
icehawk333 |

I'm actually rather interested in seeing what dragon club members will think of Kevin.
The funny thing about him with Mike and Drake is he'd be interested in them as guys, when they'd have no interest in him, but when they become a dragon, they'd be interested in him, but he'd lose interest in them.
Are you playing Mike and Drake?

lynora |

Lyn, if you're still thinking of class stuff for Andromeda, she'd fit well with Oracle, time mystery, Legalistic curse. Sounds a lot like her, minus the flavor text on legalistic.
I'm trying to stay away from Oracle because that's Ephebe. She's oracle(time)/divine gunslinger*/soulknife. With a dash of time thief thrown in by way of subbing out some abilities for others.
*divine gunslinger is a prestige class that stacks with oracle. She's not triple classing here. :)
So I'm trying to go a bit different for Andromeda. She's already pretty similar with cleric/divine gunslinger, but I wanted to differentiate them a little. Still working on it. Playing around with ideas for different sort of speedster type powers.

icehawk333 |

♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:Lyn, if you're still thinking of class stuff for Andromeda, she'd fit well with Oracle, time mystery, Legalistic curse. Sounds a lot like her, minus the flavor text on legalistic.I'm trying to stay away from Oracle because that's Ephebe. She's oracle(time)/divine gunslinger*/soulknife. With a dash of time thief thrown in by way of subbing out some abilities for others.
*divine gunslinger is a prestige class that stacks with oracle. She's not triple classing here. :)
So I'm trying to go a bit different for Andromeda. She's already pretty similar with cleric/divine gunslinger, but I wanted to differentiate them a little. Still working on it. Playing around with ideas for different sort of speedster type powers.
3.5 class, swiftblade.

lynora |

lynora wrote:3.5 class, swiftblade.♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:Lyn, if you're still thinking of class stuff for Andromeda, she'd fit well with Oracle, time mystery, Legalistic curse. Sounds a lot like her, minus the flavor text on legalistic.I'm trying to stay away from Oracle because that's Ephebe. She's oracle(time)/divine gunslinger*/soulknife. With a dash of time thief thrown in by way of subbing out some abilities for others.
*divine gunslinger is a prestige class that stacks with oracle. She's not triple classing here. :)
So I'm trying to go a bit different for Andromeda. She's already pretty similar with cleric/divine gunslinger, but I wanted to differentiate them a little. Still working on it. Playing around with ideas for different sort of speedster type powers.
Interesting idea, but totally unsuited to An since she hasn't any arcane abilities.

♣♠Magic♦♥ |

Time Thief seems like exactly what you want. Non arcane, super speed, quick heal wounds. I think you can fix the pitfalls we had with it before.

lynora |

Time Thief seems like exactly what you want. Non arcane, super speed, quick heal wounds. I think you can fix the pitfalls we had with it before.
Yeah, that's the class that I pilfered abilities from for Ephebe. It can do the speed thing but only in short bursts. It's more prince of Persia than quicksilver.
I think I am probably going to just have to start from scratch because what I want is more of a watered down time stop as an at will ability.This is the problem when you start trying to rebuild a character who is basically the same person as another character but a little bit different. :P

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icehawk333 wrote:Interesting idea, but totally unsuited to An since she hasn't any arcane abilities.lynora wrote:3.5 class, swiftblade.♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:Lyn, if you're still thinking of class stuff for Andromeda, she'd fit well with Oracle, time mystery, Legalistic curse. Sounds a lot like her, minus the flavor text on legalistic.I'm trying to stay away from Oracle because that's Ephebe. She's oracle(time)/divine gunslinger*/soulknife. With a dash of time thief thrown in by way of subbing out some abilities for others.
*divine gunslinger is a prestige class that stacks with oracle. She's not triple classing here. :)
So I'm trying to go a bit different for Andromeda. She's already pretty similar with cleric/divine gunslinger, but I wanted to differentiate them a little. Still working on it. Playing around with ideas for different sort of speedster type powers.
she could substiture divine or psionic for it
I mean it's not the first time we've done stuff like that I don't thinkheck I have a character concept that qualified for this class with just one level of summoner and the precocious apprentice feat
using psionic acceleration instead of haste or divine instead of arcane would hardly be a stretch here

