Ebonfist's #4-06 The Green Market (Inactive)

Game Master EbonFist

The missive from Venture-Captain Amara Li was clear, and comes to mind as the skyline of Korvosa rises into view over the calm waters of Conqueror’s Bay in southern Varisia.

“Recently the Society acquired a new ally in Absalom named Sendeli Foxglove. Now she has made something of a personal request. Sendeli has a sister named Zeeva in Korvosa who owns a successful marketplace. A competing business interest is threatening Lady Foxglove, and her sister requests the Society investigate and intervene.

“If you consider the matter pedestrian and more suited toward the local constabulary, I wouldn’t blame you. Even so, there are extenuating circumstances. First, the competing business interest is the Aspis Consortium. It makes little sense for them to harass a local greengrocer, so there must be a deeper layer to this. Maintaining close ties to Sendeli Foxglove is an agenda the Society feels is worth pursuing in and of itself, but if we can assist Zeeva while also hampering the Aspis Consortium’s efforts to gain influence in Korvosa, all the better.

“There is smoke here, now find the fire. Extricate Zeeva Foxglove from this feud with the Consortium. If she’s anything like her sister, she’ll want to be an active part of this team—but you are not to let her put herself in danger. We’ve made that clear to her, and you’re expected to abide by it and ensure she does as well. If this matter is simply crooked business, then just resolve it and continue on to Magnimar where Venture-Captain Heidmarch will surely have more in store for you.”

"Foxglove? That name rings a bell..."

"If the society deems it important, than so be it. Far be it from me to judge the importance of a small backwater grocery store to the largest information and research organization in all of Golarian. The one with uncountable financial and personal resources. Yes, let us go to this market."

"Sounds great. Maybe I can spend a few days catching up with friends at Ravenfoot Corner."

Ichio smiles to see Amara li again, that means they are at home again. While listening attentively a brief grimace of joy assumed on his impassive face. "Well another opportunity to embitter the existence of the Aspis consortium, Honorable Amara Li can you give us another additional information" while making a small bow, "some additional information would be very useful to us so that our mission was more successful"

dot...thoughti dotted last night..will post in a bit

You had me at "Aspis Consortium". Any chance I get to bust some Snakes' heads is fine by me. I'm good to get going...just refilled my necessary expendables.. Valeros says as he shows a few wineskins almost bursting at the seams. Qadiran wine, whiskey from Taldor and a hearty mead made by a dwarf named Branil I met a while ago.

To clarify: Amara Li just sent you guys messages. She didn't actually do a briefing in person so is not available to answer any questions. To Kal'Ryon's point, it's important enough to send you guys but not important enough for her to tell you about it in person.

Arriving in Korvosa, you learn that the Green Market is in the South Shore district. Once you get there, it is easy to find directions to the market.

The Green Market is a mostly wooden structure built like a massive barn. It stands on a flattened section of raised earth five feet higher than the surrounding street. The structure is only a single story, but the ceiling rises to twenty-five feet and has numerous glass skylights that can be opened and closed with extending poles and ladders for lighting and ventilation. To the East is the main entrance that has large iron gates which can be slid and chained shut. On the northeast and southeast sides are exterior docks with sliding bay doors, where farmers and merchants can unload the wares from their wagons directly into stalls or bring them into interior kiosks. Inside, the majority of the ground is hard-packed earth, except for the stalls, which have wood flooring. Only the four northeastern stalls carry goods other than produce. The eastern-most stall has casks of wine, oils, and vinegar. The other stalls sell quality clothing, jewelry, and finished furniture. On the northwest side is an office that can be secured by another sliding iron gate. West of the office is the market’s back entrance. Finally, in the center west is a park-like area with a large tree and flowered bushes kept alive by an open skylight above.

When the group arrives, the market is bustling with life and commerce as merchants sell their wares and chat with their customers. Men and women do their daily grocery shopping while children run around playing and laughing.

Mylvwara approaches a nearby stall, buys a bag of apples and asks the grocer, "Would you direct me to Zeeva, please?"

Diazepane follows, looking a the local produce and asking vendors why it's called the Green Market.

"Ha! I don't know. No one's ever mentioned why they call it the Green Market," a smiling man with a bald pate, shaggy beard and spare frame replies to Diazepane's question.

