| Death_Keeper |
Death_Keeper wrote:wish she had told me that, all she told me in regards to that is to not use limbs to pay people as it made her squeamishicehawk333 wrote:Lynn nerfed thatDragonborn3 wrote:Dave is inflation until people start looking for diamond/gold that rots at the same rate as normal flesh...It doesn't.
Normally, creatures with this template are from the elemental plane of earth.
So...And he counts for material components.
Its only a diamond like substance Edward, not true diamond is how she described it ( I think, and without the twilight reference )
| FireclawDrake |
Dragonborn3 wrote:If it doesn't rot then he probably shouldn't age.
But, seriously, guys, go make a thread to discuss this stuff. It' shota be annoying for Lyn to come back and see pages of stuff that could have been in another thread with a lot more people chipping in.
I listed something that needs to be discussed HERE.
This impacts THIS game so I'm keeping it here
Right: and you didn't like the outcome of that discussion (that DR and hardness were separate conceptually).
Now: there could be a corner case where something should apply, but doesn't in the rules.
PM someone if you don't want to reveal it, but the consensus here is that DR and hardness are conceptually separate things.
| David.De'Foul |
David.De'Foul wrote:Its only a diamond like substance Edward, not true diamond is how she described it ( I think, and without the twilight reference )Death_Keeper wrote:wish she had told me that, all she told me in regards to that is to not use limbs to pay people as it made her squeamishicehawk333 wrote:Lynn nerfed thatDragonborn3 wrote:Dave is inflation until people start looking for diamond/gold that rots at the same rate as normal flesh...It doesn't.
Normally, creatures with this template are from the elemental plane of earth.
So...And he counts for material components.
like I said, wish I had been told *grumble grumble*
Messes with what I have been doing for a while| Damiani |
Damiani wrote:Xbox or PCKobold Cleaver wrote:Besides, everyone knows it only takes 2-3 seconds to mine diamond. And that's with an iron pick!I'm getting my pickaxe fun on, /right/ now! Oh s+*&, not related to this game... ziiing!
PC. Xbox is for children that are too lazy to use keyboard, mice and an Xbox controller on a real man's rig!
Ziiiing again!
NOTE: Humor. Look, emoticons. :D :)
| Death_Keeper |
Death_Keeper wrote:Dragonborn3 wrote:If it doesn't rot then he probably shouldn't age.
But, seriously, guys, go make a thread to discuss this stuff. It' shota be annoying for Lyn to come back and see pages of stuff that could have been in another thread with a lot more people chipping in.
I listed something that needs to be discussed HERE.
This impacts THIS game so I'm keeping it here
Right: and you didn't like the outcome of that discussion (that DR and hardness were separate conceptually).
Now: there could be a corner case where something should apply, but doesn't in the rules.
PM someone if you don't want to reveal it, but the consensus here is that DR and hardness are conceptually separate things.
O.o there hadn't been a decision by the grand high hancho... just discussion.
And I agree, A Dr/ magic shouldn't be bypassed except by magic, but if I have a Dr 1/- from tough skin, why wont adamant cut through it?
This is also to help my pet project I'm trying to make to entertain all the combat min Max freaks
| Damiani |
O.o there hadn't been a decision by the grand high hancho... just discussion.
And I agree, A Dr/ magic shouldn't be bypassed except by magic, but if I have a Dr 1/- from tough skin, why wont adamant cut through it?
This is also to help my pet project I'm trying to make to entertain all the combat min Max freaks
See that /- following your DR 1?
That means nothing cuts through it. Welcome to the game rule design. Period, end of discussion.
:)
EDIT: Technically you /could/ cut through it, but all you do is reduce the damage (hence the term, Damage Reduction, or DR) by 1. :) Very simple premise.
| FireclawDrake |
Because DR is /not/ hard skin! Maybe that 1/- is the ability jto ignore pain, or the ability to slightly close small wounds, or a /myriad/ of other things that DR covers that are NOT related to the 'hardness' of said thing.
The /has/ been a consensus among /everyone/ but you to either: Let it go, or: follow the rules.
Seriously, it's like you don't read anything that other people saying.
At this point, you're beating a dead horse.
| Damiani |
Because DR is /not/ hard skin! Maybe that 1/- is the ability jto ignore pain, or the ability to slightly close small wounds, or a /myriad/ of other things that DR covers that are NOT related to the 'hardness' of said thing.
The /has/ been a consensus among /everyone/ but you to either: Let it go, or: follow the rules.
Seriously, it's like you don't read anything that other people saying.
At this point, you're beating a dead horse.
Well, he is 'Death Keeper' (of Horses?) Heh.
Just kidding on this post, honest. :) :D ;P
| FireclawDrake |
Alright, you wanna talk real world mechanics?
Hardness is also called /brittleness/. Diamonds are very hard, but also very brittle. This is the /scientific/ definition of hardness. This is why, for example,
Now.
Skin can be 'tough' without being 'hard': it can bend, it can absorb impact, it can heal quickly, it can even be rubbery. There are /so/ many ways this can work without it being 'hard'
You agree with this, yes?
