The Ironfang Invasion: Fangs of War

Game Master vayelan

There are 133 platinum pieces on Undari’s body right now. As he is the one being raised, I think he should pay the full amount from his available funds.

As far as rolling, I would prefer the DM roll all the things on his preferred table—race, gender, ethnicity, etc. that way, Undari comes back not knowing any of this and has to learn it the hard way—or perhaps with a mirror.

…Any afterlife interactions needed? I can make up something generic, but Old Deadeye might have a few words sent Undari’s way while he is dead that could be interesting for our current effort (or at least make a good story).

—For what it’s worth, I am also good with the DM choosing all the reincarnation variables for story reasons, if that is preferable.

— One other question: With the Dual Talent human having fungible ability score adjustments, what is the best way to refigure Undari’s stats?

Good question. Also, uh, what's our current party wealth situation?

I keep putting off updating and/or overhauling the loot spreadsheet, probably because I dread the possibility of scouring through old gameplay posts to make sure I'm not cheating you guys out of any rewards.

There are 133 platinum pieces on Undari’s body right now. As he is the one being raised, I think he should pay the full amount from his available funds.

As far as rolling, I would prefer the DM roll all the things on his preferred table—race, gender, ethnicity, etc. that way, Undari comes back not knowing any of this and has to learn it the hard way—or perhaps with a mirror.

…Any afterlife interactions needed? I can make up something generic, but Old Deadeye might have a few words sent Undari’s way while he is dead that could be interesting for our current effort (or at least make a good story).

—For what it’s worth, I am also good with the DM choosing all the reincarnation variables for story reasons, if that is preferable.

— One other question: With the Dual Talent human having fungible ability score adjustments, what is the best way to refigure Undari’s stats?

Okay, I will take care of the rolls. I'm going to enjoy this.

I had not considered including afterlife interactions, but I find the idea intriguing. I think Undari may have a brief interaction with one of Erastil's horned archon servitors, rather than Old Deadeye himself.

As for the Dual Talent question, let me first roll out the details. If we end up with a new human body, we may not have to change much at all.

Most of our loot would be in the form of weapons, armor, and other gear so would the hunters accept those as payment?

I used my home gaming group's Discord server as a mirror to roll the dice for the reincarnation.
I may have made them nervous with the seemingly random dicebot rolls.

Anyhow, Undari's new body has been determined. Stay tuned to find out...

Can’t wait to find out!

How shall we handle the reveal? Does Undari look for a mirror or reflective surface?

Should I send PMs to the rest of the party, describing the new Undari they see walking out of the trees and down the hill?

Sorry, I am flashing back to Doctor Who regenerations...

--"Still not ginger"--

Probably more fun if Undari can't see the full picture just yet...

I sent private messages to the rest of the party, providing details on Undari's new body. I was waiting a bit to allow you guys to describe what you see for the reveal, but if you need me to get the ball rolling, I can give us a push.

Oh apologies, I didn't realize we were already at that point. I'll get a post up

Whoops, I thought I was waiting on you or Undari.

Ahhhh yes... Same here.

No worries. That's why I thought it might be a good idea to give a bump.

Yeah, I just posted that I walked out to you, but no message for me yet…

Is Undari’s new body clothed? Did he get any clues on his race from looking down at his body when he awoke?

Burton the druid provided a simple robe for the new body, while also keeping Undari's old gear nearby to be reclaimed.

Looking down, Undari would have seen that he was now in a female body with pale skin and waifish proportions. Also, upon standing up, Undari realizes that his new body is a few inches taller than the old one.

Daria heads off to pray as the others prepare, but I have a question about spells.

As far as I can tell, she gets all her spell slots, but with a caster level 2 down she may not be able to fill her 5th level slots with 5th level spells as she no longer has the caster level needed to cast level 5 spells, right? Should I just prepare lower level spells in the 5th level slots?

An hour and an Any Haul later, Daria is ready to go.

The creature is also treated as one level lower for the purpose of level-dependent variables (such as spellcasting) for each negative level possessed. Spellcasters do not lose any prepared spells or slots as a result of negative levels.

You don't lose any spells from negative levels, so you can still prep 5th-level spells despite having a caster level below the usual minimum. I think in 3.5 you actually did lose levels, while in PF1e you have an effective penalty but are still a 9th-level character.

That said, we should get a restoration to remove one of those negative levels before we go anywhere.

Yes, my understanding of the rules' wording matches Esperanza's summary.

Posting this in all my games. I'm going to be traveling from June 8th through June 12th. I'll do my best to keep up in my free time, but don't let me hold you up.

It occurs to me that in my haste to push to narrative forward I am running a bit roughshod over the negative level. Esperanza is right that we should probably resolve that before seeking out more combat.

It occurs to me that in my haste to push to narrative forward I am running a bit roughshod over the negative level. Esperanza is right that we should probably resolve that before seeking out more combat.

In Longshadow, there are a few places where you might acquire either a spell, scroll, or potion of Restoration: Forager's Alchemicals and Emporium, Rutra's Trading Post, Dominick's Reagents and Poultices, or the Redcliff Schoolhouse, whose headmaster is a wizard.