It requires a Knowledge (Local) or Diplomacy check to find Zeeva.

Also, you can gather information as below -

Green Market (Diplomacy or Knowledge (Local)

Zeeva Foxglove (Diplomacy or Knowledge (Local)

Madame Shardra peruses the stalls wares with distracted interest. She purchases a large bulb of garlic, cracks it open against a wooden post and peels the dry outer skins of a handful of cloves with a pocket knife. Thoughtfully she munches on the raw garlic cloves as she meanders through the merchants, trying to sift matters of interest from the chat and banter surrounding her...

diplomacy, listening only: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (15) + 13 = 28 She does not engage any locals in chat; the potent stench of garlic would be enough to knock them flat.

Once she regroups with the party, she ushers the others into a close huddle to share what she has learned. Green Market up to DC25

diplomacy (aid): 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (7) + 5 = 12

Mylvwara asks a few helpful follow up questions...

Ichio grew up from a young age on the streets and the bustle of the market are his favorite places where he can function with ease. Strike up a conversation with some locals trying to get as much information as possible.
Kn.local Green Market: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (19) + 11 = 30
Kn.local Zeeva: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (19) + 11 = 30
Guys can read all spoiler

As the group compares notes and asks around, one of the merchants nods across the way. "If you want to know about the Green Market, or Zeeva, why don't you ask her, yourselves?"

Following the direction of the nod, you see a stunning woman with chin-length, strawberry blonde hair, wide brown eyes, and a generous smile. She carries no weapons and wears no armor. A sleek, black cat rubs itself against her ankle.

As you watch, she finishes a conversation with one vendor passing her a coin and taking an apple before moving on to the next stall and starting to chat with both the vendor and a customer.

Diazepane learned a bit about Zeeva, but Ichio found out even more and returned quicker.

He hopes that Zeeva has not turned anyone into a newt.

As Ichio fills the group in, Mylvwara takes notes.
"Well, we should engage the good lady."

What? ... I got better!

That is only appropriate custom. Besides, what the society wants- the society gets!

Kal turns towards the oncoming woman, and offers a flourish of a bow. "You must be Ms Foxglove. Kal'ryon, at your service"

Engage her? I haven't even talked to her yet...but ok... Valeros says with a laugh.

Good day, Miss Foxglove.

"Miss Zeeva my name is Ichio and we have been sent through your sister Sendeli to help you with the small problem you have with the Aspis Consortium, we will protect you and eradicate that nest of snakes as quickly and silently as possible."

Munch, munch, munch.

Shardra continues to pick apart raw garlic bulbs and flicking the skins on the floor. She holds back from introducing herself and inflicting the sickened condition on Miss Zeeva

Aw man...stupid forum ate my post. Here we go again.

Zeeva's seemingly ever present smile does not falter when the Pathfinders present themselves, though her brow furrows in concentration as she mentally switches from the calm, happy commerce around her to the darker subject which brought them here.

Her eyes widen and she nods when she's on the right mental track.

“Thank you so much for coming. I can’t tell you how much this means to me. I’ve complained to the city, but it’s as if the Aspis Consortium has bribed everyone or the authorities just don’t care. I’m happy to pay for your lodging while you’re helping me. If you like, I can show you around the market and answer any questions about anything you haven’t already been told.”

She's true to her word and will take you around introducing you to each vendor and most of the customers, who seem to be regulars while answering any questions.

"Brilliant, well, let's get started then. How is the Green Market so profitable that the Aspis want to take control?" Mylvwara has a notebook in one hand and a quill in the other. Her pen hovers over a page in anticipation.

"Some say the Market is lucky and sometimes it seems that way. It’s not anything I understand, or control. Yet often I seem to be blessed in running the Market. I don’t know why," Zeeva replies with a sheepish shrug.

"It seems that they want to take advantage of that luck."

Mylvwara gives Zeeva the look of a curious person who cannot understand another's lack of curiosity, "So, how do you know your luck will last?"

"How does the market itself make money? Do you charge a percentage of transactions, or a flat fee for renting stalls, or some other way?"

Likely the snakes have their eyes on anything involving money or the Society. Those vermin can be trusted as far as I can toss a dragon...which isn't far.. Valeros says as he wanders the market, buying odd bit of food to sample.

