Rappan Athuk set in Nirmathas, Golarion

Game Master baldwin the merciful

No problem. Belt looks good or the belt with the +1 is fine.

The boots are WAAAAAYY better!

10rds of uses a day.
That's 2-3 tumbles per combat! And it sych's with your class abilities so well it's crazy good.

As a rogue YOU need to sort your positioning for flanks, I'll 5ft step when needed but asking an ally to chew an AOO to maintain a flank is alot.

I will look at teamwork feats like tandem trip or there is one that allows a 5ft step when an ally hits.

Your call but those boots are awesome for the cost.

I'm swapping out for a belt that gives me +4 instead of +5, no bonus to hit, but there's no limit to its' use. I don't want to worry about running out of uses halfway through the dungeon

Desmond can you update your profile stat line to include:
AC(s), Init., Perc, Saves, HPs (current/total)

That makes it easier for me so I don't have to open tabs for that often used info.

Just patted my baby nephew to sleep.
Lets post.

I'm back...I too will endeavor to flank with you, Desmond. We should be able to dos so with both Grimm and I on the lookout.

Huzzah, flanking buddies! Pretty much all you have to do is get near them and I'll tumble around to make it a flank.

I'll get up a revised map and the results over everyone's rolls when I get home.

Awake!!

Heading out for the evening.

Desmond how do you have a +1 flaming and +1 cold shortsword and yoru other gear?

5th level wealth is 10,500

Did you to the following:

Each of the +1 short swords with special ability costs:

310 GP Masterwork short sword
2000 for +1 enhancement
2000 for +1 Special ability, flaming
Total: 4310

310 GP Masterwork short sword
2000 for +1 enhancement
2000 for +1 Special ability, cold
Total: 4310

+1 COR = 1000 GP
+1 ROP = 2000 GP
+1 Amulet of Nat health = 2000
Belt of tumbling = 800
Iron Rope = 750

Total: 15,170

Note:

I've always read the adding special ability to a weapon as follows:
Can anyone point me to FAQ or thread that discusses this? Has my gaming group and I been calculating this incorrectly for years?

310 GP Masterwork Short Sword
8000 GP for +1 enhancement plus the +1 special ability flaming makes it a +2 weapon.
total: 8310

310 GP Masterwork Short Sword
8000 GP for +1 enhancement plus the +1 special ability cold makes it a +2 weapon.
total: 8310

If done this way you have: 23,170 in gear.

I was under the impression you did not have to have a magical bonus to hit to have a magical ability. I was treating them simply as +1 weapons at 2000 gold. No bonus to hit, just more damage if I do hit.

Don't think you can do that.

No, A +1 bonus is to attack and damage, and it is 2000 GP, plain and simple.

I think we're getting a bit confused. I do not have a +1 weapon. I have a weapon with an enchantment on it that is valued as a +1 weapon. Does that make sense? Have I been doing this wrong for years?

No, A +1 bonus is to attack and damage, and it is 2000 GP, plain and simple.

So I'm clear your position is it's method A,

310 MSW weapon
2000 for +1 enhancement that is required before a special ability bonus is added
2000 for the special ability bonus
total: 4310

A weapon needs to be magical for a special ability like flaming or cold to be applied.

Ok, so it needs to be MW, already have a +1, THEN you can add abilities. Understood, sorry for the confusion.

I dropped my amulet of natural armor and my ring of protection as well as the iron rope. I believe that puts me slightly under 10500. Am I doing my math correctly?

Before you drop anything lets make sure we are computing the weapon cost correctly.

Ok, if we decide that it needs to have a +1 and also be masterwork and the cost comes out at 4310, this is what I think we're looking at.

Flaming shortsword-4310
Frost shortsword-4310
Cloak of Resistance-1000
Belt of Tumbling-800

4310+4310=8630

8630+1000+800=10430

I think it's actually 8310 per sword.

Here is link of an explanation to someone adding abilities to a longbow.

ADDING Abilities Discussion

That was quick search but I'll keep looking.

Adding Special abilities

Yes it would be 8000...

for around 4000 a piece you might try asking for +1 swords that do an additional 1pt each of fire and cold damage.

That is just entirely not worth the price. I'll keep that as just +1 weapons for now.

Sorry for raining on the day.

Don't be, I'm actually glad you brought that up to me. I like to make sure I'm going by the rules

I don't really look at character equipment much and don't nickle and dime on the wealth but the dual special ability weapons threw me.

Yep.

8000 each.

Back later this afternoon.

I'll DMPC any remaining stealth and perception checks in a little bit, then more the story along.

Sorry ...I'm out of the house and typing all that on my phone is daunting as hell.

Group Numbers:

Desmond
Perception: 15, 11, 16
Stealth: 19, 24, 16

Grimm:
Perception: 21, 16, 17
Stealth: 36, 26, 33

Malcolm:
Perception: 6, 16, 6
Stealth: 19, 3, 13

Vatilda:
Perception: 8, 19, 10
Stealth: 17, 2, 16

Karnog
Perception: 31, 24, 20
Stealth: 8, 4, 1

Kalim;
Perception: 19, 3, 3
Stealth: 16, 5, 13

There is a light cantrip on Malcolm

Who is taking over the tracking of loot for the party?

Assassin Vines:

Wand - detect secret doors (16 Charges)
Hvy Flail +1

leather pouch, coin,
PP 5
GP: 10
SP: 12

I have a busy day into the evening tomorrow, so I will be light on the the posting.

Crazy at work through tomorrow afternoon. I'll try to get something up this evening but don't count on it. sorry.

I'm busy throughout the day today with family. I should be on later in the afternoon and evening though. In person gaming night was cancelled for today.

Very busy day today, so I won't be on till the evening.

I'm pretty wiped out, I'll get a post up tomorrow.

I am paralyzed for 6 rounds from the pool, correct?

I am paralyzed for 6 rounds from the pool, correct?

Correct. The liquid in the pool has a dual effect: causes paralysis and dissolves flesh.

I did reduce the potential length of paralysis written from 2d6 to 2d4. Karnog's lasso could be useful here.

Correct. The liquid in the pool has a dual effect: causes paralysis and dissolves flesh.

I did reduce the potential length of paralysis written from 2d6 to 2d4.

This must be where the merciful comes from ;)

LOL...I've actually permitted many more potential saves (the save dice seems have cursed this group right now) and I haven't had the harpies take any offense - yet. I also make two of the four weaker (DC 13 vs DC 16 Will saves).

Lets just say, you all bypassed one entire level of dungeon already. I tried to provide a couple hints suggesting that the terrain was going deeper (which in my DM speak generally means harder).

Big Hollowscream party for my daughter and her friends this evening...so, I'm out of service till late night.

It is pretty easy to make the wrong turn and stumble into trouble in RA. Usually I'll describe terrain features such as steep slope down or slight incline to provide indication that the group is changing levels. The change of level generally, but not always, corresponds to hazard or difficulty level.

You all had very little option with the harpies since half the party fell under their captivating song charm, but remember the warnings, there is no shame in fleeing if presented the opportunity. Nobody enjoys turning tail but sometimes that may be the only real solution for survival.

I have learned this with multiple chars in Baldwin's games. In fact he knows Grimm quite well.....

It's game night so I won't be on this evening.

I'm busy until the evening. So I won't be able to update.

Sorry, guys. Worst year of teaching in 12 years + nasty headcold or allergies or whatever the f@$# this is = not a lot of happy posting time.

no problem, feel better.

Busy day for me today, I'll get something up tomorrow.

FYI: I'll be offline in the early afternoon until either very late this evening or early tomorrow.

Ok...I'm going to be offline now.