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Wrath of the Righteous | Iron Gods
I really hate to do this, but I just got some really, really awful news that I need to deal with before I can focus on the game. I'm sorry for the hold up.
Take care. Thank you for being open and communicative. Please continue to check in as best you can so we know you’re ok.
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Hey folks, apologies again. I've been having a rough couple weeks IRL, but I'm good to go now. Thanks for your patience.
M NG Magus 1 / Wizard 3 | HP 33/33 | AC13+4 T13 FF10+4 | CMB0 CMD13 | F+6 R+5* W+7* | Init+4 Per+9 (darkvision 60', low-light vision) SM+2 | AP 7/7 bullets 6/6 Called 1/1 | spells M1st 3/2 W1st-2/4 | conditions/effects: extended water breathing 8h, mage armor 2h
I'm glad you're back! If you want to talk about what's been going on, we're here for you. <3
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
I'm sure others are in a similar situation, but Fri-Sun I'll be out of town for family holiday stuff, posting will be sporadic at best for me. Happy holidays to all who celebrate!
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Post coming tonight. Just started my first term of college in, uh, a long time, and prepping for it was tough.
Female N Changeling Ranger 3 | HP: 21/25 | AC: 18 (T: 13, F: 15) | CMB: +6, CMD: 18 | F: +3, R: +6, W: +3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: none.
I think we may have lost Tyn over the holidays. Everyone else still around?
Android Wizard (Spell Sage) 3 | HP 23/23 | AC 13 (Touch 13, FF 10, CMD 16) | F +3 R +4 W +3 | Per +5 | Init +3 | Active: None
Still here!
Hekau is just busy casting his spell. It is 2 full-round actions and then takes place immediately before his 3rd turn.
It does look like this is Tyn's only campaign, so he may just not be checking the boards. (I am in a few too many... although a few are maybe weekly posts.)
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I'll move along in the morning if he hasn't posted before then.
Android Wizard (Spell Sage) 3 | HP 23/23 | AC 13 (Touch 13, FF 10, CMD 16) | F +3 R +4 W +3 | Per +5 | Init +3 | Active: None
Aggressive Thundercloud is Reflex Negates, not Reflex Half.
Fortunately, Hekau cast it at CL7 so I have several more rounds to try.
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
What if Shesik and/or Xaerai grappled it? It's DR/Hardness seems pretty rough but if we grab it maybe it will fail those saves and take a bunch of damage...
M NG Magus 1 / Wizard 3 | HP 33/33 | AC13+4 T13 FF10+4 | CMB0 CMD13 | F+6 R+5* W+7* | Init+4 Per+9 (darkvision 60', low-light vision) SM+2 | AP 7/7 bullets 6/6 Called 1/1 | spells M1st 3/2 W1st-2/4 | conditions/effects: extended water breathing 8h, mage armor 2h
I don’t know why I thought force damage would bypass hardness. I have to make sure Zelvin never goes without coin shot again! :)
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Thanks for the correction, Hekau. You said as much in your post, but I missed it. I'll move us along later tonight.
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
NG Male Tiefling Alchemist (Chirurgeon/Crypt Breaker/Wasteland Blighter) 3 |HP:19/21|(2 NL) AC: 14 T: 12 FF: 12 | CMB:+3 CMD: 15 | F: +3 R: +5 W: +2 | Init: +2 | Perc: +7, (+8 to locate traps) SM: +1 | Darkvision 60' | Speed 30 ' |(SLA) Darkness/CLW 0/1 | Bomb 5/8,(DC 16 Splash) | Formula: 1st 1/5 | Active Conditions: None
Sorry, I have been distracted with the aftermath of a car wreck. No one was seriously injured but I totaled my car and have been neglecting other areas such as this trying to get back on track-apologies.
Gm was the statement of the bomb having little effect due to a successful reflex check or immunity-or can Tyn even discern that...
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
Oh my goodness, that's alarming! I'm glad you're alright
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Apologies everyone, been feeling a bit burned out with work. Tyn, the no damage was because your bomb failed to overcome its Hardness. Sorry for being unclear.
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Posting this in all my games, so I apologize if you've seen it already.
I'm going through a difficult period right now with my mental health, and it's making it hard for me to keep up with my games on here. I am not planning to quit or anything, but I just need a day or two to kind of unplug from stuff so I can get myself back to where I can be a more active contributor. In the meantime, I ask for your patience, and I will be back soon.