"Dear Zeeva, I have to tell you something but maybe it does not suit you, I think that introducing ourselves to all the merchants in full view of everyone can have its advantages and disadvantages. The Aspis will know that you are no longer alone and they will become more violent and daring and on the contrary it will take away the tactical advantage of surprise. If you like, Goram, who is our bravest warrior, will accompany you and the rest of us will mix among the people as simple buyers and observe."

While Ichio takes a few steps away from the group and mixes with the pedestrians and merchants that crowd the square

Zeeva shrugs in response to Mylvwara's question. "I suppose I don't. But even if I did know the source of this place's good luck, there's no guarantee that I'd be able to influence it, in any case. If my luck runs out, I will be thankful for the time when I had it."

"It is a percentage of transactions," she explains to Diazepane. "That way, I'm as encouraged to make this place as successful as the vendors are."

"Try one of these oranges. They're the perfect mix of sweet and tangy," she tells Valeros, handing a copper over to the vendor and handing the fighter one while she takes one for herself.

She is drawn up short by Ichio's remarks.

"I...hadn't thought of that. I'm not afraid of the Aspis. I'm just worried that they're going to disrupt things here and frustrated that they won't take 'no' for an answer. But you are the experts. If you think it's better that they not know you're here or why."

Please place yourselves on the map. I've put a marker down for where Zeeva is when absolutely nothing interesting happens. Seriously...very boring. Totally nothing is going to happen. You guys are so paranoid.

Diazepane is strolling along, yawning, lulled into the false sense of security offered by the crowds.

"I think this citrus flavor would really go with my extracts of reduce person," he comments to nobody in particular. "The oils of the skin are quite aromatic, I should take a few dried peels and see if they can be distilled."

Thank you, Zeeva. Oh..very juicy...might have to grab a bushel before heading back. But, yes.sometimes being subtle is best. The snakes are seldom predictable...but an educated guess is relatively safe. A man like Diazepane here..he does the thinking ..guys like me do the dirty work.can someone place me beside Zeeva please? since i'm the meatshield...i'm on my phone...ty

"You have mentioned that they wont take no for an answer. What exactly is the the question?"

Mylvwara heads to the greenery at the back to get a better view.

Once there, thinking about the Aspsis, she uses her wand to cast mage armor on herself.

Ichio releases the safety of the sheath of his wakizashis, takes it out of them and hides them between his sleeves, while observing among the crowded there if anyone has any abnormal behavior or performs any action inappropriate for the place where they are.
sleight hand: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (9) + 15 = 24
perception: 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (18) + 18 = 36

I've placed Valeros on the map. I'll wait for Kal'Ryon and Shardra to place themselves on the map before absolutely nothing will happen.

"Kareenos sells juices. I'm sure he'd give you some peels, if you wanted them. I think he sells most of them to Tabala who dries them for her potpourri," Zeeva tells Diazepane.

"Oh, I'm sure you're selling yourself short, Valeros. Just because you know how to swing a sword doesn't mean you don't know how to use your brains.

She grows more somber when answering Kal'Ryon's question. “Initially they wanted to buy the Green Market, but I wasn’t interested. It’s been very successful and, though I never thought I’d find myself saying this, I love what I do. Then they wanted to lease space inside of it, but when I found out what they wanted to sell I declined. That’s when they started to harass me.”

Shardra rattles off a quick casting of Barkskin[/occ] and [Heightened Perception. Inside her calm and undemonstrative demeanour, her heart is beating faster - if the Aspis' interest in this site is connected to the ancient Shoanti site she can almost feel beneath her feet, she will be delighted to learn more...

Seeing his companions suddenly alarmed, Diazepane chases down his orange with an extract of shield.

As you are strolling along, chatting with Zeeva, a quartet of individuals sidle out of the crowd and next to the woman. They are all covered in cloaks and other loose clothing.

But as the leader approaches, one of the others draws aside her cloak, revealing armor and weapons.

"I suggest that you come with us so we can discuss business in private so as not to cause a scene in such a serene setting as the Green Market," he sneers.

"I'd rather not," Zeeva replies, looking to the Pathfinders gathered around her hopefully.

Kal smiles at the on-comers, sensing the latent hostility. He produces a perfectly smooth, grey wand- and taps it gently on his thigh. Quickly stowing it again. Shield

"I'll happily follow, lead the way." The hint of fangs, and the reflection of light off his deep black fingernails appears almost sinister- and the little motes of entropy that surround his form spring to life.

