Valgrymr's Homebrew Two

Game Master Valegrim

Goblins infest a fallen Dwarven underground fortress and mine; somewhere inside PCs must find and recover a critical treasure hidden by the Dwarven Clerics of Dumathion.


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Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

Ok; thought we might need a cohesive discussion thread up so we are all looking in the same place for information. Post all out of RP information and other game things here; thanks.


Muchly appreciated. It was rather difficult to find the other one.


Male Half-Orc 9th lvl Cleric, 4th lvl Ninja, 1st lvl Black Flame Zealot

Good luck in Val's game. Its always an adventure. I'm sure you will have a great time.

I have to say I am fans of Glosil and Sunset. Your characters crack me up.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

Val,

I just had a thought, a fledgling of an idea, and it leads to a question.

Could Gloisil use his kettle and spoon to cook or brew the correct antidote for the mushroom spores even though we haven't been able to collect all the right ingredients?

Just wondering, let me know, thanks.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

you certainly can try; the more ingrediants you have the better.


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

*facepalm* Y'know, some things seem perfectly fine upon writing and re-reading.. It takes them being quoted before one sees the awkwardness that somehow managed to get engineered into it.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

yes, very true; but it can bring wide smiles hehe and people wondering


By all means, feel free to roll any and all rolls for me if it will make things more expedient. I haven't tried the new dice code for the forums, but for any momentary situation that would just slow down the game in waiting for a response, by all means don't wait for me.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

I just keep some dice here by my computer; it doesnt matter to me if you use a online dice roller or just roll real dice; the honor system is good enough for me; and I mix up the rolls and topsty turvey stuff now and again where a failure is a success and like that; so just put out a number; who knows what will happen; I have lots of charts for various things. who knows; maybe a Fey is messing around or a demigod or wierd plantetary mystical alignments hehe; I try to keep things moving and lively.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

As for speed of responses; I think we will get into a rythmn that everyone decides is the pace; I try to keep things going but I am not in a hurry or pushy; I really want people to play their characters; but if someone is missing for a week or so; will make a play for them. I am very thankful that everyone has been so polite by saying that they wont be able to post for x number days; always nice to know and very thoughful; thanks for that.


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

Ah, well then.. In that case, 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 2 = 19

Will that do?


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

got it; just waiting on other's rolls.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

just FYI; as this is Thanksgiving week; will not be posting after Wednesday afternoon until next Monday; will be traveling.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5
Valegrim wrote:

just FYI; as this is Thanksgiving week; will not be posting after Wednesday afternoon until next Monday; will be traveling.

I'll be in and out myself all this week, but I'll check when I can.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

cool; thanks for the heads up; am guessing it will be like that for all of us; no worries


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

Do feel free to roll initiative or any single necessary roll for me. In a PbP, I perceive the emphasis on the Post, and not filling a line just to have a single roll. Otherwise, I'll roll initiative the next time I post.


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

So as not to break the continuity with a single post (more than has to be done), Here's Desidera's atk roll for healing Galen. (just minus 1 if I can't get dex on the to-hit)
1d20 + 1 ⇒ (10) + 1 = 11


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

Just for more concrete information on Gloisil's condition other than my description, he is down to one hp.

Val, I think for my next turn I'll just spend my actions painting a big red and white target on Gloisil. :-)

Just kidding, I'll be trying to fry another of those nasty goblins. Been DMing so long in my RL group I've forgotten what it is like to play a first level character. It's kind of exciting to be on the edge of death ..., I think.


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

Oh, another person for Desi to lecture once this encounter is done with? That is so going to be a fun post to write! =3


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

well, you could dive for cover and take some other action; as your a caster you dont have the shooting into melee penalty that most ranged guys have; so you could back away to side whereas you cant get shot and spell snipe some in melee if you choose to; would decrease the mob bonus these guys are getting;

on another note; these guys are worth lot more exps than the ones you fought upstairs at the entrance; should be the first real test of the pc's abilities and a real sloggernocker; you guys are giving it; a few more gobbies and I will have to begin testing to see if they break.


