The 5th Mendevian Crusade (Inactive)

Game Master Brian Minhinnick


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Hmm. My wife wants to play, so that's 4. I also sent a message to Thron, because he wanted to get into one of my games. So that's probably our five right there. I'm gonna wait on a recruitment thread since it might not be necessary.

Wife's going to play Fidget Pendelton, gnome oradin of Sarenrae. For those not in the know oradin is a build which uses a level of life oracle and the life link revelation combined with levels of hospitaler paladin to turn the character into a party HP battery via lay on hands. She's gonna go for the whole dervish dance thing. Probably do the Guardian mythic path.


Male Human (Brevic) Master Summoner 10

Hope you don't mind a few questions mechanics-wise about that build;

-"You may have one bond active per oracle level." Seems like getting at least a few levels of Oracle will be necessary; how much Paladin would she be going?
-"Each round at the start of your turn, if the bonded creature is wounded for 5 or more hit points below its maximum hit points, it heals 5 hit points and you take 5 hit points of damage." Is that a terribly significant amount of damage?

Still handy having a divine caster and hopefully a good player, just curious about your thoughts from that mechanics standpoint.


Hmm, I guess at least a few levels of oracle would need to be thrown in to get the whole party. I was thinking it went off character level. I think her general plan is to be almost all paladin. Probably start out Oracle 1/Paladin 2 and see where it goes from there.

5 HP is not a significant amount at high levels, but at low-mid levels essentially giving people fast healing 5 is huge. The idea is that she'll have healing options that allow her to heal while she keeps fighting. It's not a be all end all, but it's cool. She doesn't need to get a link with everyone, just whichever one or two melee characters/eidolon are getting hit the most.

Thron is in, but he won't have time to make a PC until Wednesday.


Level 3 Gnome Oradin of Sarenrae | HP 31 | AC 18/T 14/FF 15 | Saves F+9/R+6/W+6 | Perception +1 | Lay on Hands 4/4 | 1st Lvl Oracle Spells 3/4

Hi everyone! I'll see what happens with my Oracle levels, as Jelani says we may not end up needing more than two or three life links at most. I can always heal the old fashioned way too if necessary.


Hi Fidget, looking forward to playing with you again!

Nathaniel, if you're curious, here's a build guide for the Oradin.

And jelani, I almost asked if we'd be as good of just recruiting from player you know. Sounds like a great group!


Thron checking in. How does a paladin sound to y'all?


Erp, just saw jelanis post about his wife going paladin. So...what do you guys feel lacking in?


Melee inquisitor, melee summoner with melee eidolon, melee oradin, and support witch. I'd say we're lacking a zen archer or some other ranged damage dealer.


All of us have access to at least some form of healing. Ruarc has CLW and he can eat sins to heal himself after combat. Summoners can take infernal healing, oradin is obvious, with also has CLW and also infernal healing?


Hey Thron, glad you'll be joining in. We're going to be 1 full caster and 3 tough, melee-ish partial casters.

Mythic Paths aren't the only lens to look through, but from that vantage we have a:
- Archmage (witch)
- Archmage dual with guardian or trickster (summoner)
- Champion (inquisitor)
- Guardian? (oradin)

So I'd say something that interests you and goes with the Marshal or Trickster or Heirophant paths. I like Jelani's Zen Archer idea, or an archer Bard/Ranger/Cleric/Paladin, or a Gunslinger, or even a Mad Bomber/Grenadier Alchemist.

if it were me, I think Marshall is a really interesting role and I'd like to get to play it some day...but I don't honestly feel like we have any big gaps right now, except as Jelani says some ranged damage, so feel free to make whatever you think'd be fun.


May do an Eldritch Knight Archer build...hmmmm.

I forget your stance on this, Jelani, so forgive me if I asked this before, but what are your thoughts on SLA's serving as meeting the prereq's for Prestige Class Entry? Not a requirement for my character, but may affect how I build it.

Shadow Lodge

HP 100/100, Fort 13 Ref 20 Will 11, AC 21 TAC 16 FFAC 15, Init 8, CMD 33

Yello, Thron, Fidget.

