I would put in a claim for the ring of protection maybe the amulet of natural armor.
Vug wants the belt of physical might (+2 Dex/Con); if anyone wants her +2 Dex belt, they're welcome to it. She'll take the quiver and arrows as well, I suppose. And if no one else wants the Eyes of the Eagle, she'll take those too.
If Vug adds Displacement to her formula list, she can craft potions herself.
The Fountain of Dreams was much more than just where the phylactery is. You have knowledge of A LOT of lost lore. For example you now have the very dangerous knowledge of where the Eye of Vecna is...yay, I say go get it and pop it in...or maybe that's a terrible idea and you shouldn't listen when the GM's evil side starts coming out...
Well, now that I have sated my bloodthirsty side for awhile (thanks Ferez! j/k) I'm feeling a mite generous and will share all sorts of arcane secrets you learned from the Fountain. So maybe you want to count all your coppers and buy some of these unique items...
Now these are the 3.5 versions of these items but I am guessing we can come up with reasonable costs and conversions to Pathfinder for them, if you find something that interests you :) I just hated for all this great stuff to go to waste and scanned them into Flickr from my copies of Dragon Magazine. Yay LOOT!
Of course, you need crafters powerful enough to make this stuff if you can't yourselves, but you know some powerful peeps...and you can cast most of the required spells yourselves probably if you just wanted to work directly with a crafter.
By the way, if someone wants an amulet of natural armor +1, Vug has a spare one she's willing to give away; they don't stack with Barkskin +5.
Vulcan and Bublaka both expressed interest in an amulet of natural armor +1 and putting yours in the kitty would make two available. That would allow Bublaka to use the animated shield without reducing his AC and would allow Vulcan to improve his AC by two.
Okay, Vug donates her amulet to the loot pile.
If Vug adds Displacement to her formula list, she can craft potions herself.
If you're taking requests, displacement (3rd level) and elemental body III (6th level) would sure be great potions. The latter would grant immunity to critical hits. Let me know and I'll foot the costs of learning the formulae, if any.
Now these are the 3.5 versions of these items but I am guessing we can come up with reasonable costs and conversions to Pathfinder for them, if you find something that interests you :) I just hated for all this great stuff to go to waste and scanned them into Flickr from my copies of Dragon Magazine. Yay LOOT!
Of course, you need crafters powerful enough to make this stuff if you can't yourselves, but you know some powerful peeps...and you can cast most of the required spells yourselves probably if you just wanted to work directly with a crafter.
GM, the two items that interest me are the Breathdrinker greatsword and the Ring of Death Ward.
Question: shouldn't the ring of death ward be similarly priced to a ring of freedom of movement (40,000 gp instead of 60K listed), as both are continuous 4th level cleric spells on a ring?
Concern: Both of these items are 50+K and according to the crafting rules, it takes 1 day per 1000 gp cost of item, so I have to wait 40-60 days for the item to be crafted. That's not reasonable time to wait, with the whole end of the world happening. Can't take off 2 months. So is it even viable in the game to craft the items? You even stated that this would be our last period of downtime.
Deathward is a hell of a lot more useful that freedom of movement at high level. Ans especially in an undead oriented campaign.
Obviously Cloak of the Sorceror King appeals to me.
We'd work something out with Archmages and pocket dimensions and a Tardis :)
Ok seriously, the process can be accelerated to 1000gp per 4 hours. Which could be sped up with multiple crafters to 6000 gp/day (as any one crafter can only work 8 hours at a time). So your talking a week and a half tops (well 17 days for the Cloak of the Sorcerer King).
I was being too obtuse with the Tenser thing. BT had it right BUT Manzorian is Paizo's nod to the Archmage Tenser (who was historically referred to as "The Manzorian") He and other mage's who had 1st and 2nd edition spells named after them (Tenser's Floating Disk and Tenser's Transformation) were written out of 3rd edition entirely. I think it was an attempt by the 3rd edition authors to make the game less world specific (in this case Greyhawk). I was just sharing a bit of trivia...snarkily and poorly I might add.
Good question. Here are the specifics I was able to come up with.
