
Shadowlightbringer |

For the record, Kelgeah, as I've read the gestalt rules, you don't have to use them if you don't want to - and you'll gain experience faster than those of us who do for doing so.
Exactly, especially if Gestalt does not appeal to you or you character concept.
I am still kind of tossing ideas around myself.

Kelgeah |

Hmmm. I dunno, having that XP advantage will diminish pretty quickly, I think. And having the best combo of basic stats plus all the class features of two classes seems like it pretty much trumps faster leveling. If everyone's interested in gestalt, then I have no problem keeping up; I've just never done it before, as it carries lots of pitfalls to consider.
Actually, one thing caught my eye: wildblooded sorcerer, empyreal bloodline. Uses WIS, supplements heals, has a little alignment detector thrown in for good measure, and would still lead into mystic theurge, albeit one level later--assuming I'm inclined at that point.
I decided against inquisitor because it really gives me nothing but teamwork feats and judgements. It's otherwise just a little extra cleric-ness.
Magus though? Hmmm. Most of his tricks rely on a melee attack, but I think the whip rules state it makes ranged attacks, despite being a melee weapon. Haven't read in depth yet, but I wonder if that might cause rules questions later; I like to avoid provoking those when I can since it slows down the game.

Talon Neverion |

If you want to try a 3 class gestalt, that's fine with me.
When we're done with the Crow for the day, can we get an annotated list of loot and XP received, Ninja? Also, refresh my memory, but did Lady Heidmarch ever give the party the ioun stone necessary for the shard of greed?

Talon Neverion |

I'll assume that Talon has just had it pocketed so it didn't get snatched by the thieves they were facing. What kind of Ioun Stone was it again? In case anyone wants to use it. Same with the Shard of Pride - if anyone wants their character to hold onto it for the +2 Int bonus and the other abilities, Talon will entrust it to you.

Delkaneth Sargan |

an Int bonus is never a bad thing for the skill monkey, so Delkaneth can take it....unless anyone gestalts with an Int-based caster class then of course it's yours.
I just went back and reread the paradox box encounter. This is a heck of a lot more letters than CRUEL !

Delkaneth Sargan |

Ah, what a great RP moment for an impulsive character to blurt out the solution and open the doors before the group is ready.
Unfortunately that character's player sucks at word puzzles so no chance of that. Or fortunate depending on your point of view.

Kelgeah |

Ran into some internet AND health issues over the weekend; sorry for the absence. Need to wait till after tomorrow to see if either or both problems will be recurring; I'll do my best to check in, but I probably shouldn't volunteer for treasurer or such until I'm certain things are settled.

Kelgeah |

Doing better; still getting rid of the BLECH stuff, but major symptoms gone, so I should be back to normal in another day or two. Unfortunately, internet access may get spotty in the near future thanks to a very rash and inconsiderate decision from a roommate. Means things may be a bit more hassle than I'm used to, but I'll find a workaround.

Delkaneth Sargan |

you know, I really should be working.......but:
- Hand-copied mural from room 5 (with donkeyrat corpse)
Loot from 2 tower girls in room w demon-head fountain
- amphora worth 35 gp, also holds 486 gp worth of ancient Thassilonian coins (98 coins in all)
- bronze statuette depicting a rune giant in full battle regalia worth 300 gp.
Big Tower girl fight
- smokestick
- tanglefoot bags (5)
- studded leather
- hand crossbow with 10 bolts
- short sword
- climber’s kit (2)
- grappling hook with 50-foot silk rope (2)
- hooded lantern and oil
- second-story harness (2) (3lbs, cost 55gp)
- thieves’ tools
- 15 gp
- bloodroot (2)
- masterwork studded leather
- +1 bladed scarf
- masterwork composite shortbow with 20 arrows
- masterwork thieves’ tools
all treasures the Tower Girls have scavenged from the Crow (room B23)
- Jewelry, coins, etc worth 900 gp in all
- Ayala’s journal? (history, plans for the Tower Girls)
- 87 gp
- 175 sp.
About 1,824 in just coins/jewels/art, then the sale of the gear on top of that. Lots of cool rogueish stuff Del would like of course, but very little he'd want enough to ask to keep: he already has MW armor and tools, he carries a bow but hasn't used it yet. The second-story harness sounds cool (if a little situational) so would probably be the only item he'd specifically call out.

Talon Neverion |

Thanks Del! That's a really big help - he can certainly have the second-story harness if he wants. I'd suggest investing in a wand of CLW with our funds to start, before splitting it individually - so that would 750gp subtracted from 1824 for 1124 - that's 281gp for each member, before we add in the sale of all the gear.

Talon Neverion |

Sadly, Talon doesn't have enough to buy his Masterwork Two-bladed Sword yet, and not enough time to try and finish the one he started. Unless you rule that he can make a check to finish it before then. In which case:
Craft (weapons); MW tools: 1d20 + 7 + 2 ⇒ (12) + 7 + 2 = 21
That would just make the DC!

Talon Neverion |

I'll have him pay for the retry's materials, then (50% or the original, 146.5gp total) and he'll have his shiny, MW Silvered Two-Bladed Sword.
And updating him for the gestalt, so any time everyone's ready.
Kelgeah, from a character POV, would she possibly meet the group coming with Talon? :P

Delkaneth Sargan |

wand makes a lot of sense - and unless Kelgeah hides it Del can also grab it and use it in a pinch. But knowing her, she'll hide it on purpose and make the poor boy frisk her to find it.......
No other gear for Del at the moment, going to start saving up for cooler toys down the line.

Kelgeah |

I'm not sure I understand your question, Talon. It might be the punctuation, but I'm not certain if you're asking if she'd meet a certain group while walking with him? Or, a group that's coming with him? Can't figure out your real thought there.
As for Del's comment, well...by all means, give me some ideas...
Wait. Gestalt? Are we doing that now? I thought that was later. Might be mixed up with all the mental checklists I've got lately...

Kelgeah |

Apologies in advance if I hold up the game. My monitor at home just went splat (not literally, just quit working) and college decided to ramp up the workload a bit while I search for a job at the same time. All sorts of fun.
Also need to get my gestalt figured out, I suppose. Will do that as soon as I have another opportunity; hopefully before tomorrow rears it head.

Shadowlightbringer |

I am going with Artisan which is basically a different approach to the Artificer. I am still trying to decided what is my craft specialty, I was thinking of mechanical because of traps, mechanical devices, and other things. This does not mean I can not craft other magical items or use them, it just means mechanical devices are my specialty. I would say, I am about 30%+ completed.

Shadowlightbringer |

I have an item creation feat available, since we are team, do you all prefer I take brew potion, scroll, or wondrous items? As for me, my first choice is wondrous items and second is potions for healing potions and etc. A ninja/PFS member would find both item creation feats useful.
Wands are not until 5th.

Talon Neverion |

Potions are probably a better bet, but if you think that we can spare the gold, Wondrous Items would get us those nifty little lower cost items even more cheaply - cloaks of resistance, pearls of power, and most important of all, bags of holding. You can never have too many of those.

Shadowlightbringer |

Cool! I am in Pittsburgh as well, we are renting a place near the 31st Street Bridge in Little Italy. My father grew up in New Castle, and we still have family here in Pittsburgh, Slippery Rock, and an Uncle who lives closer to Jersey but I do not remember where off hand. He lives in Pennsylvania but works in Jersey. Both of us are heavy into railroading.
~Anderlorn