Hey, don't worry about that. The only reason I even know half of what I do is because I spend probably way too much time pouring over the books. Thanks for letting me do the change though. With the new re-training rules, some people prefer going by that method.
Well, apparently the game gods really want me to know what the ring of the Dragon does. Should be able to identify most things with that kind of a roll.
Also, now that I have done it, I'm kind of happy that Miagnik has that spell. It makes sense with his own scholarly pursuits.
Yes, sorry about that Stephanie, I should have given you a heads up.
Many Goblin tribes do interact peacefully with some species of giant spider (The party has even interacted with one of these groups of Spider Riders, riding giant hunting spiders, as well as being attacked by a different group riding giant poisonous spiders.
Somewhere I have a write up (it is brief) about some Goblin Deities that are also Spider related.
Now, with Stephanie’s mother being a Goblin witch, and her father (deceased) a Dwarf, you have the choice of having lived with your mother’s family (She has been married to the Goblin King for as long as you decide is good for your back story as a Princess) or with her father’s family. Obviously if she has lived among Goblin kind she will have some knowledge of the relationship between goblins and spiders.
Stephanie's status as a Princess is from her mother's marriage to the Goblin King (and we haven't delved into her Dwarven ancestry, but it would be interesting, and hilarious, if she were to discover that she is related to the Dwarven King on her father's side).
This actually came up because of some game orienting information I received from Terquem when I first joined. I think I posted something a while back about Miagnik being one of the Goblins that worked in the capital city. But he never said anything about living with large spiders and I doubt they do inside the capital city.
Honestly it's your call. Given the fact that you actually have a really good knowledge local bonus it's entirely possible that you do (or did) know at one time but never thought too much about it and just forgot. Even a well learned 18 intelligence character can't necessarily be expected to remember everything. It may also be one of the things you actively dismissed as a possibility from your mind. Being royalty, especially the more traditional type, could easily have clouded your views on the world around you.
It kind of looks like we are still waiting to level up everyone (Melodak and Stephanie?) and I will level up the NPC's soon, so we can get moving again. Also I'll post some Goblin related infor as well.
Gnome* Wizard/4, HP 15/23 (2 NL), AC 13 (T-13, FF-11), Fort +0 Ref +5 Will +4 ---- Init. +8, Perc. +2
Oops, Stephanie should be all leveled up now. I had worked through the numbers already, but forgot to change the 3 in the character tag to a 4. Everything should be good now.
Thanks for the insight on the spider info. Time for some character growth?
Well to be honest, we sort of abandoned keeping track of xp (not my favorite way to play, but it is working okay for this adventure). I'm keeping track of the encounter's and how difficult they are, and making a judgment call for when it is time to level.
One fight? What are you talking about? You're a hero, running around, fighting monsters and vagabonds and getting caught up in a huge plot that has you captured and brought into what was thought to be a mostly empty tomb. That fight was just the little push you needed to culminate all of your experiences into a new level of aptitude.
Rant over...
Now, once more to clarify. I would just like to say that Miagnik's in-game anger was in no way hostility directed at the players. I assume everyone here knows that, but I just want to be sure.
I saw an interesting opportunity to shift the current party balance. (Despite what the DM. just wrote about the characters learning to trust each-other. Sorry Terquem.) Especially given Miagniks recent actions when it came to Princess Stephanie's well being.
Quick ruling required here. So there is no description on how a ring of spell storing actually gains a spell inside of it, or at least none I could find.
Would you treat it just like a staff gains a charge? At the beginning of each day when regaining spells you may lose a spell slot in order to power it. Or would you allow someone to throw in a spell whenever they had a slot open?
Also, would the spell in question be cast at the caster level when the spell was cast?
The core rule book sort of explains that a caster can cast a spell into the ring (And for the record, many of the things I try to do are based on old styles of play and rules I have always used, but I need to make sure I don't make a major mistake on these kinds of things, so.
The Ring can hold up to three "levels" of spell power (three first level spells, or one third level spell, or a combination of spells not exceeding three levels) MetaMagic feats that alter the level of the spell count toward this limit. The Ring, when you find it, is empty, but you can, after preparing spells (or in you case, when your spell allotment is restored), cast any spell (or spells) that will fit into the ring, consuming any material components required in the process. At this point the Ring is "charged" with spells, and for that day you have fewer spells available to cast. Spells can be cast from the ring, and do not require components, or somatic gestures (you could be wearing armor and cast those spells from the ring with no penalty). Casting times remain the same, with a minimum of 1 standard action (so it seems you cannot put a quickened spell in the ring?). The power of the spell, if it requires Caster Level information, is equal to the caster level of the caster (in this case you) that put the spell into the ring, and spells (I feel) can be placed into the ring at any caster level you desire (based upon your maximum caster level and the minimum caster level required to cast that spell).