So sorry you're going through stuff, Losonti! No pressure, I'm sure we'll see you when you're feeling better, and your games will be even better for the wait!
Android Wizard (Spell Sage) 3 | HP 23/23 | AC 13 (Touch 13, FF 10, CMD 16) | F +3 R +4 W +3 | Per +5 | Init +3 | Active: None
A note on the Concealment and the Grappled condition:
Once you are Grappled, even Invisibility no longer gives a miss chance. Just a +2 Circumstance bonus to CMD.
That would imply that simple Concealment wouldn't give a miss chance either.

Female N Changeling Ranger 3 | HP: 21/25 | AC: 18 (T: 13, F: 15) | CMB: +6, CMD: 18 | F: +3, R: +6, W: +3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: none.
Moving Grapple discussion to the Discussion thread (appropriately).
Shesik wrote: Having taken a little more time pouring over the rules, it looks like, for our situation, Pinning only helps if the ‘bot’s Dex is above 15. Otherwise simply having it Grappled is better. (Grappled gives it a -2 to Reflex Saves, while Pinned denies its Dex bonus. The two effects don’t stack, but Pinned is better at Dex > 15, and Grappled is better at Dex < 14. At a Dex of 14 or 15 they’re equivalent.) Hekau wrote: @Shesik - maybe that is technically true by RAW but I cannot see any PC asking Xaerai to let the drone up so that it will have a harder time dodging. Definitely a case that asks for a GM judgment call. Yeah, this is a very Meta-gamey issue. It calls for some detailed knowledge of the opponents and a certain meta knowledge of the rules system. It is definitely not a distinction that one would consider in reality or in an in-character sense. It’s kind of a point where the abstraction and the rule details fail to fully mesh. Since In the real world, it doesn’t matter how dexterous one is, being pinned is worse than actively grappling/wrestling.
Android Wizard (Spell Sage) 3 | HP 23/23 | AC 13 (Touch 13, FF 10, CMD 16) | F +3 R +4 W +3 | Per +5 | Init +3 | Active: None
I mean, I would just flat-out call it a bug in the rules that needs to be fixed by house-ruling.
Like in 3.5 when you could heal someone from -9 to -1 by drowning them.
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I think it makes sense to apply whichever is worse, so something with a Dex score of 13 or lower wouldn't see its Reflex save increase by moving from Grappled to Pinned.
In this case, the robot's Dex score is indeed higher than 15, so removing the bonus entirely is a larger debuff than the flat -4.
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i waasnt sure if the first post went through-it didnt appear on my screen and i even refreshed-cme back to check and i guess it did go through. anyways same sucky die roll...
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Hey everyone, post coming tonight. Sorry for the delay!
M NG Magus 1 / Wizard 3 | HP 33/33 | AC13+4 T13 FF10+4 | CMB0 CMD13 | F+6 R+5* W+7* | Init+4 Per+9 (darkvision 60', low-light vision) SM+2 | AP 7/7 bullets 6/6 Called 1/1 | spells M1st 3/2 W1st-2/4 | conditions/effects: extended water breathing 8h, mage armor 2h
Hooray! Always look forward to your posts. :)
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
hey gang, a heads up: our GM has come down with a case of viral bronchitis and will be out of commission for a bit
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I'm alive! I will post later tonight.
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So, the immediate issue is how to get Khonnir out of the tunnels. Hekau's suggestion of sending Zelvin ahead will most likely work, it'll just take a while.
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
Is Khonnir in a condition where he could manage that? There's nothing at all to guarantee that a scroll/potion/whatever of Water Breathing will be available...
Android Wizard (Spell Sage) 3 | HP 23/23 | AC 13 (Touch 13, FF 10, CMD 16) | F +3 R +4 W +3 | Per +5 | Init +3 | Active: None
Bringing Master Kyte through to cast Water Breathing on Khonnir Baine might work.
Or, even better, Lesser Restoration.
M NG Magus 1 / Wizard 3 | HP 33/33 | AC13+4 T13 FF10+4 | CMB0 CMD13 | F+6 R+5* W+7* | Init+4 Per+9 (darkvision 60', low-light vision) SM+2 | AP 7/7 bullets 6/6 Called 1/1 | spells M1st 3/2 W1st-2/4 | conditions/effects: extended water breathing 8h, mage armor 2h
Zelvin would hate to leave Mister Khonnir's side, but of course he'll do whatever it takes to save his adopted father. Can we handwave it? Do you want me to make some rolls?