Male Human (Britonian/Azurin) Earthblood Knight/2
Me'mori wrote:

So as not to break the continuity with a single post (more than has to be done), Here's Desidera's atk roll for healing Galen. (just minus 1 if I can't get dex on the to-hit)

1d20+1

Is that for Elsdyn or did you switch targets via last minute info?

Galen, I am only keeping track of my own HPs, not really sure where everyone else is at. My character is new to the group and doesnt know, what he would call procedure, so since Desidera called for status last round I replied that I would need aid 'soon' which for my case met I was down 9, had 6 left and was taking an average of 3 a round. So I had a decent chance to survive the next round but would likely need aid before their attack the following round or I would go down. In simpler terms I thought it would give her enough time to consider her options rather than an emergency call (character has been fighting a war for several years...or at least watching given he is only 1st level, so he sort of thinks like that. ;) Had my character realized you were worse off he would have called the aid to you immediately, he just didnt know.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

that is what little fights like these are for; so we can all see how it goes and work out details


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3
Elsdyn Fedwick wrote:
Me'mori wrote:

So as not to break the continuity with a single post (more than has to be done), Here's Desidera's atk roll for healing Galen. (just minus 1 if I can't get dex on the to-hit)

1d20+1

Is that for Elsdyn or did you switch targets via last minute info?

Galen, I am only keeping track of my own HPs, not really sure where everyone else is at. My character is new to the group and doesnt know, what he would call procedure, so since Desidera called for status last round I replied that I would need aid 'soon' which for my case met I was down 9, had 6 left and was taking an average of 3 a round. So I had a decent chance to survive the next round but would likely need aid before their attack the following round or I would go down. In simpler terms I thought it would give her enough time to consider her options rather than an emergency call (character has been fighting a war for several years...or at least watching given he is only 1st level, so he sort of thinks like that. ;) Had my character realized you were worse off he would have called the aid to you immediately, he just didnt know.

Oop.. Name confusion (all you fighter-types look alike =p) That was for you. Galen got attention in this current round.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5
Valegrim wrote:

I would think your crossbow would start cocked; so just a quick action to load a bolt in it; provided you put it away loaded you can always start that way; xbows can be left cocked nearly all the time unlike bows as bowstrings are usually catgut and the like and stretch over time and xbow strings are usually some type of cable and do not.

Gloisil Murigel wrote:

Gloisil seeing the goblin archers turn and run, looks to see where he can turn his attention. But seeing that the only goblins left are the ones Galen and Elsdyn are fighting. Not wanting to shoot into the melee that his companions are engaged in, he stops and just takes some time to assess the situation.

As he does so he reaches around and get his crossbow where it is attached to his back and begins to load it.

Gloisil puts away his wand and prepares his crossbow in case it is needed.

Even if the crossbow is already set, I think I have three move actions in there. One to put away the wand, then to retrieve the crossbow, and last to load a bolt in it.

But, If you'll let me do all that in one round, I won't complain. Either way I be ready to shoot at something next round, but I think there will not be a need once Galen and Elsdyn have their chance to hit those poor goblins that didn't get the message to retreat.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

I was assuming the wand was in a quick draw style wand holster which is common in my game; so that is a quick action, a move action if you carry then in a bag somewhere that needs to be opened and closed; I am guessing that the xbow is slug; so a quick action; if you have it strapped down; well that would be a move action to get it ready; then a quick action to draw and put in a bolt if you have them in a quarrel quiver that has them easily accessable; move action if they are not; longer if there down in the bottom of your backpack.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

I didn't know about all those options that you have in your campaign, so I was just playing by standard rules. In the past games I have played in, a first level character would almost never had access to such things. They usually are cost prohibitive to a first level character.

Also, I like playing the lower levels best because I like the challenge of being a character that has few skills and abilities, and has to find a way to survive with what he has. I don't even mind "dying" as long as the odds aren't impossible and I gave it my best shot.

