| David.De'Foul |
Ace can't fly really, so you're flying was kinda running away. And hey, using an anti-magic field vs a powerful caster is smart tactics.
I would seriously hope you would consider similar defenses vs your lich nemesis. Otherwise, poor Dave might end up as liquid diamond goo. Which, is not to be confused with blue dragon goo :p
Also
1) if you can cast 7th level spells, you can cast 3rd level spells, and you can fight at range2) even with the antimagic Dave was whittling away your HP with mind bolts
He was still fighting, you ran away.
3) the litch's response to antimagic would be mage's disjunction and/or, punching them in the face and/or prismatic sphere
We'll just have to see what we can do to fix that. :P
You'll have to be the one doing the fixing, Dave doesn't see it as a problem.
You're precious to him, so he doesn't want you hurtYou don't like being hurt or hurting others,
To him wanting you outside of the fight is simple logic
| "Ace" |
You do realize I have crazy amounts of healing, right?
However, this wasn't a debate about which of our PCs could actually win in a fight.
You made a comment about people who don't like each other trying to fight it out, and when I did exactly that, you didn't actually fight him face to face, toe to toe.
The whole reason I cast Anti-Magic was to make you come and punch, kick, headbutt, etc the crap outta me while I did the same to you, but you flew away.
Thus my calling you out.
I'm not upset about it in or out of game, but to me it seems like you honestly wanted no part of an actual brawl with me, despite now claiming you find such to be a good way to work out differences.
| David.De'Foul |
To my knowledge you couldn't use your healing without dropping your antimagic, which would be when I would close in for melee with you
Sword/sword/sword/claw/wing/wing all of which while wrapped in flame
Antimagic doesn't feel right to spellcasters, it gives them headaches. (Plus the whole being useless inside it)
I thought I told you this when we were to fight
| "Ace" |
David can only hit Ace on a natural 20, and my AC is that high without resorting to any effect negated by an anti-magic field.
Meanwhile, Ace can pretty much always hit David ...
That being said, we are both right, in our respective comments. Best to just let this drop before either of us agitates the other.
| lynora |
Just as a heads up, next week Tuesday through Friday I will be on a family vacation. We're going to Great Wolf Lodge, which should be fun. (This is what we're doing for the kidlet to make up for him missing his class trip.) But I don't know if they have wifi available so I may be limited to posting from my phone when I get the chance. So my posts may be a bit shorter than usual. :)
Lucas Svarog
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Oil and bovine secretion?
I'll pass thank you.
I do find the coffee been dipped in dark chocolate and drizzled with oils to be a fine snack though.
I'd eat a whole bowl of them
| lynora |
Personal tastes aside, would water based coffee hurt a firebird?
Yes, for two reasons. First of all, water. Firebird coffee is made with oil. Second, caffeine is like alcohol for firebirds. So that could be a problem. Tami didn't know Archena was a firebird when she asked the question or she would have known better.
Lucas Svarog
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Archena Surya wrote:Personal tastes aside, would water based coffee hurt a firebird?Yes, for two reasons. First of all, water. Firebird coffee is made with oil. Second, caffeine is like alcohol for firebirds. So that could be a problem. Tami didn't know Archena was a firebird when she asked the question or she would have known better.
oh wow, so Lucas's habit of simply eating the beans...
| FireclawDrake |
A coffee bean eaten plain has roughly 30mg of caffeine. Compare to an espresso shot which has about 70-80mg. If a shot of espresso is analogous to a shot of spirits, then Lucas is probably a caffeine addict.
Well, unless the blight druid still has venom immunity. Caffeine is a naturally occurring poison, and despite the name of the ability, venom immunity protects against all poisons, not just venom.