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I think we can handwave it. We'll just say that it takes longer than you like but not so much to put anyone in danger.
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Okay, so, good news: it turns out, tomorrow is my last day of classes. I'm not planning to take anything over the summer, and coincidentally it's a slower time of year at work, so I'll be less swamped with my IRL (over-)commitments. I also got PDFs and put them into my cloud storage so if I find myself with time to write up a post I won't be confounded by a lack of access to the AP materials.
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
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Post tonight! Hopefully to a more regular schedule now.
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Post coming over lunchtime! Hopefully!
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I'll be honest, I have lost track a bit of what loot the party has. Would someone be willing to tally that up for us?
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Posting this in all my games. I'm going to be traveling from June 8th through June 12th. I'll do my best to keep up in my free time.
Android Wizard (Spell Sage) 3 | HP 23/23 | AC 13 (Touch 13, FF 10, CMD 16) | F +3 R +4 W +3 | Per +5 | Init +3 | Active: None
GM Losonti wrote: I'll be honest, I have lost track a bit of what loot the party has. Would someone be willing to tally that up for us? I did see this request; I have done it for some other games and it can be pretty time-consuming, but I can do this if nobody else can.
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Hi everyone! I'm back now, trying to get up to speed.
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
Hey everyone, my spouse and I will be leaving for vacation on Friday and won't be back until the following weekend. My posting rate is likely to be low during that time but I'll do my best.
Android Wizard (Spell Sage) 3 | HP 23/23 | AC 13 (Touch 13, FF 10, CMD 16) | F +3 R +4 W +3 | Per +5 | Init +3 | Active: None
Anyone have a preference on what to do next?
We seem to have several options.
M NG Magus 1 / Wizard 3 | HP 33/33 | AC13+4 T13 FF10+4 | CMB0 CMD13 | F+6 R+5* W+7* | Init+4 Per+9 (darkvision 60', low-light vision) SM+2 | AP 7/7 bullets 6/6 Called 1/1 | spells M1st 3/2 W1st-2/4 | conditions/effects: extended water breathing 8h, mage armor 2h
I'm fine with whatever; I suspect it will often come down to someone taking the initiative and saying what we are going to do. :) In lieu of preferences, we can just proceed down the list in order. I think we should pay Sanvil right away now that we have our reward, and it looked like some of us were doing some shopping, so maybe once we all confirm we're done we can go to the Gambling Hall and then get ready to go back into the caves?
LG fm dwarf Gunslinger1/Brawler2; 20/32hp, Grit 4/4 l AC18, T11, FF 17 l F +8, R +6, W +4, Ini +1 l Perc +7 l Active Conditions: (none)
Xaerai would want to pay back any debt owed as quickly as possible, so I'm good with that being priority #1. And other than the meeting it looks like most of the other points are resolvable by going back to the dungeon.
sigh Xaerai doesn't want to go through the nasty lake water again...
NG Male Tiefling Alchemist (Chirurgeon/Crypt Breaker/Wasteland Blighter) 3 |HP:19/21|(2 NL) AC: 14 T: 12 FF: 12 | CMB:+3 CMD: 15 | F: +3 R: +5 W: +2 | Init: +2 | Perc: +7, (+8 to locate traps) SM: +1 | Darkvision 60' | Speed 30 ' |(SLA) Darkness/CLW 0/1 | Bomb 5/8,(DC 16 Splash) | Formula: 1st 1/5 | Active Conditions: None
Sorry I have lost track of the division of gold. How much has each of us received thus far?
And what is our credit line?
Sorry again
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No worries! Everyone's share of the loot was 1,000 GP, plus a masterwork weapon (or equivalent in cash). The credit line is 100 GP for each of you.
NG Male Tiefling Alchemist (Chirurgeon/Crypt Breaker/Wasteland Blighter) 3 |HP:19/21|(2 NL) AC: 14 T: 12 FF: 12 | CMB:+3 CMD: 15 | F: +3 R: +5 W: +2 | Init: +2 | Perc: +7, (+8 to locate traps) SM: +1 | Darkvision 60' | Speed 30 ' |(SLA) Darkness/CLW 0/1 | Bomb 5/8,(DC 16 Splash) | Formula: 1st 1/5 | Active Conditions: None
sorry Ive been absent-should i RP Tyn's roll or simply take the loss? either way is cool gambling is gambling...
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No worries, Tyn! You can roll them yourself if you like.
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