
Grimm Sharpest |

Pally's are awesome.
I am playing one at level 10 in Baldwin's game.
A big ole mountain o HP and fightery goodness.
Note: Grimm is a self buffer so the whole point of him stealing is to get a round of prebuff before combat.
If anyone has a MESSAGE spell I can warn you as well.

Grimm Sharpest |

Hey,
What kind of Light Armor did we get for free?
Spiked MITHRIL Breastplate right?
That's light armor!
Oi! Malcolm you might be taking an Alkali Flask to the face next round.

Grimm Sharpest |

actually, might be better just to Power Attack.
a Stirge swarm takes 1/2 damage from weapon attacks.
the alkali flasks I bought for oozes.

baldwin the merciful |

Hey,
What kind of Light Armor did we get for free?
Spiked MITHRIL Breastplate right?
That's light armor!Oi! Malcolm you might be taking an Alkali Flask to the face next round.
Mundane Hide, Leather, studded leather, or chain shirt. Basically something to prevent the DM from taking total advantage of your in the evening. I had previously warned folks, and they learned first hand, that heavy armor can be hazard in this dungeon. There is even a rumor they've heard.

Karnog Kegmeister |

Yeah....AoE healing, I can do. Hurting, not so much.

Sheyan |

If I was level 6 or could spontaneously cast this spell as well as summon natures ally I could get an air elemental on the field and whirlwind them away, but I'm guessing even though part of the spell description is similar to summon natures ally I'm not allowed to spontaneously cast it. I think

Sheyan |

Hey guys, long story short this is the first time I've ever played a druid and I think I botched him mechanically pretty bad. In addition to that we're going into a dungeon without a rogue, so one way or the other I'm thinking of bringing a rogue in.
I have an idea that I haven't brought up to baldwin yet, thought I'd get everybodies opinion. Our original thought was just changing Sheyan mechanically, but I feel like he just was built like a druid from the ground up and the change wouldn't feel real. My thought is that one of Sheyan's more urban friends comes and finds him, telling him there's an emergency in his home forest and he's needed now, but Sheyan asks him to stick around and help the group. Thoughts?

baldwin the merciful |

Sheyan's going to switch character concepts for this game, the party really needs a skill monkey and he enjoys playing a rogue. When I recruited for this this game, I mentioned there were old fashioned difficult/deadly traps and that a rogue would be important. Sheyan's going to fill that role for party balance.
So we'll have:
Melee:
Malcolm
Grimm
Divine:
Karnog
Vatilda
Arcane:
Kalim
Skill:
Sheyan

Grimm Sharpest |

Ooo! See if Baldwin will allow you to take Cornugon Smash!
You can SA without needing a Flank Buddy!
Also a Scout/Brute rogue Archetype is easily the best.
Auto SA when you charge or move ten feet!
And the Brute's BRUTAL BEATING power is awesome.
PM me if you want some help!
(I normally lothe rogues but the aforementioned combo is actually really good at combat)

STR Ranger |

Actually a better idea might be to play
1 Level of Rogue for Trap finding
The rest all Wild Stalker levels.
(I recommend Dwarf for Hardy and Steel Soul, Glory of Old trait.
The reason- this app is a meat grinder.
If you go weapon and shield style you can operate a high AC TWF RAGE build!!
could go
Str 17 (13 points, level 4 bump to 18)
Dex 13 (3 points, Baldwin's bonus point here)
Con 14 (2 points)
Int 10
Wis 14 (2 points)
Cha 8
Trait-Glory of old.
1(rogue) SA, Trap finding -Steel Soul
2 Strong Senses, Wild Empathy
3 Uncanny Dodge, Combat Style:TWF , Improved Shieldbash
4 Endurance, Favored Terrain (underground!!)
5 Rage of the Wild .
Buy a Belt of Str +2.
Weapons: Primary HEAVY SHIELD, OFFHAND: Cestus!
At level 5
BAB 4
Str 5 (18+ belt)
+1 Masterwork Shield
Normal = +10 for TWO handing the shield when you move!
+8/+8 when shield/cesti twf!
Then you can RAGE!!
AC= 20, 10+2 (dex)+6 (Armor)+2 (shield)
Nets: Trap finding, Perception bonuses, Skills, Attack Power, Good AC and Good Saves AND you still get spells!

Desmond Aeros |

Man you guys jumped all over this haha. Well I already have his crunch done, under this alias, sorry for not checking these posts earlier. I did end up going scout (I freaking love that archetype), TWF build with double shortswords, and have an interesting feat I have listed under abilities.

baldwin the merciful |

Desmond the disorienting maneuver is fine with me it's not overpowering.
Everyone has been playing well together from an alignment stand point, so far. That's great, I just want to remind everyone there are two LG characters (cleric and paladin), I'm generally not an in your face alignment person. I would like to make sure we continue to have harmony rather than discord. As an example killing someone who has surrendered would create some concern...fortunately, that has not happened.
I will also remind everyone - this is the first time Grimm has heard this - that the creators of this dungeon take great pleasure in screwing with alignment and ability shifts. There are certain items that just should not be touched by certain characters.

Desmond Aeros |

Ah one trait, forgot that. I got rid of reactionary. The other trait is more flavor anyways.
I'm CN but I won't sow chaos and discord. I lean heavily towards good.

baldwin the merciful |

5th level wealth, no more than 1/2 wealth in one item.
You'll begin with the following boon on top of your WBL
3 )CLW potions each (1d8+3)
(2) CMW potion (2d8+6)
potion of magic weapon (1)
vial anti-toxin (1)
Haversack
Everfull Mug (3/day 12 ounces of fine beer or wine)
Compass
Blank Map book (roll d2, 1 =waterproof, 2=non-waterproof)
Scrivener’s kit
silk 50 ft.(1)
Grapple hook or grapple arrow/bolt (1)
bandolier (1)
Candles (5

baldwin the merciful |

Desmond:
Remember you get that "second wind" ability to heal yourself 2/day (1d4+1HP), as a standard action. You begin maximum HP for level 1 and 2, then roll the remaining levels reroll "1's".
If you haven't already done so, remember you get One (1) ability point bonus that must be used in either your current 4th or 5th lowest ability scores. No adjusting other scores to account for this bonus.
Since you are an urbanish rogue by background and you didn't come in through the cartographer - I'll give you 2/2 skill points to knowledge: local/nobility or local/history (your choice)

Desmond Aeros |

Muahahaha, I found the most amazing pair of boots for Desmond ever

Grimm Sharpest |

Well they are perfect for Rogues who are about the only class with no inherent ability to boost attack.
Pally= Smite
Ranger= FE
Inquisitor=Bane, Judgement and spells
Etc.
I'll endeavor to flank with you as much as possible.

Desmond Aeros |

Oh I didn't see that. I was actually thinking about swapping them out for something else because I don't like keeping track of magic items that have a certain amount of uses per day. I'd rather have something that's just passive and I don't have to worry about running out, so I'm going with this belt instead.