Lucas Svarog
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Nah, they give it up for disease immunity
His armor, however does grant it
| Vickory West |
What an intetesting debate, but considering most darkvision is monochrome and not commonly referred to as a color (since the use of the word color normally applies when multiple colors are visible) it makes me wonder why anyone would think fiends can see color without light.
| Vickory West |
See in darkness doesn't need to not work with light. Considering that there needs to be some mechanic for such a sense to actually work, the most likely and sensicak solution is that see in darkness works with frequencies so far from normal light that even spells normally don't affect that light range. Around 10 micrometers makes good sense as that is range in which air us nearly as transparent as normally visible light. 2-5 micrometers makes good sense for darkvision as there are a few ranges in there where not only can objects be seen as emitting light thus be visible, they are also peaks where air is less transparent, explaining the limited range. Since those ranges are closer to the "visible" spectrum, makes sense that darkness spells shift the light into deeper ranges, and more powerful spells can affect these darkvision ranges, and considering how PF describes darkness spells as making darkness (that darkvision can see in) followed by deeper darkness (that darkvision can't see in) kinda supports this view.
| icehawk333 |
See in darkness is usally an SU ability.
It's magic.
Also, it's acutslly been stated that the void exists in a state of lightlless color, and that the Voidwalker's don't need light to see.
They see colors, with no need for light-
They see the same spectrum of colors humans do. The reason she said everything was so bland is becuase the void is acutally and insanely colorful place, colors thrown everywhere with little order.
And see in darkness, unlike Darkvision, has no specifed range limit.
And I can't say the intent of the developers, but I know that when I made Voidwalkers, the impossiblity of seeing color without light was entirely intended.
She still sees that way, too- Voidwalkers never lose that ability.
| icehawk333 |
The void is a place where science doesn't work. At all.
The plane esists in a constant state of paradox. If you do the exact same thing, the exact same way...
You can get vastly different results. Logic doesn't work, becuase everything is inconsistent.
Even the inconsistency itself is inconsitsnt, as there are places and thigns that remain coniststant.
They see color without light becuase it is impossible.
| Vickory West |
Except that breaks the definition of color, without light it isn't color. No matter how chaotic or strange, something defined as X is X and is no longer X if it isn't X.
If 2+3 don't equal 5, it is because you didn't add 2+3.
Somethings are inherent in existance itself, such as definitions and math.
Besides, chaos is just order that isn't understood. :)
| icehawk333 |
See, that's the thing.
This is the realm of paradox.
Everything is self-conductory, and still works.
It's exactly the same as what we see... Without light.
Not sure why that's so hard to understand.
It's Supposed to be completely impossible, and be the case anyway.
And your last statement is just false in this case.
There is nothing to be understood. At all.
It is a dimention that by all rights, simply cannot exist, or function, yet does.
It, by it's nature, cannot be understood.
"Lightless color" is called that, as the objects are the same color they would be if they gave off light. And when voidwalkers see them, they are thst color, even without the presence of light.
| Vickory West |
It isn't a contradiction, a contradiction is a relationship between two things that have mutually exclusive (usually opposite) implications.
A definition can't be contradictory all by itself, as it isn't a relationship, it is a single concept independent of anything else.
The chaos comment was just a fun quote this reminded me of.
Working in ways that can't be defined doesn't change what a definition is.
Funny, your example of X is saying X is an undefined variable with no limits, which is exactly what X is anyway, as well as A and Y, etc. Since you didn't state any limits on X, there is no reason why X can't be any of those things, so that entire line is entirely logical and even rational as well. :D
| Vickory West |
Yeah, but light is light, that is an immutable fact. He can have it work however, but what Vickory knows still stands, at least in her mind, light is light and anything else is not light. He wants to change that, he can, but that doesn't mean Vickory knos what he is doing. As far as she is concerned, impossible things are just when people don't understand something or have incorrect information.
| lynora |
Yeah, but light is light, that is an immutable fact. He can have it work however, but what Vickory knows still stands, at least in her mind, light is light and anything else is not light. He wants to change that, he can, but that doesn't mean Vickory knos what he is doing. As far as she is concerned, impossible things are just when people don't understand something or have incorrect information.
Hon, your character's viewpoint is perfectly valid, and she can react however she reacts. But step out of character for a moment here. As a player you need to accept that the parameters of a game world are different than the parameters of our world. It doesn't even have to follow the definitions or facts that apply to our world. That's the beauty of things created in the imagination.
Also 2+3=6 for certain large values of 2. Math is not as absolute as people like to think it is. :)