The Loom of Fate - House Caedmon (Inactive)

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This thread is open so that the players can meet each other, even if your characters haven't met. I will open up the gameplay thread shortly. The official overarching plot starts on the 10th of November, so it should give us some ample time for introductions to get going.


Male Human Cleric

Greetings Fellows!! Someone has to start this off so it might as well be me. So introductions all around.

As a player I have been playing tabletop for more than 10 years as a player and over the last couple years as a DM/GM. I work in a tech field so I am pretty much able to post anytime during work hours (which are almost parallel to bank hours).

As a character - Well if you want to know about Ethan you can just ask him, or read his back story. High lights are he's new to his divine talent despite his age.


Male Human Ranger 1

Holas as well! I've been playing since 3.5 and have been just a DM for the last 5 years. Really glad I get play finally lol. As for posting, I work at a pizza hut in the evenings and attend tech school in the mornings so in-between those, after work, and updating my RotR campaign I'm running, I'll be able to post.


RETIRED Human Cryptic (Lost Mind) 1

Checking in. I'll post a bit more about myself after work today.


Male Human Cleric

I see lots of humans so far. That will make night travel interesting. It has been so long since I wasn't part of Team Darkvision, I almost forgot to buy torches.


Hello everyone! I generally post most in the mornings and evenings, eastern standard time.


HP: 12/12, AC: 21/14/19, SV: 4/2/0, INIT: +2, CMB: +3, CMD: 16, ATT: Greatsword +5 (1d10+7) -OR- Longbow +4 (1d6), Perception: +0

Greetings!

I am a 2nd year medical student in the Caribbean. I am right in the middle of midterms right now, three down, two more to go. Test time is extremely unpleasant for me as every test has everything riding on it - there are no make-up tests in medical school.

I've been playing for 35 years although I usually DM. Despite all of the many years, I am sometimes a bit rules weak and so ask for advice. I don't let myself get dragged down by the 'fiddly bits' and simply try to play and have fun.

I am in five or so other games here on the boards. I'm primarily a role player and like to play strange characters. I was drawn to the multi-game aspect of this campaign and so am looking forward to it.

A note on Brie and Gabby:

It is up to you as to whether you read their character packet or not. There are definitely some elements to them that you will probably want to find out in character. I'm just going to drop some of the obvious stuff here.

Gabby and Brie are twin human girls, about twelve years old. They always dress alike, usually in a black top with a skirt, torn up red striped tights (one leg is missing), and black boots. The pair always wear headbands, sometimes cat ears, sometimes devil horns, depending on their mood.

Those with moderate perception will notice that there are flaws with their human-ness in bright light. For one thing, their eyes are a bit too big and their ears slightly pointed. Long study will show that the two are probably halflings disguising themselves as human children. Even more study reveals the fallacy of this belief however. First, both have fine scales covering part of their bodies such as their stomachs, backs, thighs, calves, upper arms etc. There are no scales on their faces or hands. Secondly, both girls sometimes forget to keep their tails tucked up and Brie especially sometimes let's her's trail along behind her. Lastly, and this is very difficult to notice, but the horns on their headbands are not part of the headbands and actually tuck into the cat ears when they wear those.

I will post as whichever one is with the party at any given time. They have very busy lives between them and so one usually comes to work with you while the other takes care of their personal business in The Shadows.

I look forward to role playing with you all!


I can understand that feeling. Here, we have "prelims", which are like midterms, except we have twice as many of them, and they're no less stressful!


Gameplay is up!

For Brie, she should have arrived in the tavern at some time before the recruiter, but aside from that, the manner of spending time there before the gameplay begins is up to you.


Male Human Ranger 1

So wait... Are you playing two characters? I'm confused here lol


M Humanborn

i've been playing dnd for 8 years, starting with 3.0/3.5, working my way back to AD&D and then forward to PF. I live in Hawaii and generally post once early morning (unless i wake up late) and then several times per day after work.


HP: 12/12, AC: 21/14/19, SV: 4/2/0, INIT: +2, CMB: +3, CMD: 16, ATT: Greatsword +5 (1d10+7) -OR- Longbow +4 (1d6), Perception: +0
Karson Kolinder wrote:
So wait... Are you playing two characters? I'm confused here lol

Not meaning to be smart or anything, but it is supposed to be confusing. Yes, I'm playing two characters, but only one at a time.


