CG Halfling Ninja 1 | AC 17, T 16, FF 12 | DR1/Slashing or Piercing | 10/10 hp | Fort +2, Ref +8, Will +1| Init +7 | Percep +4 | CMD 14
Oh, GM! A quick question for you regarding my weapon.
Kusarigama:
Statistics
Cost 12 gp Weight 3 lbs.
Damage 1d2/1d4 (small), 1d3/1d6 (medium); Critical x2; Range —; Type S or B; Special double, grapple, monk, reach, trip
Category Two-Handed; Proficiency Exotic
Weapon Groups Double; Flails; Monk
Description
This weapon has a single kama or sickle held in the off hand, attached by 10 feet of fine chain to a weighted metal ball. The sickle can be used to make trip attacks, jabs, and blocks, while the ball is whipped around at high speeds and then smashed into the opponent, or used to tangle an opponent’s sword or spear, allowing the wielder to then attack with the sickle.
Now, there's been a lot of discussion on the boards as to the specifics of how this works.
The most realistic interpretation is that the kama end deals the higher damage as slashing, and functions as a trip weapon.
Meanwhile, the ball-on-a-chain end functions as a reach weapon with grapple and trip.
Together they form a monk and double weapon. This is somewhat supported by the Description.
However, by total RAW alone and ignoring the description, both ends of the weapon function as a double, grapple, monk, reach, trip weapon.
I just want to know what your interpretation is; Uwu can function just as well either way!
The most realistic interpretation is that the kama end deals the higher damage as slashing, and functions as a trip weapon.
Meanwhile, the ball-on-a-chain end functions as a reach weapon with grapple and trip.
Together they form a monk and double weapon. This is somewhat supported by the Description.
However, by total RAW alone and ignoring the description, both ends of the weapon function as a double, grapple, monk, reach, trip weapon.
I just want to know what your interpretation is; Uwu can function just as well either way!
I'm going to make this a general note to everyone, but especially you, the spiritualist, and the kineticist (whose classes I don't know well).
I freely admit that I am not a walking encyclopedia of Pathfinder knowledge. I'm a relatively new player to Pathfinder, and I didn't play D&Ds 2e-4e, so I don't even have the "well it worked this way in 3.5" history.
As such, I'm going to more or less assume that you are tracking everything properly. I know generally how double weapons and kineticist burn works, but not specifically. As long as it doesn't seem like you're pushing a minority opinion to gain an unfair advantage, I'm going to take your word for it.
If there are multiple interpretations, I tend to favor the majority opinion; if there is no clear majority, I will by default go for the more limiting interpretation (I'd rather be the jerk GM that won't let a player do something awesome than the jerk GM that makes every other GM's life harder by allowing something they won't).
Specifically for the kusarigama, I think the "realistic" approach appears to be more limiting (otherwise, you will end up adding 1.5xSTR to each end, correct?), and I'm fine with that.
CG Halfling Ninja 1 | AC 17, T 16, FF 12 | DR1/Slashing or Piercing | 10/10 hp | Fort +2, Ref +8, Will +1| Init +7 | Percep +4 | CMD 14
Uwu has 10 STR, so she's not adding any STR to either end no matter what!
But yes, I'm happy to go with the "realistic" interpretation. Means I have to 5-foot step if I want to TWF, but I'm fine with that! Feels more "accurate" than swinging a sickle around by a chain, especially when that chain's more on the blade end than the grip.
As for Double Weapons rules:
There's a little rules debate, but using a Quarterstaff as the most classic example:
You can wield it two-handed to make a single attack at 1.5xSTR or you can make two attacks, adding 1xSTR to one attack's damage and .5xSTR to the "off-hand" one. Effectively, a double weapon can count as a two-handed weapon OR a one-handed weapon and a light weapon, depending on how you choose to use it.
Male Half-orc Bard (archaeologist) / 6 HP 44/51 | AC 23 F 20 T 13 | Init +3 | F +8 R +12 W +9 | Perception (+12) | Darkvision 60'
Ha. Another drawback of Bahram's is that he has darkvision, so he never learned 'light.' When he gained a level, he was thinking about all of the gunk he had to clean off of his axe and learned prestidigitation instead of light. Oops. Sorry.
CG Halfling Ninja 1 | AC 17, T 16, FF 12 | DR1/Slashing or Piercing | 10/10 hp | Fort +2, Ref +8, Will +1| Init +7 | Percep +4 | CMD 14
Left side is the area with the Arodenite portraits/inscriptions/murals, right area is the one that's been described with the pool, the gillman, and the mini-Absalom (and a few of us are entering now).
Male TN Half-Orc Spiritualist 2 | HP 15/15 | AC 16 T 12 FF 14 | CMB +2, CMD 14 | F: +3, R: +2, W: +6 | Init: +2 | Perc: +3, SM: +3 | Speed 30ft | Switchscythe: +3, 2d4+1 | Spells: 1st 3/3 | Active conditions: None.
GM Watery Soup wrote:
Please agree on a marching order and move your icons into slide 3.
I'm ok with William being in the back. It would probably be better for Don to be nearer to the front, but even in his semi-corporeal form (which I'm switching him to before we move on) he can still stick to the sides in a fairly narrow passageway.
CG Halfling Ninja 1 | AC 17, T 16, FF 12 | DR1/Slashing or Piercing | 10/10 hp | Fort +2, Ref +8, Will +1| Init +7 | Percep +4 | CMD 14
Uwu should generally be near the front—ideal situation is for her to go before enemies and start close enough to TWF some shurikens into them, but failing that, she can grab her kusarigama and get info flanking ASAP.
Male NG aerokineticist 2 | HP 23/23, 0NL | AC 15, t13, ff12 | CMB +1, CMD 14 | F+7 R+6 W+1 | Init +5 | Perc +6, SM +1 | Speed 20ft | Burn 0/7 | Active conditions: none
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