While exploring these methods, you could also use a day to make skill checks to prepare Longshadow's defenses.

I'm back! Let's get ourselves squared away and then go fight some (hob)gobbos.

Let's do it!

Hey everyone, my spouse and I will be leaving for vacation on Friday and won't be back until the following weekend. My posting rate is likely to be low during that time.

Sorry my posting is going to be a bit sporadic as Im recovering from a cold.

Do you want Lily to lead us in a sneaky approach or would you rather we post something to push things forward?

Do you want Lily to lead us in a sneaky approach or would you rather we post something to push things forward?

I was going to finish posting but lets push forward. Seperating the party in an attempt to conduct subterfuge is a huge risk.

Hey Lily, I just noticed your profile is still all level 7 stuff. Have you updated it for level 9 yet?

Thorek will also approach the wall until he's close enough to charge in, so if they have other spells to cast I suppose they'll have the time

They'll need them!

This is meant as an observation rather than a complaint or criticism, but this is definitely my most technical and detail-oriented campaign.
Truly deserving of the moniker "Mathfinder."

I have found that Pathfinder, especially with well-built characters and foes, can be quite complicated. I ran WOTR for an in-person game, and that added another layer of math and craziness as the Mythic stuff really took hold. It was manageable, but just barely, in person. I don't think I'd try that online.

I play about half Pathfinder 1.0 and half DnD 5.0. Right now, DnD 5.0 is quite a bit more streamlined and simple, but that is changing as they put out ever more content and the rules set expands. I enjoy them both in their own ways, especially as we work together as a group to overcome obstacles.

Besides the Pathfinder 1.0 games I run here on the forums, I also run D&D 5.0 and Star Wars (FFG) games for friends on Discord. They are all quite different experiences, and I like how it keeps me from getting burned out by sticking to a single system.

Very cool. I play on the DnDBeyond site, but several of the games have chats set up in Discord, as we have been burned several times by the DnDBeyond site not sending notifications for days...

I have played a bit of 5e and it didn’t dazzle me, it felt very repetitive and combats were super samey. I am really enjoying Pathfinder 2e, though it’s a different style from 1e where builds can be so very powerful.

For a couple of years now I’ve had a strong interest in trying out some other RPGs (Blades in the Dark, Stars Without Number, Coyote & Crow, etc etc) but smaller games like that are hard to find players for.

I love Star Wars FFG but it's hard to find folks to play it with. I've been running a PF2e game for CW and some of our friends for the past couple years. I really like PF2e, especially now that it's had a few years of additional content, though Esperanza is such a specific character mechanically that I would have a hard time replicating her.

Yeah I know... I wish something approximating the mesmerist enters 2e though Lily is really taking advantage of her one level of swashbuckler right now.

Yes to the 15ft elevation question, GM

So...it's time for me to potentially cheese the rules a little, at least in the name of providing a challenge.
The troop is about to use it's Volley special ability, described thusly (as copied, word for word, from the unit description from d20pfsrd:

Because the troop stat blocks don't include descriptions of gear or equipment, it makes no mention of the troop having to currently be wielding bows to use this ability. So, RAW I interpret this to mean that with just a standard action the troop can fire its volley without needing to use a move action to draw bows (which, again, aren't even listed as equipment in the stat block). While this is quite cheesy, especially on top of the fact that no attack rolls are needed, I am inclined to chalk it up to the inherent danger of taking on several dozen highly trained Ironfang soldiers all at once.

That being said, if Thorek and Esperanza have any bonuses to their Reflex Saves that aren't included in their profile stat line, please let me know.

For what it's worth, I don't think it's cheesy at all, I think it represents the versatility of an elite combat squad. Troops don't have to follow the same rules as individuals. I also happen to think that your interpretation is both RAW & RAI for the volley ability.

No special bonuses from me. At 14th level I'll have evasion, but we're quite a ways off from that.

Uh, well, if they can do 16d6 damage per round as a standard action, plus the automatic troop damage, then we definitely need to withdraw before they kill us in the next round or two.

This is a bit of OOC knowledge because I've used many a troop in my own games, but their ranged attacks are almost always 1+ lines that each do a smaller amount of damage. We only took that much because Thorek and Esperanza happen to be standing very conveniently for them; if we split up we should be able to avoid taking that much damage again.

Thank you for the healing! I was in trouble for a bit there.

Heads up for everyone: I'm going to traveling from the 23rd through August 6th. A lot of that is going to be me very bored while I ride in a car, so I'll probably still get some posts in.

A 30 would hit Thorek, yes. ouch!

Imagine getting hit by an attack roll of 30.

-This post brought to you by AC 31 gang

AC29 vs things that aren't goblinoids or aberrations, alas

According to you, you're at 30 exactly.

Oh, I see where I went wrong, Daria's CL means the Ironskin bonus is higher than the baseline +4.

So AC23 base, +5 natural (Ironskin), +2 deflection (Shield of Faith, doesn't stack with Ring of Protection)

So yes AC30 is correct, or 32 vs the aforementioned creature types