Ring of Death Ward is Spell level × caster level × 2,000 gp
So that would be (4th level spell)x(7th level caster)x(2,000gp(1min/level))=56,000gp
Ring of Freedom of Movement is (4th level spell)x(7th level caster)x(1,500gp(10min/level))=42,000gp
These are guidelines for magic item pricing so there is a little leeway to adjust prices accordingly (such as the Freedom Ring being only 40k).
The difference in pricing is based off the original spells duration. So 60k seems about right (with a 4k "this is @#$&ing cool tax" in a undead campaign like Vulcan said)
My understanding is that they originally wrote it using the Greyhawk setting (e.g. Balakarde was Bucknard, Manzorian was Tenser, the city for the Champion's Belt was Greyhawk, etc.) but Wizards of the Coast preferred a neutral setting so they replaced any Greyhawk-specific references.
Vug: I believe you are correct in that also, my memory is foggy but that sounds right.
Happy Thanksgivings, all.
Happy Turkey day all!
Ah, I forgot the duration. Okay, will check finances and see what if any, I can afford.
Vug, is that Elemental Body III going to be something possible or not? I am trying to cover myself from critical hits.
Updated Final treasure list for Island:
8 +1 greataxes (9280 gp)
8 +2 hide armors (16660 gp)
+3 studded leather armor (4587.5 gp)
+1 animated heavy steel shield (Bub)
+1 adamantine greataxe (2510 gp)
+1 speed composite longbow (+6 Strength) (16,500 gp)
15 adamantine arrows (Vug)
15 silver arrows (Vug)
15 cold iron arrows (Vug)
15 arrows (Vug)
Efficient quiver (Vug)
Belt of physical perfection +2 (Friar)
Cloak of resistance +2 (2000 gp)
+1 Repeating light crossbow (1275 gp)
+2 Mithril buckler (2502 gp)
Sword of Subtlety (11,155)
Amulet of Natural Armor +1 (Vulcan)
Belt of Physical might (+2 Dex & Con) (Vug)
Cloak of Resistance +2 (2000 gp)
Rod of Thunder and Lightning (16,500 gp)
Eyes of the Eagle (Vug)
Minor Crown of Blasting (3240 gp)
Boots of Springing and Striding (2750 gp)
Ring of Protection +1 (Vulcan)
3 Strings of Enormous Black Pearls (5,000 gp each) = (15,000 gp)
Large sized +1 Mithral Full Plate of Speed (14,000 gp)
Belt of Giant Strength +4 (8000 gp)
Large sized +2 Icy Burst Greatsword (Valgrim - debating)
Belt of Dwarvenkind (7450 gp)
Belt of Dex +2 (2000 gp)
Total: 137,409.5 gp
Share per person: 27,481.9 gp
Yes, she can pick up Elemental Body III. There's also a level 2 called Twisted Organs (from the Pathfinder Society Field Guide) that gives 75% fortification instead.
Oh, master of the treasure list, do you need to calculate in Vug's donated amulet of natural armor +1 and Bublaka's contributed +2 Heavy Shield of Arrow Deflection?
The ring of Death Ward seems like a pretty natural choice out of the sweet items shared. The cloak of the sorcerer king is not a bad item - anything that grants a +6 to charisma sounds pretty good, but that cloak of resistance on my back is supposed to helpful one of these days... ;P
The amulet went straight to you so no need to calculate, but will add the shield.
Definitely Vug, that 2nd level spell is sufficient for my needs. Go for that.
OK - I delayed making changes to my character sheet until I was certain things were accounted for. The amulet has been added and I have swapped the shields.