"Yes, let's let the market operate in peace. My name is Diazepane Ketal."

Diazepane feels the weight of the stares from his companions.

"What? We can't be polite about this?"

I have a funny feeling polite isn't going to cut it here. Go pound some salt, lady. Your "discussion" isn't going to happen...not on my watch. Valeros says, stepping forward between Zeeva and the newcomers.

intimidate: 1d20 ⇒ 10worth a shot, right?

Mylvwara observes the scene from her vantage in the garden.

She purses her lips for a moment, then begins casting a spell.

It's clear that the Aspis agents weren't expecting resistance, at least not to the degree that they get. It's also clear that they're ready to defend themselves in the face of that resistance as they all reach for weapons.

The other market patrons quickly scatter as it becomes apparent that violence is in the offing.

Round 1. The BOLD may act.
Diazepane
Aspis
Valeros
Kal'Ryon
Ichio
Shardra
Mylvwara

I don't see Mme Shardra on the map.

Diazepane steps back, pulling his hand away and yelling, "Psyche!"

He throws two bombs, the first at the leader (yellow), the second at the lackey (magenta), excluding allies.

Frost Bomb, PBS, PS, RS: 1d20 + 10 + 1 - 0 - 2 ⇒ (13) + 10 + 1 - 0 - 2 = 22 vs FFT
Cold, PBS: 4d6 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (5, 5, 5, 5) + 8 + 1 = 29 plus DC 22 Fortitude vs staggered
On a hit, 13 splash cold on Magenta, DC 22 Reflex for half.
Miss?: 1d8 ⇒ 1
Splash Weapon Mastery to bump it to 2 (SW) on a miss, Yellow and Diazepane take 13 splash cold, DC 22 Reflex for half.

Frost Bomb, PBS, PS, RS: 1d20 + 10 + 1 - 0 - 2 ⇒ (7) + 10 + 1 - 0 - 2 = 16 vs FFT
Cold, PBS: 4d6 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (2, 3, 6, 4) + 8 + 1 = 24 plus DC 22 Fortitude vs staggered
On a hit, 13 splash cold on Yellow, DC 22 Reflex for half.
Miss?: 1d8 ⇒ 1
No SWM bump. Yellow and Magenta take 13 splash cold, DC 22 Reflex for half.

Both of Diazepane's bombs hit, the sound of moisture in the air crackling to ice filling the air. The leader is caught completely off guard and takes full damage from both hits and is staggered by the cold. The magenta garbed man is able to avoid the worst of the splash but is also staggered.

Ref: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (8) + 4 = 12
Fort: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5

Ref: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (18) + 6 = 24
Fort: 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (5) + 9 = 14

"M-m-m-my...aren't you the d-d-d-dangerous one?" the leader says to Diazepane, followed by arcane gestures and words.

And those arcane gestures and words are followed by: "Sit down with your hands clasped in your lap until you can't see any of us anymore."

The thugs all throw off their cloaks and draw bows and arrows, launching the missiles at Valeros and Kal'Ryon, respectively, though the one hit by Diazepane's bomb can't get his fingers to work well enough to knock the arrow and draw.

Longbow (Blue vs. Valeros): 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (2) + 11 = 13
Piercing (Nonlethal): 1d8 ⇒ 8

Longbow (Red vs. Kal'Ryon): 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (11) + 11 = 22
Piercing (Nonlethal): 1d8 ⇒ 2

The one aimed at Valeros flies wide but hits a fleeing customer. It bursts into a flash of white energy and the woman falls to the ground asleep.

The one directed at Kal'Ryon hits only because he wasn't quite ready and he also gets very sleepy.