Male Human Ranger 1

Ah... Well okay then lol


Male Human Ranger 1

Okay, so just out of curiosity, is this something I should expect outside of combat, the same few people posting on top of each other while everyone else kinda just gets, well... "Voluntold" to follow the leader, to put it nicely?


Male Human Cleric

I don't think so. Out side of combat, for the most part, there is not rush to post so we can wait for everyone to have a say.

Thus far I don't feel anyone has been voluntold to do anything yet as no one has really taken action yet. Those of us that post more often have simply looked for options and asked/offered advice thus far.

Am I missing something?


Karson Kolinder wrote:
Okay, so just out of curiosity, is this something I should expect outside of combat, the same few people posting on top of each other while everyone else kinda just gets, well... "Voluntold" to follow the leader, to put it nicely?

I will not rush the game forward even if there are many posts, to make sure that everyone gets a chance to respond. But if the party members are talking to each other and exploring options quickly, then I will typically also respond to those quickly, since they give ideas to the entire party.

Thank you for bringing this up though, so I can keep it in my mind. I'm still learning this PbP GMing thing; much different from tabletop games, that's for sure.


Male Human Ranger 1

I know it's only the first day of getting this started, but I'm just pointing out what I've seen. Not naming anyone out, but after looking at it so far, it seems like one person has been able to post if not right after, then within 2 posts after everyone else, and then another almost equal to that. I figure address it now while we still have the chance, cause I have the feeling that unless a posting scheduling allowance of some sort is agreed to, then a few of us are pretty much going to be just combat characters who will end up posting outside of combat only if and when they have an actual chance and reasonable opportunity to post, which I'll honestly just back out of. If I wanted just combat, I would've found a 4ED game lol.

PbP is much different from tabletop, that's for sure Jen. With as much freedom that we get here as players, it makes it that more difficult for a GM to efficiently run it. However, just like tabletop, you still have to try and keep an order, otherwise issues like this will pop up, and you end up getting players who will feel like they're left out and only there for combat purposes only. As much as it sucks for some people, allowing whoever has their free time available to post more often than others will start to create this effect because others don't even get close to that amount of time. Which means that unless you state as a GM "Hey, only post this amount until everyone catches up", you're going to have to somehow deal with either one or two players on a consistent basis telling them to slow down while attempting to force others to post more than they actually can or trying something else to please them since they can't post anywhere near the amount the other two players are posting.


RETIRED Human Cryptic (Lost Mind) 1

that is a good point.

at our current scene, i think the "everyone trying to be a leader" thing is pretty indicative of how chaotic it would be to be trapped in a soon-to-be-burning building with a bunch of PCs and NPCs.

"Do this!"
"huh?"
"no do this!"
*does nothing*
*all burn to death except the one PC with fire resistance*


Male Human Ranger 1

I knew I should've gotten some kind of fire resistance lol


**WIP** | Forgeborn | Male Form Adult
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The other thing to think about is that we are not officially a group yet and we do not have any leaders so everyone is going to be shouting out things. And actually it being so chaotic is great!


Male Human Ranger 1

Chaotic can be fun, except when someone posts, goes on through their day, then comes back to see a full new page occur. That's what I'm talking about. I have early morning class for 6 hours, get home, and have between 3-4 hours to get ready for work, spend time with my fiancé, clean around the house, and every other life duty, and then use extra time I get to run my PbP game, and now post here. Then after I get off work, I have more time to post. But that depends on when I get off work to begin with. If I only get the chance to post once, maybe twice in a day, then coming back the next to find a full page plus makes me go "what the hell happened?" So instead of posting, I now have to spend the time I could've used posting to sort through everything and figure out what exactly is going on, and if it ends up taking me too long to try and sort out, well then I don't get to post because I gotta get other things done. So the next time I get to post, I then have to reread the mass confusion so I don't get lost, on top of everything else that was posted and added to the chaos. Which is exactly why I'm addressing this now before it gets to bad.


M Humanborn

Yeah but limiting posts like that can lead to a dead game. Everyone posts once, some only with questions. It them takes 3 days to get through one person's turn. A month for one combat. Momentum of posts is usually a pretty important thing in Pbp.

