill and we haven't so far.
There's 2 rooms that you know about, one of which contains the caretaker.
There's also a secret passage you've discovered that contains rooms.
And yes, when an appropriate vessel for Glorymane appears, you'll know (assuming you make the necessary skill check.)
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I still thought that we were dealing with the Caretaker's room at the same time as the room immediately north was being searched because we are getting close to our time limit. Which would mean only Radiarch and Midnight would be available to search / complain about my methods. Hopefully they would at least find a portrait quickly, even if they cannot check everything in there.
Egavreis is correct.
The search of the training room being done by Cilian, Gaius and Stiggur is still underway as Egavreis is enacting his plan.
Egavreis, Radiarch and Midnight are free to act but the other three are assumed to be busy for the next 8 minutes or so (assuming it only took Egavreis a couple minutes to come up with an enact his plan.)
@EbonFist
Any special rolls we available to us in this particular room Gaius and myself are in? For us limited in trained skills, I'm open to whatever would be appropriate now that we've found the last plaque. Otherwise I'll plan to exit.
You guys would not have enough time to thoroughly search the Caretaker's room. She won't leave it for long enough and there's no way you could search it while she was in it.
And, as these are her living quarters it doesn't contain any of the book collection so it only takes you a moment to realize there aren't any clues (other than the portrait) in here.
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The secret rooms look to be medium, so five of us searching each would take 24 minutes, and we should use as many of the consumable clues as we need. And then get the heck out with whatever we have.
Egavreis has a Linguistics of 25 in the southern room so far and will roll in the northern room as well when it is time for that.
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The secret rooms look to be medium, so five of us searching each would take 24 minutes, and we should use as many of the consumable clues as we need. And then get the heck out with whatever we have.
Egavreis has a Linguistics of 25 in the southern room so far and will roll in the northern room as well when it is time for that.
Agreed and we should, as a group, decide who would be best served by each card/assist we have left.
I'm going to assume the other PCs want to be in the room so I moved their icons since I know some are on mobile devices, etc.|
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I'm absolutely for using what makes sense at this point if you can use it.
Would Esoteric Alphabetization stack with other cards? Seems it would help everyone's rolls if we activated it first.
I'll probably just roll another off-brand skill roll of Nobility since I have a +12 as it is on there, and it seems it would make sense with the banners and tapestries.
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Just burn it. I don't think there's much left.
No! They'll definitely know you were here if you burn the li...
Oh...you meant burn the cards. ;-)
We're winding down, folks so if everyone can give me the following I can get the chronicles worked up and get us reported -
Player Name:
Character Name:
Character Level:
PFS Number:
Faction:
Slow/Normal:
Day Job:
Also Stiggur...if you can work out the message on Player Handout #1 on Slide 1, there might be a Grand Lodge boon on the character sheet for you (anyone else is free to help him out, of course.)
The key is one of the Taldan Cipher cards on Slide 5 but you have to figure out which one.
Muesello would have slipped you the note before you went into the library.
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Player Name: Ryan
Character Name: Radiarch Eklesya
Character Level: 3
PFS Number: 14196-4
Faction: Silver Crusade
Slow/Normal: Normal
Day Job: None, because my newb self back in 2012 when I built this character hadn't realized as much the benefit of having one. ;)
I've never seen a big benefit in having a day job. I think it's purposefully designed to not unbalance the system if someone doesn't have one. Even in the best of circumstances, you're only getting a small percentage of the gold you're just getting off the chronicle.
I guess it's a nice bonus but not something I design toward, anymore.
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I've never seen a big benefit in having a day job. I think it's purposefully designed to not unbalance the system if someone doesn't have one. Even in the best of circumstances, you're only getting a small percentage of the gold you're just getting off the chronicle.
True enough. Even in Second Edition I've noticed. It's practically baked in now, where with 1e it's more of a tradeoff/skill-tax outside of flavor.
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Day jobs are nice for the few classes that can use something they already use for other things, like alchemists and bards.
Player Name: Redelia
Character Name: Midnight the Black
Character Level: 2
PFS Number: 838-18
Faction: Silver Crusade
Slow/Normal: Normal
Day Job:
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Also Stiggur...if you can work out the message on Player Handout #1 on Slide 1, there might be a Grand Lodge boon on the character sheet for you (anyone else is free to help him out, of course.)The key is one of the Taldan Cipher cards on Slide 5 but you have to figure out which one.
Muesello would have slipped you the note before you went into the library.
Stiggur: If you need help, post here. :)
I've revealed my tracking box on slide 2. As you can see, you guys did very well (you had 120 minutes to complete everything.)
You were 1 deception point away from completely hiding your presence.
I'll get the game reported today and the chronicle's out in the next day or two.
Oh! Boons! Roll d20... a 19 or 20 gets you a boon.
Sorry...I can't report until the boons are rolled.