Round 1/2. The BOLD may act.
Diazepane - DC 19 Will Save or sit with hands clasped in lap
Aspis Yellow -42HP, Pink -30HP
Valeros
Kal'Ryon -2NL DC11 Will Save or fall asleep
Ichio
Shardra
Mylvwara

Get her out of here! Valeros says as he takes a step towards the spellcaster and slashes at him with his blades.thought it was a woman...man i need to get my eyes checked...lol

long1: 1d20 + 13 + 2 ⇒ (20) + 13 + 2 = 351d8 + 9 ⇒ (6) + 9 = 15
long2: 1d20 + 8 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 8 + 2 = 261d8 + 9 ⇒ (1) + 9 = 10
short: 1d20 + 10 + 2 ⇒ (15) + 10 + 2 = 271d6 + 5 ⇒ (5) + 5 = 10

crit: 1d20 + 13 + 2 ⇒ (14) + 13 + 2 = 291d8 + 9 ⇒ (5) + 9 = 14

Anybody wanna walk away from this, now is your chance...I'm feeling nice...for now..

Valeros punctuates Diazepanes frosty attacks with more steely ones.

They are quite enough to take the spellcaster out of the fight (and this world.)

The remaining thugs falter (but can't flee until their turn.)

Round 1/2. The BOLD may act.
Diazepane - DC 19 Will Save or sit with hands clasped in lap
Aspis Yellow D-E-D, Pink -30HP
Valeros
Kal'Ryon -2NL DC11 Will Save or fall asleep
Ichio
Shardra
Mylvwara

Diazepane's four leaf clover flashes.

Will, Four Leaf Clover, DC 19: 1d20 + 5 + 2 ⇒ (9) + 5 + 2 = 16

"Sir, yes, sir."

Diazepane sits with his hands in his lap.

Mylvwara's spell tumbles out of her, as her hands make dizzying arcane patterns.

fortitude: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (6) + 6 = 12

And an augmented, celestial lion appears behind the Aspis, before leaping forward to pounce upon them.

smiting red, will move on to blue if red dies.

claw, charging: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (11) + 11 = 22
damage: 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (3) + 7 = 10smiting +5 vs evil

claw, charging: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (6) + 11 = 17
damage: 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (4) + 7 = 11smiting +5 vs evil

claw, charging: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (13) + 11 = 24
damage: 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (3) + 7 = 10smiting +5 vs evil

claw, charging: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (11) + 11 = 22
damage: 1d4 + 7 ⇒ (1) + 7 = 8smiting +5 vs evil

bite, charging: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (20) + 11 = 31
damage: 1d8 + 7 ⇒ (5) + 7 = 12smiting +5 vs evil
grapple if bite hits: 1d20 + 17 ⇒ (3) + 17 = 20

bite crit confirm, charging: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (7) + 11 = 18
extra crit damage: 1d8 + 7 ⇒ (4) + 7 = 11smiting +5 vs evil

Heh...because I put "Green" in the title of the Campaign, it looks like all my text is going to be green.

I don't know if that will be true for you guys, as well.

I have not heard back from Grimdog in a bit. I'm inclined to wait a bit more before looking for a replacement (maybe beginning Friday?) but I'm open to discussion. Do we want to look faster...do we want to not worry and proceed with only 5 if he doesn't join us?

I see green.

I'm fine waiting for grimdog, past Friday if necessary. I'm also fine starting with 5, expecting he'll join before we get too far.

Diazepane picked up a four-leaf clover to help with his miserable will saves. I'll put it in my tagline as a tracked item.

Craft (alchemy), Crafter's Fortune: 1d20 + 19 + 5 ⇒ (8) + 19 + 5 = 32

I am fine with waiting as well.

"Green eyed lady, lovely lady
Strolling slowly towards the sun"

I also updated this spreadsheet for reporting.

If everyone can fill it out at their leisure we can save ourselves the "provide me this information" message at the end of the scenario and, because we're mostly keeping the same players and characters, you shouldn't have to edit too much from session to session.

Hey hey everyone. Shardra checking in.

The green thing is neat. I want to try it with other colours now.

Isn't there something with "smurf" too? I thought your avatar turned into a smurf.

Edit: there it is. It won't show up on preview though.

Sleigth Hand vanity: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (4) + 15 = 19

This might be the most interesting game thread that I have ever been in. Green text and a Blue alchemist!

Feel free to post in the gameplay thread.

I know the opening post doesn't give you much to do so I'll post a more actionable post sometime over the weekend.

here i am

Master I want to ask your permission to buy equipment, I want to buy a celestial armor I have the money and I have consulted the guide and with the fame and prestige points it gives me to buy it. But I prefer to ask first.

Can you wear celestial armour without medium armour proficiency?