I have several games that are essentially on life support after a lull months ago.


Male Human Ranger 1

I think you completely missed what I said Tenro...


M Humanborn

Perhaps. The only game on here I have quit was due to me logging on to see 400 new posts in 8 hours. I know how it feels to have no time to catch up on posts.

I'm just saying I'd rather see 20 new posts each day than none.


Male Human Ranger 1

Okay, so I just totaled it up so you can see what I'm talking about here...
16,14,8,7,5,4,3,3
That's the amount of posts per person out of 60 posts as of now. And no, Jen hasn't posted 16 times. And this is only what... Not even a full two days? I get what you're saying Tenro, but if numbers were to be allowed to stay like this, I'd be leaving this game in about 3 days. It's nice to have an active game and thread, there's nothing wrong with that. But when one person, who isn't even the GM, posts not just more than the rest of the group, but almost 30% of all the posts, I'm sorry but that's just not an active group, that to me is someone trying to force everyone else to be post more than they can, and I post on my time. Not because one person has posted 20 something times between my opportunities to post, forcing me to catch up.


I do like an active game, but I also want to make sure that everyone has a chance to participate. I think a big part of it just happens to be that this is a non-combat action event, which makes it hard to judge post frequency (some people like shorter posts with conversations or responses, for example).

I would like to finish with this situation and then look at it again, so we have a better idea on the typical posting rates and can see from there.

Edit: I may know of which game you're talking about, Tenro, because I played there for a while as well :D


**WIP** | Forgeborn | Male Form Adult
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Then should we come up with a max posting per day? Since I work in IT and I am currently on call (meaning I have to be close to a computer all weekend and Monday), I have more time to post.


M Humanborn

it was the Agartha game. Interesting, but just moved waaaaay too fast for me.

As for my posting, you may notice during weekdays it comes in bursts. While i am at work i do not have access to outside internet of any sort, but when i get home i have a few hours to post in a rapid-fire manner if a character of mine is having a conversation or i am having one in the discussion thread.

on weekends, i generally post all day because those are my days off and i sit at my computer most days or play from my phone.


HP: 12/12, AC: 21/14/19, SV: 4/2/0, INIT: +2, CMB: +3, CMD: 16, ATT: Greatsword +5 (1d10+7) -OR- Longbow +4 (1d6), Perception: +0

I don't like the idea of limiting posts. Post as often as you like as far as I am concerned.

No one can have done something until Jen recognizes it as having happened. If you are doing something, wait for Jen to recognize it before doing something else. Talk as much as you like, but you only know what happens in front of you.

The only problem then really becomes the "I'm here" then "No, I'm over here" and "Now I'm over here too" syndrome, but that happens in table top as well.

I'm happy with everything personally. I absolutely do not recommend limiting posts - more is better than less in all cases of which I am aware. I post once a day, slowly, and yet do not feel run over. I'll get my moment, of that I'm sure.


HP: 12/12, AC: 21/14/19, SV: 4/2/0, INIT: +2, CMB: +3, CMD: 16, ATT: Greatsword +5 (1d10+7) -OR- Longbow +4 (1d6), Perception: +0

The bar is burning down, everyone is trying to save themselves, and the halfling is slipping behind the bar to look for valuables? What's up with that?

The person playing the thief character only ever seems to think about lifting loose change and I always thought that was terribly unrealistic. So why is Brie doing it now?

I thought I'd answer before someone asks.

Brie figures big folk are better for running around solving big folk problems. She also figures that big folk problems are perfect opportunities for little folk gain.

I don't want anyone to think I'm not playing seriously. Brie knows that the building is on fire but is not really worried yet. As of right now, she's confident she can leave whenever she wants, but that it would be a shame to leave all this money behind.


RETIRED Human Cryptic (Lost Mind) 1

nice! I have Eran trying to escape, but honestly he is more afraid of the giant mob going berserk in fear than he is of the fire. That's why he is trying to get onto the next building before the mob finds out there is an escape hatch above.


I love the lack of communication. It's a big part of the fun. :D


I'm reading a lot of hostility in your words, Karson, and if that is not the case then please forgive me.. We all have different schedules, we all have lives and work and sleep.