It is /not/.
I repeat.
NOT.
An oversight in the rules. They are conceptually different things.
There are creatures with Hardness instead of DR for a reason. If you believe that the creature you are working should have hardness instead of DR, then PM someone about it.
Dragonborn3
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adamantine would/should ignore "hardness" including Dr from hard skin...
Because DR is /not/ hard skin! Maybe that 1/- is the ability jto ignore pain, or the ability to slightly close small wounds, or a /myriad/ of other things that DR covers that are NOT related to the 'hardness' of said thing.
| Death_Keeper |
Because DR is /not/ hard skin! Maybe that 1/- is the ability jto ignore pain, or the ability to slightly close small wounds, or a /myriad/ of other things that DR covers that are NOT related to the 'hardness' of said thing.
The /has/ been a consensus among /everyone/ but you to either: Let it go, or: follow the rules.
Seriously, it's like you don't read anything that other people saying.
At this point, you're beating a dead horse.
Okay....
Indulge me for 2 seconds. Please?
When in the description of a bullette it says something similar to "has very hard skin"
Not it closes small wounds or can't feel them that it has hardskin.
Under these specific circumstances where is the difference between very hard skin and a rock
| Damiani |
FireclawDrake wrote:Because DR is /not/ hard skin! Maybe that 1/- is the ability jto ignore pain, or the ability to slightly close small wounds, or a /myriad/ of other things that DR covers that are NOT related to the 'hardness' of said thing.
The /has/ been a consensus among /everyone/ but you to either: Let it go, or: follow the rules.
Seriously, it's like you don't read anything that other people saying.
At this point, you're beating a dead horse.
Okay....
Indulge me for 2 seconds. Please?
When in the description of a bullette it says something similar to "has very hard skin"
Not it closes small wounds or can't feel them that it has hardskin.
Under these specific circumstances where is the difference between very hard skin and a rock
Well, one has DR the other has Hardness. :)
EDIT: That is, in the Pathfinder system.
MORE EDITS: It's how the thing is stated out that matters.
| Death_Keeper |
Alright, you wanna talk real world mechanics?
Hardness is also called /brittleness/. Diamonds are very hard, but also very brittle. This is the /scientific/ definition of hardness. This is why, for example,
Now.
Skin can be 'tough' without being 'hard': it can bend, it can absorb impact, it can heal quickly, it can even be rubbery. There are /so/ many ways this can work without it being 'hard'
You agree with this, yes?
An oversight in the rules. They are conceptually different things.
There are creatures with Hardness instead of DR for a reason. If you believe that the creature you are working should have hardness instead of DR, then PM someone about it.
Thank you. This is Very helpful.
I will ignore your tone where you seemed to regard me as an idiot.
This is what I needed thank you
| Damiani |
David.De'Foul wrote:Because you're really happy to be on fire.Question...
How does being on fire give me DR?
Cause the rules say you have DR when on fire.
It's magic, joy as Icehawk wrote, or you're resisting the savagery of any incoming 'attack', subconsciously and psionically before it hits your actual 'damaging' structure.
In short, many varied reasons, be creative and make one up appropriate to your story.
| GM Capt Wombat |
I don't care, it was meant for all you in game thread rules chatter-nicks, Lynora and others have asked you time and again NOT to start a rules chatter ['blue posts]' about rules stuff in GAME PLAY,
What part of that do you not understand ?
It's like your going out of your way to fill Lynora's time with rules posts after you have been asked not to!
knock it off mu-kay
You have been told what to do, bring it here, if short,
if not make your own thread some place and have a rules
Or better still use the PM system.
That's all that's being asked of you.
[bit of frustration at the lack of compliance to a simple request]
| ♣♠Magic♦♥ |
Does anyone that was on the rooftops have magic sense that were active when the drink changed?
We had a really strong performance. One other band in our class scares me. I think at least 2nd out of 4.
On Dr.
I made a small accident.
Warlock doesn't give both a bigger blanket and higher Dr. Just one or the other.
I now have DR2/- and cold immunity and fire vulnerability.
Everything else on Warlock is Su so I'm going to assume the Dr is even though it's not listed with a label.
| Damiani |
Does anyone that was on the rooftops have magic sense that were active when the drink changed?
We had a really strong performance. One other band in our class scares me. I think at least 2nd out of 4.
On Dr.
I made a small accident.
Warlock doesn't give both a bigger blanket and higher Dr. Just one or the other.
I now have DR2/- and cold immunity and fire vulnerability.
Everything else on Warlock is Su so I'm going to assume the Dr is even though it's not listed with a label.
If you refer to Detect Magic, there are some rules and guides on lingering auras if relevant.
:points to website:
| FireclawDrake |
Sorry to say Wombat... but Kuros isn't really a mess. There are a few destroyed/damaged buildings from a fire yesterday... But that's about it.
Also, The Empire isn't super common knowledge on Agartha, and the Resistance doesn't operate there either really.
Would make sense for him to be off planet thoygh, in another system.