Playing in a game where we start with some pretty "advanced" equipment has taken some getting used to, but I'm getting there.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

Think of it this way if it helps; the world has been at war on this continent for nearly 12 years; every inovation to be successful is fairly common place; the old quick and the dead idea; your either one or the other.

One the Eastern continent; they have been dominated and at war with some scattered pockets of freedom fighters for about 16 years; the southern continent; about three years; the Western Continent just finished a very long civil war about 2 years ago.

Consider that the population is about 1/3 what it was just 15 years ago; the bad guys have made a very concertend effort to steal; abscond; buy; or by any means neccessary aquire as many magic items as they could and remove them to the Vaults in the City State of Tarantis and had been doing this for about 20 years; so after so many magic items were gone; the war started; after nearly all of them gone; the invasion by demons. So while not many magic items are available, there is a lot of other convential gear that nobody is around to use anymore so is more readily available.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

Gnomes, being very good allies with the Dwarves; have some pretty good information sources; and being a race, like halflings, that have the travel bug, they have a general idea of the big picture.

anything that comes up; you might have heard a story or two from Hava Gooday or Petrovich Cronefist (Peter the Small), or any of several other gnome heroes from your area. Members of your clan have been involved in this Central continent since "The Mob" came up out of the Underdark about 60 miles away from here and together with a Demonic Astral Battlecruiser; attacked the castle of some powerful adventurers. This was a pivital moment that every gnome in your clan knows; as related by a gnome theif who was one of those adventurers; I forget his name atm; He told the story of the Capture of Kosan, Priest of Dumathion, the betrayal of the parties Mage who sold out to the Demon Rheabau and how that Mage was given the position of the High Mage of City State of Tarantis; the story continues with the cowardice of the powerful barbarian who carried the Pick of Ages; and how the Pick punished him <the pick dissappeard so could not be taken by the bad guys which was probably the point of the attack on the PC's castle; to get the two items of legend; the Pick of Ages and Thunderfoot. Anyway; Kosan escapes the Abyss with the help of a half human demon princess and starts his quest of mucho payback.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

So; the gnomes are a lot more prepared to the reality of war than most. The elves have generally retreated last 6 years or so and nobody has seen one; been in denial most people think; and from there prospective; this was a human problem started and propogated by humans and was not there problems to solve; they actually killed a whole lot of humans in retribution; something about humans screwing up the state of dreams and bad things moving through Faerie. It was only with the Appearance of the Snakemen that the Elven Host joined the war.


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

Once more, my math is suspect.

Taking 10 + Heal Skill + Kit Bonus + Sunset assist:
10 + 9 + 2 + 2 = 23


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

As I recall, this being 3.5 and not Pathfinder, a successful heal roll does not return any HP to the person being treated. It does, however allow for increased recovery rates during rest, and the bandaging was the proper thing to do post-battle, being the examining/cleaning, binding and bandaging, even if it serves even a cosmetic purpose.

IIRC, Heal can stabilize on a successful check, but-- eh, let me just look it up.

3.5 Skill: Heal
Use this skill to keep a badly wounded friend from dying, to help
others recover faster from wounds, to keep your friend from succumbing
to a wyvern’s sting, or to treat disease.

Pf Skill: Heal
You are skilled at tending to wounds and ailments.

No immediate change. Possibly some alteration in the table and following description, but no immediate gain of HP. (see Healing Surge)


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

Well I was going to post the info from the heal skill as well, but Me'mori beat me to it.

As she said, there is the long-term care option as part of a heal check that allows for a PC to recover twice the number of hit point as he/she would normally in an 8 hour or 24 hour period, but that requires the injured PC to stop for that long and be cared for by the PC or NPC doing the heal check.


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

Alright, since Desidera just took ten on a Heal check, what is everyone's current HP at out of how much?


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

I'm at full hit points, which is 5 hp.


Male Human (Britonian/Azurin) Earthblood Knight/2

I am full up, your last heal topped me off and the goblins missed from that point on.

