GM Kate's Extinction Curse [closed]

Game Master Kate Baker

That is fine with me!

Oh goddess it’s the murder clown from the player’s guide D:

It is! And his name is Jellico Bounce-Bounce!

Oh no! So I was right on him being a creepy clown.

Who is holding on to the dancing scarf? Niksi would happily use it if nobody else is interested.

Who is holding on to the dancing scarf? Niksi would happily use it if nobody else is interested.

Mukluk wasn’t going to take the stuff, tbh. Not sure it’s treasure or looting from the family.

Ah, right. That's why we didn't. Sorry, suddenly lots of games due to the pbp gameday and much more stuff to keep track of

You could take it to use while helping them and then return it. I assumed you were most likely to make use of it.

Yup, we are just Kender borrowing it. :)

I forgot to award Hero Points! Mukluk and Prism get Hero Points for outstanding work against the swarm and Niksi and Rova get hero points for very entertaining flashbacks.

I just looked at the most recent art. Is anyone else concerned that Viktor appears to be a faceless stalker?

He may have just burned his facial features off. It happens. :)

Can everyone verify that you've updated the skills table, now on Slide 3? I think it might have first-level values still.

Updated now.

Updated as well

Done.

Updated!

Okay, I'm seeing people at less than full hit points, but I am fine with assuming that everyone took time to heal between events and we're just not rolling because it's tedious. If y'all felt very strongly about heading to this barn quickly, that's fine, but otherwise, just heal up to full.

Since they've not officially offered, I'm adding the millers' loot (and this barn loot) to the list.

Niksi can take the scarf; anyone want the savior spike?

Niksi can take the scarf; anyone want the savior spike?

Uh, no.

I just don’t get magic items in 2e all all. /rant on

If I understand the Savior Spike correctly...

It costs about 1/2 a year’s salary.
It is a one time use item.
It requires Expert in reflexes.
The triggering condition is only when you’re trying to grab a ledge.
You trigger it before you roll, so it might be expended, but not provide any benefit.
When it triggers, you still needs to succeed before it has any benefit.
If it triggers, the benefit is marginal.

It’s just awful. I don’t get it.

As a player, I feel guilty selling it because it implies that, as the seller, I actually think it has value. Gah.

/rant off.

So how do you really feel?

It's only 7 gp. That's hardly a lot. I believe Expert in Reflexes is just to craft it (but don't have the rules here to doublecheck right now), not to use it.

It also helps you if you really mess up.

So how do you really feel?

It's only 7 gp. That's hardly a lot. I believe Expert in Reflexes is just to craft it (but don't have the rules here to doublecheck right now), not to use it.

It also helps you if you really mess up.

Hmm...not sure we’re reading the same description...

7gp is a lot of money. Heck, it’s half your starting gold for starting a new character or a full set of chain mail.

And it doesn’t help you at all if you really mess up. It helps you more only if you succeed, and some slight help if you critically fail.

Meh.

Mukluk, did you remember the 9 hp I healed with Soothe in your total HP?

Mukluk, did you remember the 9 hp I healed with Soothe in your total HP?

Oops! Yes I did. Thank you. I thought that you had cast it on Rova, but now see that you did it on Muk a while back. My apologies.

Will update shortly.

No prob. I am just glad I made the right call in using it earlier! I’m still feeling out the healing meta in PF2. It seems to me like healing people early to prevent them going down in the first place is best move, since the Wounded condition and progression of dying can lead to a vicious cycle. In the event someone goes down anyways, I have stabilize now so we have a fallback for when I’m out of heals.

Yup, that is a good way of looking at it. Between that and damage mitigation from shields and Champion reactions.

Yeah, it's definitely a little different.

Also, Mukluk, looking back a little, I think you were right about the spike. You do have to be an expert in Reflex to use the spike. It does kind of suck.

Also, Mukluk, looking back a little, I think you were right about the spike. You do have to be an expert in Reflex to use the spike. It does kind of suck.

:)

Mukluk rises up and fights again, buoyed by correctness!! YES!!

I'm working up on a longer post to respond to Mukluk. It's my birthday today so I might not get it up until tomorrow. Apologies for the delay!

Happy birthday!

I'm working up on a longer post to respond to Mukluk. It's my birthday today so I might not get it up until tomorrow. Apologies for the delay!

Ain't no thang. Take your time...and it's gorgeous today in our City by the Bay. So enjoy your birthday.

Happy Birthday!

Thanks everyone! I had a lovely day

I believe that the AoO has to crit in order to stop the spell from happening, but correct me if I'm wrong!

I believe that the AoO has to crit in order to stop the spell from happening, but correct me if I'm wrong!

No, I think you're right, just not sure how its still alive...it's taken 2 nice cold iron hits. But actually, I dunno how much cold iron matters tho.

Meh.

It was just barely alive.

Yup, you are right. there is another feat later than can interrupt on a normal hit.

Can I get an Intimidate check from Mukluk to go along with the clanging?

Uh, no. Sadly, and respectfully no...because rules.

The way I understand the aid rules (and correct me if I'm wrong), the DC to aid is the actual DC (or 20 is typical) and there is penalty for failure...in that, Mukluk is more likely to hurt than help the check.

With a -1 modifier, his actions are roleplay, nothing more.

Also, I don't like the aid rules in 2e...because it causes less dice rolling and if there is a point to dang game, it should be more dice rolling.

That would be true if this were a single check! There are other ways to evaluate skill checks, such as everyone tries and highest result counts or everyone tries and you need a certain number of successes.

Everyone else did really well, so this is a success regardless of Mukluk's result, but I promise I will never prompt for a check if it's likely to hurt the group. I will also be clear if the group is limited to one check and you need to be careful about who is the main roller and whether anyone wants to aid.

Everyone else did really well, so this is a success regardless of Mukluk's result, but I promise I will never prompt for a check if it's likely to hurt the group. I will also be clear if the group is limited to one check and you need to be careful about who is the main roller and whether anyone wants to aid.

Thank you for the explanation. I think this is really cool to know for this game.

I think aid works better at higher levels, but that's exactly why I prefer multiple-check types of situations. They're pretty common in Society scenarios, but maybe not in the other 2e content that you've played. Having the party try to succeed at 3 out of 4 checks is more interesting to me than whether one PC succeeds or fails.

I really appreciate it, too. One of the things I dislike about making aid so much harder (and possibly hurting you) is that it discourages people from trying to help each other. I know it was probably meant as a reaction against the "aid callouts" that happen all the time in PFS, and I get that, but it does have some side effects I don't like. Your stance, Kate, makes me feel much more comfortable "going for it."

Aid checks certainly are much harder and nearly unusable in the early levels. Not much chance in aiding anything until mid game.

Interesting perspective. I liked the change to Aid, since before it was just "aid, aid, aid, aid" and felt silly to me.

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That said, keep your 1e peanut butter out of our 2e chocolate. That's Intimidation to you now! :D

That was silly to me, too, but it was outweighed for me by how it gave new/less optimized characters an easy way to contribute. I also like anything that makes the game more team-focused :D

Yay for level 3! Will update ASAP. And maybe try to go through our loot.

Grr. Fricking Paizo just ate my post.

+12 hp
+ Iron Will: Will becomes expert
+ General Feat: Skill Training (Religion)
+ Skill Increase (Medicine to expert)