David.De'Foul |

Heh Dave wrote himself into that again
I was originally planning just to stop that at the word "scale" and then pick up at the second post
But then Dave decided to have an identity crisis that he's trying to repress the signs of

Silinrul |

Well, taking into account the rules light nature of this game, and the fact that Sil is totally new here(Not even a week), I was thinking it would be OK to just get whatever answers various peoples wanted to provide.
After all, its just info for him to learn about his new home, so I'm hoping Lyn won't care how much he's able to gather.
However, these three would be the ones he chooses, if he must pick:
General animal population, presence of woodland creatures, presence of powerful unnatural creatures.
Also, the radius for him is 16 miles, lol.

The Dalesman |

Lucky for me the hangar scene hasn't moved much, but apologies nonetheless for my being AFK with no warning.
My venerable laptop of 8+ years finally gave up the ghost on me, and I've been spending most of my spare time since then trying to build a replacement for it.
Yay Hardware Mode (-_-)

Krays |
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Now I can pull my hood up!

The Dalesman |

♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:Time Thief seems like exactly what you want. Non arcane, super speed, quick heal wounds. I think you can fix the pitfalls we had with it before.Yeah, that's the class that I pilfered abilities from for Ephebe. It can do the speed thing but only in short bursts. It's more prince of Persia than quicksilver.
I think I am probably going to just have to start from scratch because what I want is more of a watered down time stop as an at will ability.This is the problem when you start trying to rebuild a character who is basically the same person as another character but a little bit different. :P
Lyn - I just spied this little third-party offering in the Paizo Blog. It might be worth a peek for some 'speedster' abilities that could be unique to Andromeda.

lynora |
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lynora wrote:♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:Time Thief seems like exactly what you want. Non arcane, super speed, quick heal wounds. I think you can fix the pitfalls we had with it before.Yeah, that's the class that I pilfered abilities from for Ephebe. It can do the speed thing but only in short bursts. It's more prince of Persia than quicksilver.
I think I am probably going to just have to start from scratch because what I want is more of a watered down time stop as an at will ability.This is the problem when you start trying to rebuild a character who is basically the same person as another character but a little bit different. :P
Lyn - I just spied this little third-party offering in the Paizo Blog. It might be worth a peek for some 'speedster' abilities that could be unique to Andromeda.
Thanks, Dalesman! I picked that up and just read through it, and that's actually perfect to use as a base with just a few tweaks here and there. That saves me hours of work. Well worth the $1.49. :)

lynora |

Well, taking into account the rules light nature of this game, and the fact that Sil is totally new here(Not even a week), I was thinking it would be OK to just get whatever answers various peoples wanted to provide.
After all, its just info for him to learn about his new home, so I'm hoping Lyn won't care how much he's able to gather.
However, these three would be the ones he chooses, if he must pick:
General animal population, presence of woodland creatures, presence of powerful unnatural creatures.
Also, the radius for him is 16 miles, lol.
In general there would be more animals around than he would expect. Like, significantly more. (They come to see Kitty mostly. She doesn't even know she's drawing them in.)
And powerful unnatural creatures are....mostly in the school. WIth a slight ping or ten in town, but it's a town. Good luck sorting that out.

lynora |

Lucky for me the hangar scene hasn't moved much, but apologies nonetheless for my being AFK with no warning.
My venerable laptop of 8+ years finally gave up the ghost on me, and I've been spending most of my spare time since then trying to build a replacement for it.
Yay Hardware Mode (-_-)
Well, glad to have you back. Sorry your laptop died. It's always sad when a piece of technology finally gives up the ghost. Mostly because of all the time, effort, and money that goes into replacing them. Change is hard, goshdarnit! :P

lynora |

Getting over my cold. Thank goodness. So I can mostly think kind of clearly now. I know that's reassuring. :P
Anyhow, aside from the Prismatic Gang, is anyone else waiting on me for anything? I'll go over it myself to check, but it'll get a faster response if you remind me. :)