Purchases:
-consult someone's formula book and copy Twisted Organs: 60 gp
-consult someone's formula book and copy Displacement: 135 gp
-upgrade bow to +1 adaptive seeking undead bane: 11000 gp
-buy boots of escape: 8000 gp
-buy scroll of resurrection: 12275 gp
FINAL LIST:
8 +1 greataxes (9280 gp)
8 +2 hide armors (16660 gp)
+3 studded leather armor (4587.5 gp)
+1 animated heavy steel shield (Bub)
+1 adamantine greataxe (2510 gp)
+1 speed composite longbow (+6 Strength) (16,500 gp)
15 adamantine arrows (Vug)
15 silver arrows (Vug)
15 cold iron arrows (Vug)
15 arrows (Vug)
Efficient quiver (Vug)
Belt of physical perfection +2 (Friar)
Cloak of resistance +2 (2000 gp)
+1 Repeating light crossbow (1275 gp)
+2 Mithril buckler (2502 gp)
Sword of Subtlety (11,155)
Amulet of Natural Armor +1 (Vulcan)
Belt of Physical might (+2 Dex & Con) (Vug)
Cloak of Resistance +2 (2000 gp)
Rod of Thunder and Lightning (16,500 gp)
Eyes of the Eagle (Vug)
Minor Crown of Blasting (3240 gp)
Boots of Springing and Striding (2750 gp)
Ring of Protection +1 (Vulcan)
3 Strings of Enormous Black Pearls (5,000 gp each) = (15,000 gp)
Large sized +1 Mithral Full Plate of Speed (14,000 gp)
Belt of Giant Strength +4 (8000 gp)
Large sized +2 Icy Burst Greatsword (16,200 gp)
Belt of Dwarvenkind (7450 gp)
Belt of Dex +2 (2000 gp)
+2 Heavy steel shield of arrow deflection (8510 gp)
Total: 162,119.5 gp
Share per person: 32,423.9 gp
If I were to have the Cloak of the Sorceror king made, would I be able to have a custom resistance item made for say the head slot, to replace the resistance bonus?
Purchases:
Veil of Fleeting Glances (9000 gp)
Amulet of Hidden Strength (9000 gp)
Bracelet of Second Chances (15750 gp)
Ioun Stone (Dusty rose prism) (5000 gp)
Scroll of Resurrection (12275 gp)
5 Scrolls of Death ward (3500 gp)
5 potions Bull's Strength (1500 gp)
5 potions of protection from evil (250 gp)
Remaining: 6,747.34 gp
Expenditure of funds so far:
Ring of Transposition – 10,800
Headband of the Stalwart Warrior (reclassified as a Helmet) – 14,000
Scroll of Resurrection – 12,275
Dragonbane Scepter – 5500
Edit List:
Ring of Counterspells (with Greater Dispel Magic) instead of Ring of Transposition - 4000 gp
One last item:
Wand of Communal Resist Energy with 30 charges cast 11th level- 14850
Total: 50625
32,423.9+19,976.4=52400.3
Remaining gold: 1775.3 gp
Will have my selections posted in a bit
More purchases:
* two earrings which each contain a 100 gp diamond, suitable for use as a Magic Jar = 300 gp (?)
* 1 belt pouch = 1 gp
More shopping:
4 doses of 250 gp diamond dust for stoneskin = 1000 gp
5000 gp diamond (resurrection/greater restoration)
Remaining: 747.34 gp
Bub, since we're going to deal with giants, perhaps some scrolls of Dominate Person or similar magic may be worth it, since they tend not to have high Will saves. I plan on memorizing Murderous Command for this reason. Think about it.
GM, as we reach the highest levels of the game, I wish to know how you feel about spells like greater planar ally and gate, with which I can summon 18th level outsiders or up to 34 HD creature, depending on what I can afford. I don't want to make the game crowded or give you more work to do like increasing the CR of encounters and right now, I don't have any funds. Just want to know if this is something I should save gold for or should I concentrate my funds elsewhere in the future?
You absolutely can gate in outsiders and such. There is even a Wormsfood article in Dragon Magazine that gives unique outsiders to summon. They will need to be updated of course but I think we can manage. With our maps it should be cake.
Gate is expensive, requiring 10K in offerings and then the called creature's fee.
GPA requires 2500 gp in offerings and base 1700 gp for 17 mins (could be various fights) for a Planetar. May be worth it. Time to start the summoning fund!
Will sell:
Collection of books: +4 circumstance bonus on Knowledge (arcana) checks having to do with necromancy and a +4 circumstance bonus on Knowledge (religion) checks having to do with gods of death and undeath. They are worth (8,000 gp) as a collection, and weigh 50 pounds in all.
Trophy from 1st fight (1000 gp)
Trophy of dwarven gladiator (worth 5000 gp)
Gold statuette of a human gladiator (worth 10000 gp)
We have Bubba take 20 on Knowledge (Planes) so he can tell us all about angels!
