
Lindynt Auroral |

We won't be able to win this encounter physically; this guy is obviously far more powerful than we are. The only thing it is demanding is blood, what if we attempt to lure the beastmen back to it to satisfy it's demands? It's been summoned here so it must have a master. By completing the incantation we would take the status of "master" and then we command it back to zodiac hell or whatever.
Thoughts? Complaints? Frustrated punches out of disgust for such a ludicrous plan?

Vance Lodune |

I have a couple things to try.
First is weapon upgrades. It might be that his DR is /magic, in which case any enchanted weapon will defeat it.
Second is energy damage. Even if his DR is /- it might be that we can get around it in other ways. If he's not immune to fire we have some options, given that there's a lot of it around.
Lastly, we need to hamper him. Anyone have a Tanglefoot bag we can hit him with? Even if he makes his save he'll still lose some mobility and AC. Other Debuffs are worth trying too.

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Well seems you have plenty of options ^^ to go by.
You can defeat this creature, there is more than one way to win an encounter and not necessarily drop his hit points to 0 could be to just lower it enough for it to consider escaping.
Well there are other options like you are commenting ^^ also

Alaire |

Well...I'm only able to hit it on an 18 and can't actually damage it so I think reducing its hp isn't on the list for Alaire right now.
I have no spells left to buff weapons so that is out too (a shield of faith and deathwatch if I remember right, the later I'm forced to take as a domain spell so it can't even be subbed out). I have a strong suspicion it has at least some resistance to fire but that might be possible.
Sadly no tanglefoot bag either, though that would have been a nice thing to try.
As for the other plans presented, not sure though Alaire will do what he can.

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I still feel like it would be a very bad idea to get caught next to this thing. Why not give it another round or two before we make a decision on charging into melee
Well I'm waiting on some people but will have then DMNPC by the en of the day if they do not act soon and re-recruit people and just kick the inactive players.

Vance Lodune |

Vance did you make a mistake on your damage calculation? You did a d8 last time and a d10 this time so I'm curious. Not familiar with guns very much though.
Typo. Rerolling here. 1d8 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 = 5
Sorry. Thanks for the catch.

Akela the Wolf |

I still feel like it would be a very bad idea to get caught next to this thing. Why not give it another round or two before we make a decision on charging into melee
Too late, if wee don't do something it will just tear into us with gigaspark. Im going while there are still flankers. If things turn sour, Ill fall back or be dead already.

Doomed Hero |

I'm not trying to argumentative here, but I'd like to clarify something.
In this case it wasn't anything forgotten. His math was correct from the beginning, Akela just didn't know if Lions Call was still active. (it was the final round and initiative order is a little wonkey)
That's not a math error, it's just erring on the side of caution due to a lack of understanding of the round order.
In the future I think we should all be careful to do the opposite, adding in every possible bonus we can think of, even ones that might not be valid, and noting them with our attack. That way Deiros has documentation of what we think we're getting/doing and can simply subtract anything that doesn't apply.
As we've seen it can be the difference between important success or failure.

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In his case it is true and I accept it since he wasn't sure ^^ and you are right.
Think I wasn't clear which happens sometimes, I meant it for when after I put the round summary then someone would say oh wait! I forgot I had my +1 from X feat to do X thing so I should have gotten X to happen. I've seen this to many times of players or DM forgetting to apply a bonus of penalty of something after a round has ended so even if it's my mistake and you guys notice it, I will pay for it and won't go back on the round summary as it should be fair ^^
This is not that case since he knew and told me before hand I agree to find out if it applied or not after reading lion's call, still at work (hate covering for someone in the weekend) so I have no access to the book but I still corrected it and trust it counts so he tripped Adrem ^^ and now he is kneeling before a bunch of PC's and very pissed lol

Doomed Hero |

In the future, those of us who have timed effects going should leave a counter going in their combat blocks. I will at least. Could be helpful later on when we have wizards, clerics, druids and bards buffing everyone up during combat.
A summery of existing group effects (lion's call, bardsong, ect) might be included in Dieros's end of round summary, noted in ooc text?

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Common (Kingdom)
Common (trader's Tongue) <---This would be the worldwide common that most people speak to a certain degree.
Then there are the regular pathfinder languages this region mostly common languages are:
Gnoll, Giant, Draconic, Orc and Goblin.
You might also choose extraplanar languages if you want they are all valid
except abyssal and infernal since its the same thing and it's called Abyssal.
Yes it's ok Akela to not mention since you aren't the prone one.
Which reminds me to add Prone in the battlemap so everyone know he is prone next to his name.

Vance Lodune |

Sorry, didn't realize it was on me. Next time just assume I shot him again, for all the good it's doing.
Don't suppose there's anything more I can do? I'm about out of options. I have no more spells today and my only weapon is not really cutting it. Any GM advice?

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Sorry, didn't realize it was on me. Next time just assume I shot him again, for all the good it's doing.
Don't suppose there's anything more I can do? I'm about out of options. I have no more spells today and my only weapon is not really cutting it. Any GM advice?
You are doing damage with your magic bullets just not lethal. Just keep at it the amount of damage he is taking is close to make him flee or truly commit on killing you.

Alaire |

As you attempt to channel your holy energy to keep your friends going on you notice there isn't that many anymore you can channel but you mistakenly target someone you didn't wanted... Are the others dead?...
Can I get some clarification on this? If it is a spoiler that is fine, but I do have selective channeling so I shouldn't be targeting creatures that I don't choose to. He knew Adrem was in there and would have not targeted him. Something I want to clarify just in case this comes up again.
Prerequisite: Cha 13, channel energy class feature.
Benefit: When you channel energy, you can choose a number of targets in the area up to your Charisma modifier. These targets are not affected by your channeled energy.
Normal: All targets in a 30-foot burst are affected when you channel energy. You can only choose whether or not you are affected.

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Yes basically there are only 5 players:
Alaire, Vance, Lindynt, Akela and Nichelle will join up in the following scene.
Alaire you are right I just sometimes favor cinematic moments of DMfiat like that one for flavor, role playing and tiny detail that he was about to flee anyway and you got a hint of his weakness.