Damiani |

RE: Speedsters
It's my impression that in any game that has 'balance' (i.e. Pathfinder and the Level Class system), having +actions, is frowned on greatly since it will horribly break the back and forth that tends to happen and resolved via Initiative.
And before anyone jumps down the throat about 'rules light setting' -- just speaking aloud on systems.
Now, that being said-- there's an easy method I can think of to resolve this, or two, rather.
Method One -- "NPC Foo"
You make the "PC" in question an NPC, and then it doesn't really matter -- acting in the name of Storytelling and what not, do what you want. Ultimately, as the main Storyteller/GM, you can do that as much as you want before #riot, or #tableflip might happen. I'm fairly sure this wouldn't be an issue.
Method Two -- "Special Effects"
A common way to get around rigid fixed 'values' is to gloss them up with a FX.
* That +4 to AC bonus? you're hyper speeding and dodging better.
* That +20 to a knowledge skill? similar.
* That 3d6 Heal you can cast? You effectively speed up a week's time. Get a hair cut eventually-- but you're healing!
etc. etc.
With Method Two, you maintain the "balance" without resorting to any really weak "Time Stops" usable on others without any saves, or similar. Because, honestly, given the system and our setting, meh.
Hope this helps. Don't even need to go Third Party!
Random Hallway -- Likely needs a response, unless Jeran's going to let Dav slink off.
Toodles.

Damiani |

@Silinrul
From my input to your use of Commune with Nature, I wanna say that the school is kind of spotchy, but definitely if it fits in the motif of the spell, there's LOTS of unnatural powerful beings... but then I get stuck on the 'unnatural' part. Does that mean by being Type, or ... plane/planet of origin?
Same with Kuros, I'm fairly sure.
However, to throw into the mixture if you're keen-- as the spell recognizes the 'roads' and town/school, I'm fairly sure that it would trigger at the presence of something near the main road, that stands out. Not natural and powerful. However exact that 'read' is, I'd have to re-read the spell further.
If you're interested in looking into that further, let me know.
Cheers.

lynora |
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Dami, I usually don't stat my characters. At all, period. I just have a vague idea of what they can do and add it all up on the fly if necessary. Not a problem. But with Ephebe and Andromeda I need to have a solid framework to give me the exact nature of their limits because once you add time powers into the mix it's super easy to get way OP way fast without intending to. I don't mind Ephebe being OP now because she's in NPC territory as a teacher, and also she's a Plot Device...rather literally. But Andromeda is back at the beginning in PC territory. So I have to know what she can and can't do. With some tweaks to reflect the whole Champion thingy. So I don't accidentally steamroll over anyone else's characters.
Also, regarding Time Stop....bloody hell, I keep forgetting how watered down it's gotten already! (Sorry, having a grognard moment here.)

♣♠Magic♦♥ |
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I really like The Sorcerer's Apprentice. A lot of people say it's a bad movie, but I really enjoy it.
Also gave me a cool idea for an antagonist after things have calmed down a little bit.
Anyways, posted with Rakki, Hermes doesn't have much of anything to add unless I find something when I reread, and it's Dave's go in that scene.

The Dalesman |

Thanks, Dalesman! I picked that up and just read through it, and that's actually perfect to use as a base with just a few tweaks here and there. That saves me hours of work. Well worth the $1.49. :)
Glad it was a good inspiration. Can't argue with that price point, neh? ;)
Also, regarding Time Stop....bloody hell, I keep forgetting how watered down it's gotten already! (Sorry, having a grognard moment here.)
Right there with you - I really hate what they did to Time Stop - it almost ruins the entire point of having the spell.
Well, glad to have you back. Sorry your laptop died. It's always sad when a piece of technology finally gives up the ghost. Mostly because of all the time, effort, and money that goes into replacing them. Change is hard, goshdarnit! :P
And expensive sometimes (^-^)

Andromeda Sunwake |

Got all the stats done. Thanks to the new class this was much easier than I expected. And I'm pretty happy with the differences between the two girls. :)