If so, it might be an option for my swashbuckler.

celestial armor
It is considered light armor and allows the wearer to use fly on command (as the spell) once per day.

Master I want to ask your permission to buy equipment, I want to buy a celestial armor I have the money and I have consulted the guide and with the fame and prestige points it gives me to buy it. But I prefer to ask first.

Of course. You can always assume that a week or more passes between our adventures (except maybe the last two.)

You have plenty of time to buy whatever you want in the downtime between.

I thought this group would be a good place to ask for advice on a new character.

I have a PC who I have brought over to PFS from a Curse of the Crimson Throne game that I left.
She is a human Varisian cleric of Desna. I'm really happy with her.

She came to Absalom with her ward, a teenage orphan who she had been trying to find a foster family, until he was abducted by a Fagin-type character and forced to work as a pickpocket.

She has brought him with her so that he cannot bump into people who know him as a criminal, to give him a fresh start.

I am planning to have him follow her adventurous ways and join the society.

I am left in need of a class to go with my concept: a vulnerable young kid who lost his parents and spent a period as a pickpocket. He's spent several years (post bereavement and post-rescue) living with a cleric of Desna and helping at the temple.

I don't know where to go with him. Any ideas?

Sanctified rogue archetype?

I've just given that a look. It's a bit bland.

I've never played a rogue before, so maybe I'm not seeing the potential.

yeah, i know what you mean. i almost never played a rogue before. my=-1 is a unchained rogue/slayer/brawler build...he's actually pretty good in combat...and has skills out the wazoo. I was thinking that archetype because of the synergy between the church and a rogue..

I don't think the church/rogue thing needs to be so direct, it could be that the character reacts badly to the church over time, and becomes anti-church/rogue (either relapsing into old habits, or even developing new bad habits); alternatively, the character could really take to the church and go church/anti-rogue (some type of lawful neutral overreacter to petty crime).

I have zero suggestions on classes, if you couldn't tell, my PFS1 characters are all kind of bland. If I had to make another PFS1 character, I'd do magus, but that's only because I've never actually played with one in my party (the closest I've come is listening to Matthew play one on the Glass Cannon Podcast).

I've played a few times on the board with a knife-throwing tiefling magus who can nova really powerfully when you reach the big-bad.

I've just had a brainwave: vigilante.

He works as an apprentice in an ordinary job, although his very devout, cleric guardian keeps sending him on pilgrimages.
When he is a pathfinder, and could go anywhere, bump into people from his past, he goes in disguise!

I may be missing something but I can't see the map you want us to place ourselves on...?

If you go rogue go unchained.

An inquisitor might be interesting, too. They're pretty skill heavy and could be good with the church connection.

I like the vigilante as a concept but most of their abilities seem to shine only in campaign mode.

Though, I have to admit, I haven't actually read the 1E class.

I did flirt with the idea of a halfling with the childlike feat as a vigilante. His social persona would actually be a human urchin and his vigilante persona would be The Urchin, halfling revenger!

I may be missing something but I can't see the map you want us to place ourselves on...?

Sorry, I put it in my tag line but forgot to link it on the campaign.

It's up, now.

Well, I have ended up making a vigilante warlock half-elf scion with morphic mask.

By day he is a humble human scribe.
By night she is a flamboyant Elven warlock.

On adventures he will be a chronicler, making notes for the Society.

She will be just another crazy pathfinder with strange powers and little regard for her personal safety.

Head canon: relaxing at home with Seren he is his true half-elf self.

Hello, I'm back, I've been out of my home.

WB! Hope you weren't having any troubles and, if you were, that they're settled.

Sorry Ebon Fist, I'm getting confused figuring out which chronicles Quensha has received.

If we have a 7-9 left, I think I'll be bringing Crowe back for one adventure to earn Quensha some credit, unless I finish a whole lot of modules before this one ends.

I just realised, I should have played this one with Crowe. Not a big deal, I love playing Mylvwara, just a thought.

Sorry Ebon Fist, I'm getting confused figuring out which chronicles Quensha has received.

If we have a 7-9 left, I think I'll be bringing Crowe back for one adventure to earn Quensha some credit, unless I finish a whole lot of modules before this one ends.

I just realised, I should have played this one with Crowe. Not a big deal, I love playing Mylvwara, just a thought.

We have 4 more 5-9's left then 8 7-11's.