A Planetar has true seeing; DR; regeneration; SR; immune to electricity, cold, and acid; flight; and cast as 16th level clerics (will take healing strain off Friar a little), hits hard with a holy sword, with over 200 hps! I think we should call one in the day we leave for the giants' homeland and contract him for 10 days - 12,500 gp (may be less, may be more) seems cheap for all the benefits it brings. Of course, bringing an angel with us would kill any chance at diplomacy with the giants, as I assume they're evil, which is fine with Valgrim but may not be with party goals.
Since the treasures sold were all group treasures, I would like everyone's input on setting up the fund and if you think this would be a wise investment.
Bub, since we're going to deal with giants, perhaps some scrolls of Dominate Person or similar magic may be worth it, since they tend not to have high Will saves. I plan on memorizing Murderous Command for this reason. Think about it.
I was going to suggest Symbol of Persuasion as a possibility for Father Feres, too.
Can Bub also take 20 on a Knowledge check about Dragotha and what powers he might have?
Thanks, Vug. I had not looked at that spell. Though I don't have the 5K material component for that spell.
Valgrim, I'm fine with the Planetar. He has the same alignment as myself and Sarenrae, so he should react well to us. I have a decent diplomacy which can be buffed with Touch of Glory, so maybe I can negotiate the price. Another front-line fighter would help a lot too.
Even with his share it will take time for Vulcan to be abler to afford to have the Cloak of the Sorceror king made, but that's his goal, I'd also be selling the following:
Necklace of Fireballs 2 5d6 1 3d6
Headband of Alluring Charisma +6
Sorceror's Robe (Apply 1st level power to 3 spells per day)
Cloak of Resistance +5
What would your total gold be at after selling those items Vulcan? Seems like you would be pretty close.
Necklace of Fireballs 2 5d6 1 3d6 = 975 gp
Headband of Alluring Charisma +6 = 18000 gp
Sorceror's Robe (Apply 1st level power to 3 spells per day) = 2500 gp
Cloak of Resistance +5 = 12500
50 pp on sheet = 500 gp
64,492gp on sheet
Total = 98967 gp
You're welcome! :)
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You're really close, Vulcan. We have 24k in the party/summoning fund. I'd be happy to lend you the missing 3033 gp and you make it up later with your share of future treasure. Enjoy the cloak! It's a great item but giving up +5 on saves is brutal!
Now, GM, how long did it take to make?
Thanks Friar! You're awesome. Was asleep since I work overnight and sleep during the day.
I know I take a huge hit on saves, but up to 80% of my spells can at some point be extended/empowered which is huge as well as the elemental resistances.
32798 gp
Scroll of Resurrection – 12,275
20,523 gp
3x Scroll of Death Ward - 500
19,023 gp
Work in progress...
TWTW, when Bublaka leveled up to 17th, he had the option of swapping out a spell but I couldn't decide on one to grab, so I did not take that option. Would I be able to do that retroactively, by chance?
Yeah, go for it Bublaka :)
Bub, DW (as a 4th level cleric spell) scrolls cost 700 gp each. Was there a deal 3 for 1500 that I missed? :)
Just bad math on my part.
Scroll of Resurrection
3 Scrolls of Death Ward
19023 less 600 (correction) 18423 gp
Bublaka: I mentioned it in this discussion thread along with giving you links to the magic items from Dragon Magazine. The details aren't really important you just have some historical knowledge about the Eye (much like the phylactery). You don't get the impression that it would be any easier to recover than the phylactery and possibly even more difficult if it has a current owner.
Aha! Thanks!
Vug scribes even more formulae:
Absorb Toxicity (lvl 3)
Arcane Sight (lvl 3)
Gaseous Form (lvl 3)
Remove Blindness/Deafness (lvl 3)
Remove Disease (lvl 3)
Death Ward (lvl 4)
Delayed Consumption (lvl 5)
She also buys enough spell components to cast Universal Formula 8 times.
Total cost: 5*60 + 240 + 375 + 8*100 = 1715
Seriously considering a ring of evasion, but can't afford it and the scroll of Resurrection. Thoughts/suggestions?