Sorry about the late posts btw, work has got me under the gun and I have even had to come in on my days off, so not much time for me lately.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

Val, I didn't get the latest map. If you could send it to me that would be great. If you need my email again, let me know.

Also, I will be out of town this weekend and may not be able to post again until Tuesday.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

ok; I sent it out; I sure with my mail would let me group peeps; ah well.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

If the top of the last map that was sent is north, I thought that Bob was leading us down the side passage to the south. If I remember correctly, neither Bob or Gloisil liked the looks of the area of the main hall that had the chains dangling from the ceiling.


Male Human (Britonian/Azurin) Earthblood Knight/2

All, just thought I would let you know that Val will likely not be posting this week. His grandmother passed away and so he will be spending time with family. He probably would have posted this himself but got caught up in other things.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

sorry about the delay; had a death in the family, had to go out of town for a while.

thanks for letting peeps know for me; my family is not on the net.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

In the interest of trying to end the lull in the middle of our battle, I thought I'd throw a post out on the discussion thread. Besides, it had disappeared from the list, so this will get us back up near the top for a bit.

Are we waiting for someone in particular? Should we go ahead and start round 4? Just getting a little antsy, I hate cliffhangers.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

Val,

I also forgot to add some bonuses to my last attack for Gloisil. Not that the bonuses to my attack roll will make any difference since I hit anyway, but I may have done more damage.

I don't ever recall seeing a post from Sunset on what the bonuses from her Inspire Courage are. From the rules it looks to be +1 to attack, damage, and fear saves, but I don't know if she has any bonuses that would increase that. So, I at least should have done one more point of damage.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

Val,

I keep forgetting about my familiar. Do you have a problem if I just assume that he has been with me the whole time perched on my shoulder or tucked away safely somewhere, or would you rather assume that he was left back at home?

Not much I can do with him at this point, but he has more hit points then I do and can at least help me to do spot and listen checks. Please let me know what you think. Thanks.


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

you familiar is no problem; still with you, smart enough to stay out of the way or perch somewhere safe; feed itself generally; and like that.

ok; thanks, will update the damage; in the old game of d&d damage made a lot more difference as you got exps for how much damage you did and took, same as treasure in which gp translated into exps; 3.5 does exps differently; so other than taking out an enemy; it doesnt make a whole lot more difference.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

Is the XP that you posted on the main thread the XP for just that battle, or our total so far. I may have missed any other posts about XP earned and I'm just wondering what Gloisil's total is at this point.


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

I searched through the whole campaign up to this point and could see no other mention of experience.


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

Now, I realize that the game has certain limits in regards to what can do what, but I would be amenable to a certain relative amount of leeway in regards to things. "Track" seems to be a bit broad, especially -- Ah. Nevermind. My concern would hold more weight had Desidera taken Skill Focus: Heal.

In this case, she is working off of general experience, and no special training. *makes a note for next feat*


Werehare Inquisitive 3/ Seeker 3/ Bard 3

Here's a relevant question: How much does Prestidigitation clean? I do believe that Sunset prestidigitamated everyone, but the degree of cleanliness that can be achieved from that has always been up for debate. Are we squeaky clean? sparkling? just generally clean?


Male Red headed something or other. Electronics Technician 7/Computer Programmer 8/Database Admin 5

It just says 'clean' in the spell description, so I guess it's up to the DM as to how clean it gets us. Obviously though Val thinks wez ain't that clean. ;-)


Male Efreeti, advanced manthing 45HD

well; it is amount of cleaning involved; you guys were caked and covered in guts; blood; grease; whatnot; I have that spell scale as you get more powerful as a caster. Directed at your own robe; it would be clean; spotless, no stains at starting level; but doing such a large area; it cleans; but not as well. At 5th; 5 people and their robes would be fairly clean, few stains remaining; items bit dull; so at at 10th everyone in this room and thier items would be clean as if ultrawashed; at 20th; everything in the entire room and bit beyond would be pristine clean.

As it did; you spell helped quite a bit; very good to have done considering the amount of harmful materials and substances about.

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