Oh, that’s great.

I am getting there with my modules, just not at great speed (just ask Castinus).

Quensha might actually be the PC who fills out this arc, as intended.

Nadolig Llawen everyone!

I will be absent for the next few days because it's Christmas and I have small children. See you on the other side :D

Merry Christmas guys - thank you for sharing this story with me in 2020.

Have a peaceful break, and here's hoping 2021 has fewer unpleasant surprises for us all than 2020...

Merry/Happy Christmas, y'all.

Here's hoping everyone else's was as good as mine.

Thanks for sticking with me through this year and this harebrained scheme I'm working on.

Merry Ho Ho to you too! i'm all for harebrained schemes

Happy New Year everyone - good riddance 2020 !

Aye, good riddance...

Happy New Year!

Happy Gnu Years guys!

Happy Nude Year!

According to Ebonfist, I have been doing this all wrong for years!

This shouldn't materially affect the game, but I just learned that all the boons that I got when I played pregens for level 1 should have activated when I reached the proper levels. So I added several boons that I got from 5-9 and 7-11 adventures way back when.

This shouldn't materially affect the game, but I just learned that all the boons that I got when I played pregens for level 1 should have activated when I reached the proper levels. So I added several boons that I got from 5-9 and 7-11 adventures way back when.

I'll allow it because it's the rules.

Sorry guys - have been locked out since the w/e. Will post later tonight.

No problem. Everyone was locked out for a bit and my work has gotten pretty hectic so my game time has been reduced.

Sorry, EbonFist, but I'm playing a wizard and I'm not so useful if I cannot understand and master the environment.

The ethereal plane has the 'no gravity' trait. See here for rules regarding no gravity planes. The ghost can float (at half speed) because it is incorporeal but the fire elementals and the rest of us are stuck in place.

That's as far as I can tell. And then there are references to the whole place being insubstantial and incorporeal, as linked above. Solid ground is a 'rarity' in the ethereal and astral planes, for instance. Do we have solid ground here?

The rules for the ethereal plane are spread over a bunch of different books and they don't seem entirely coherent.

In 3.5 anything that was on the ethereal plane gained the 'ethereal' condition so we would all be ethereal. Whether that is the case now, I don't really know. it looks like something that they forgot to port over from 3.5

Most of the rules for spells and what-not to do with etherealness link back to ethereal jaunt, which says...

You become ethereal, along with your equipment. For the duration of the spell, you are in the Ethereal Plane, which overlaps the Material Plane. ..

Which seems to imply that the 3.5 rule is still in place and we are all now ethereal because being ethereal just means 'you are on the ethereal plane'

Basically, I think we should all be floating around at half-speed and the walls, floor and other objects are just misty images that we can float through.
That would mean the earth elemental can float under the fire wall, otherwise it will have to burrow.
That also means I can float over it, rather than casting fly.

But I could be completely wrong, because the information in the spell and the information in the description of the plane does not match up.

So, I basically need a GM ruling on these things:
is there gravity (as per the plane rules)?
Are we all ethereal (as per ethereal jaunt)?
Are there solid buildings and objects and ground or are they all insubstantial misty images (as per the description in esoteric planes and other places in the rules)?

Note to self: Don't GM this adventure :)

I'm going to say it's not entirely a no gravity area because that would mean that only Galdron and who ever cast fly or had fly cast on them would be able to move.

I'm going to say that the buildings and ground are semi-solid, meaning you can stand on them but with a little (i.e. mechanically free) effort you can pass through them.

You are ethereal.

Galdron is Incorporeal, which, in this system means that he's got the same rules on the ethereal plane as he is on the material plane.

The earth elemental can pass under the wall without burrowing.

You can float over the wall without casting fly but directing that float and undoing it i.e. coming back down to the "ground" is the issue. That's why I'm asking for a fly or acrobatics check. Some way or another (pushing off the "ground", willing yourself in the right direction, flatulence power) you have to actually propel yourself somehow to move. The check is to see if you do that well, if you end up going through the wall on accident, if you careen off into the gray wastes of the ethereal plane or fall "through" the "ground," instead.

Ebonfist, if we are ethereal then we can all float (at half-speed) wherever we like.

So, you can keep no gravity: arrows that miss go on forever, you can let go of a sword and it will just float next to you while you cast your spell.