Hmm; given all the not-quite-true frontliners we have (with the exception of my eidolon), I'd love a character who can give us bonuses; a Bard or a Freebooter Ranger or anything else similar.

Ranged damage is a good point.

@Fidget & Jelani- with regard to the healing, you probably don't need a link with all of the party, just those most likely to be in the line of fire- my eidolon, me, Ruarc.


Level 3 Gnome Oradin of Sarenrae | HP 31 | AC 18/T 14/FF 15 | Saves F+9/R+6/W+6 | Perception +1 | Lay on Hands 4/4 | 1st Lvl Oracle Spells 3/4

@Gyrfalcon: Happy to play with you again, too! This is Poppy's little sister. Just as spacey and a little dumber. I'm so excited!


I mean, I honestly think this party will be fine no matter what you play, Thron. But ranged damage would be nice, and Zen Archers are a ton of fun to play. They get a rediculous amount of archery related feats and can do really good damage. That's without even considering Mythic.

You could do a dwarven Zen Archer/Empyreal Sorcerer/Arcane Archer. Have your spells, AC, will save, and to-hit all based off wisdom. Even pick up a useful physical skill based off wisdom with the Wisdom in the Flesh trait. You'd be sturdy, your slow speed offset by monk, etc.

As for SLAs, I go with the current FAQ. Spell-Like Abilities, Casting, and Prerequisites: Does a creature with a spell-like ability count as being able to cast that spell for the purpose of prerequisites or requirements?

That being said, for Arcane Archer make sure whatever race you're using to qualify that cheese has an SLA that's on the wizard/sorcerer list or it will count as a divine SLA.


@Fidget, excellent, I like that she and Poppy are related! (I had my suspicions, based on her name.)

Did Jelani ever mention Hoosible Drybriar, the gnome I played with him and Thron a while back? He was...different in his own way: a sweet, distractible fellow who delighted in dried flowers and dried corpses, and dreamed of one day animating those corpses with Wendo spirits. In the mean time, he wove wreaths and chains of dried flowers to decorate the corpses with.

Sadly, that game ended before he was able to realize his dreams. Which reminds me (Jelani or Thron or Arkwright too, since I know you're a DM as well) if you ever have a game where you think Hoosible would fit in, give me a holler. There aren't too many games with room for a poor, misunderstood gnomish Wendifa, and I still think he'd be a lot of fun to play...


Level 3 Gnome Oradin of Sarenrae | HP 31 | AC 18/T 14/FF 15 | Saves F+9/R+6/W+6 | Perception +1 | Lay on Hands 4/4 | 1st Lvl Oracle Spells 3/4

Haha, Hoosible sounds quite entertaining! Gnomes are the best.


Think we're basically just waiting on Thron's character at this point. Once he's finished, I'll get us started. Let me know if any of you have questions before then.


I'll work on my character today. Though I do have family dropping in out of the blue (told me after work last night), but I'll try to rush something together.


Init +5/ HP 94/94 // AC: 26/T:17/FF:21 - Percep: +18// F +8/R +14/W +12 /CMB +10 - CMD 24

Ok, threw this together as fast as I could. Hope there aren't any mistakes. I'm still debating on whether I'll go full Champion or dual with Archmage.


Hey gang, I'm off to Yosemite for a few days and may not be able to post until Monday, so if things start before then, know that I'm *very* excited...but not online. ;-)

Thon/Valeria, what's your planned advancement? Clearly not just straight fighter.


Init +5/ HP 94/94 // AC: 26/T:17/FF:21 - Percep: +18// F +8/R +14/W +12 /CMB +10 - CMD 24

Level 2: Sorcerer
3-12: Eldritch Knight
12+: Uncertain, but sure it will come to me.

All in all, an archery focused build, with magic to enhance my physical damage ability.


Okay dudes and dudettes, I think we're almost ready to go. I've got my real life game tonight, but I will still probably get the thread up at some point today. If not today, then tomorrow. Once it's ready I'll link it here.


Once you've finished your character crunch completely, please post in the new discussion thread so I can check it over. Once I've checked everyone's alias, I'll open gameplay for posting.

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