However, I think it is not very nice of you to essentially single someone out and threaten to leave if you don't get your way. If you have a problem with something specific, please say so. Good communication can help a lot.

Some people are going to post on a schedule that is not optimal for you. Play by post is chaotic. I'm sure there is a compromise we can all reach as a party, and as a group of people.


**WIP** | Forgeborn | Male Form Adult
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Jen the GM wrote:
I love the lack of communication. It's a big part of the fun. :D

And real life too! :-)


Male Human Ranger 1

I'm not meaning to be hostile here. I try my best to be concise, and it just comes off like I'm an ass at times lol. I'm just trying to make a point clear now, so that it doesn't become a problem later. As of those numbers earlier, with as many posts as I made (which were on the low end), I would've just said screw it, I wanna be a part of this too. Only reason I didn't is cause I have enough common sense to know that we're just starting so there's plenty of time for us to get settled in. However, just starting out or not, one person in those first 60 posts not only posted more than Jen, but more than 4 people had posted in total at that point. It's that point there where anyone looking in on this without common sense sees either "Somebody is trying to force the posting" or "Wow, why did I even want to play this, when it's obviously just one guy doing all the posting..." And in the end, the rest of the people just start to not care and the game goes south period. It's the same thing that happens on other RP forums. People get in their little clicks, and then the entire site is all about them, and anyone new just gets forgotten and not even cared about. And that's what I don't want for this game. I wanna be able to not enjoy it myself, but for all of us as a group to enjoy it as well. And if it's only just one person doing all the posting (yes, talk is free actions, but if someone misses and entire conversation, well then they get screwed on any questions they want to ask that actually could've helped out on what ever they were trying to accomplish), well then what's the point for the rest of us? Does any of this not make sense or does it seem to me that this is a free for all, you're screwed if you can't post more than once a day kind of group?


RETIRED Human Cryptic (Lost Mind) 1

from what i have seen in other games, the initial few days are much higher in post count than that game ends up being. everyone is excited to show off their new characters, introduce everyone to the idea they have created, show off what they can do, etc.

perhaps it would be best to "ride the wave" until it calms and see how you feel then. but that is just my opinion.


Male Human Ranger 1

I know Eran, I'm waiting to see what happens, but I had to point out what I saw happening, and just wanted to make sure that it was brought up as a "Hey, just so this doesn't keep happening" that ends up killing it for some of us.


Male Human Ranger 1

Umm... Question Jerex... How did I fall through the hole, when it was only Eran that went up, and how exactly are we both all the sudden in the place that the back doors couldn't get to? Please explain, especially when I made no attempt to get to the top of the roof...


RETIRED Human Cryptic (Lost Mind) 1

I think Jerex was confused because you rolled reflex to avoid falling debris (i admit that i was as well, i just chose not to say anything about it as maybe i missed what debris was falling on you).

i think he was just saying that you weren't where the falling debris is.


The debris was from earlier when you were clearing out the straw roof, but it was only straw. :D


**WIP** | Forgeborn | Male Form Adult
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Yes Eran is correct, I thought your debris reflex save was for Eran's calamity and not our handy work on the Tavern's roof which would be none life threatening. At least, not yet ... LOL


Male Human Ranger 1

Yea, I was under him and saw that the roof started coming down, so I figured I'd roll something just to make sure, just in case. Needless to say nothing hit me anyways I believe with a roll like that, but I figured I'd make sure anyways.


**WIP** | Forgeborn | Male Form Adult
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Eran, I would imagine she would follow us after all of us came stomping through her house, jumped on her roof, smelled smoke, and etc.


RETIRED Human Cryptic (Lost Mind) 1

Yeah, but maybe she was hysterical and not thinking straight


The house collapsed. :o


**WIP** | Forgeborn | Male Form Adult
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Of course, GM's call ... lol


I think I mentioned that the shack collapsed when Eran jumped on the roof, but maybe in the chaos of the situation, it was not so clear. :D


**WIP** | Forgeborn | Male Form Adult
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Oops, my bust, I had to reread it to see it. Can they be recovered from the shack debris?


RETIRED Human Cryptic (Lost Mind) 1

Ah I thought it was a partial collapse amd their screams meant they were still alive


Male Human Cleric

Really fighting the urge to 'over post'. . .

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