Also! Divine and Arcane spells can be mixed, so in all practicality, you could put a first level spell into the ring, then hand it to Stephanie, who could put a first level spell in the ring, then hand it to Windel who could add a third first level spell to the ring, and then no mater who is wearing the ring, if there is a spell in the ring on your spell list you could cast it, and you could have a Cure Light Wounds backed up that Windel or Atharessa could use in a pinch.
Cool. Alright, well that answers my first two questions. Had you not limited it to only one spell level, it would indeed be a highly versatile magic item.
That said, it is still a very versatile item.
Now for a more interesting question. Would the special powers, such as Miagnik's Draconic bloodline, come into effect with spells they empower the ring with? Normally for things like scrolls, potions and wands, this is not the case. I've always been a little vague on whether Staffs got feats, racial powers or bloodline bonuses applied to their magic, but have ruled in all of the 1 game I've ever run where my PC's acquired a staff that those things applied. Not sure where you stand on that regard.
But this seems like a direct feed of a spell into the ring. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to eek out advantages here, though I would like them; I'm simply trying to get the feel of what makes sense.
I think that whatever power is based in the spell when it is put in to the ring defines the spell when it is cast out of the ring, you cannot modify the spell with any abilities you have when casting the spell out of the ring.
And in case you missed it, I am redefining the ring to be a "Minor Ring of Spell Storing" as it appears in the Core Rulebook (it will hold up to 3 levels of spells)
M Dwarf Cleric 5, AC 18, T 10, FF 18, HP 10/41, I 0, P 4, F 5, R 2, W 8; +2 vs. fear, +2 vs. poison, spells, and SLA
Miagnik the ring needed to go to a spell caster and Windel already has a potent new toy. If he had the ring, and his axe, it would have been an unbalanced power shift in the game dynamics. That's why he had no issue letting someone else take the item.
Well... generally speaking, it's not that an irrational hatred. Goblins just happen to have an innate empathy with Giant Poisonous Spiders in this game, so Miagnik would of course sympathize with them. It's really him and Melodak who're the oddballs.
Ah, I see my mistake now, I was half asleep when I made my IC post and could have sworn the Northern exit was one huge door. Miagnik is making his way to J/K 33.
M Dwarf Rogue 5, Init 5(7), P10(12traps), HP 35/35, AC 15(16), 13 T, 10 FF, Save F: 3(5 pos/sp), R: 7, W: 3
Note: My work will have me busy through the end of the month during business hours, so my posting will be a bit lighter. This game doesn't run too fast, so you all may not even notice.
M Dwarf Rogue 5, Init 5(7), P10(12traps), HP 35/35, AC 15(16), 13 T, 10 FF, Save F: 3(5 pos/sp), R: 7, W: 3
I've a hectic work week and precious little time to post. I'll get something up tomorrow night and over the weekend. Unfortunately, next week will also be hectic.
You can always step back into the hall and have a private conversation among yourselves about what to say to the ghost, or what questions you might ask.
I've got to run over to Boise, about 5 hours from where I live, to deliver a rebuilt computer to my son in college there this weekend, and I won't be back till Sunday. Great posts, everyone, sorry for the delay.
In my last post, the Goblin Ghost mentions the Dwarven necromancer, a woman, and I mistakenly typed the name "Anrollo" (who is Anrollo Guisse, Sir Guisse) instead of her actual name (because in my notes she occurs under the section on Sir Guisse, and the two of them are in cahoots).
The Dwarven Female Necromancer who is mentioned by name by the Goblin King Ghost is
I've updated the map. It doesn't show the grid or the reference numbers, but at least it gives you an idea of where you've been so far.
I know I dumped a lot of information in the last few post, sorry oif that bogged things down a bit.
If you have any questions, either in character, or out of character (trying to make sense of all that stuff) go ahead and ask, and then we'll wrap this encounter up, and get back on the move.
No no, sorry. This weekend was a bit of a stumbling block for me as well. Also, yes the amount of information was a bit much to soak in. I've been trying to come up with a good post but this one has stumped me for a bit.
I'm thinking everyone is busy with real life, so I just want to let you all know that I am ready to move on when you are, just let me know what you want to do as a group
I've been busy lately, and frustrated, because I want to keep up on all my games, but things are not working out the way I want them to.
I must attend a class, and will be away from computers on Monday and Tuesday, so unless I can update tonight, you won’t see me again until Wednesday, sorry for the inconvenience.
