On the Ring World

Game Master Capt Wombat

scarlet can you use wands of CLW ?

does anyone want the adamantine weaponry?
if they don't I'm selling them to get a crystal focus item

Now hold on Hall. We could ask use good gear I myself could use better armor, Scarlet could use a wand, Jack could also benefit from some items as well I imagine. For you to want to spend 5k on a single item is a bit selfish don't you think?

except for the magical arcane scrolls that i am the only one to use i didn't get nothing else.

but then again i'd rather get stuff that are useful for everyone's survival (and i am working on that currently)

that's why I was asking

though I have always found wands a waste of money, unless no one can cast the spell.

HEY DM
I'm going to ask our manager if he knows or has someone in his employ who we could find to give us a discount, could I roll know Local to see if I know a place myself?

could I spend Honor points or a hero point or something?

I don't really know much about the whole honor thing

I know my honor is higher than 4 (my level) but I don't know how much more as I don't know the relative CR of the people we have fighting and several things are up to the DM on when to award them

You say that now, but just wait till we are all nearly gonners and our healer has no extracts left lol.

Not to mention is only 15 gp per level per level, making it the cheapest charge item available.

Hall, hold on a moment. I will finish the loot corrections today. The profit of what is sold will be divided by all.

Then, if you have the cash for it, you can buy the crystal focus item you want

except for the magical arcane scrolls that i am the only one to use i didn't get nothing else.

but then again i'd rather get stuff that are useful for everyone's survival (and i am working on that currently)

actually... Annie can use arcane scrolls..

except for the magical arcane scrolls that i am the only one to use i didn't get nothing else.

but then again i'd rather get stuff that are useful for everyone's survival (and i am working on that currently)

do you want a ring of sustenance? I don't really care one way or another about it it was just left unclaimed

I asked about it multiple times.

The ring of sustenance is quite nice actually, after I think four more days or so you can go without food or drink, and only need two hours of rest a night verses 8. Makes you a really good lookout, especially with that perception of yours ;) I would keep it if I were you.

you did? somehow I missed that
I only took it because no one else was using it
whoever wants it can have it, I'll remove it from my sheet

I want it then.

Hey Hall, what did the crystal do again?

Edit
As I said Jet lagged to hell but ill try and get this done fast

As per game setup
"honor-points system, you start with Zero Honor"
You have no Honor but we shall see * you gain 1 a level

How ever you all now have 2 honor Points each
But for Gigar who as said below spent one of his on a safe house for the party

You can spend 1 honor point to get an Item [Value = to 1000gp per PC level] Or a contact that will give the party a 3d5 ⇒ (5, 5, 4) = 14% Discount on any thing they buy
of one type, say Magic wands | scrolls | Potions | Armor/weapons | Rings Items etc as per the book

Fixed

according to the link, you gain honor every time you level up

and hero points (unless what you mean by hero point is different) do the same (to a maximum of 2, or 3 if yo take a feat)

Same concept, different venture. So far the party has earned 2 Honor, I have used one of those to give us a safe house.

wait, we use a group honor system?
these things need to be explained
especially because there is a link in the campaign info tab and unless I missed something it's different

We each have received 2 Honor, not just the group, my bad. What Item were you looking for Hall? The Crystal Hilt?

yup

I edited the above post
Honor points not hero points
You all have 2 put for Gigar

norma starting honor is
PC Base Honor Points: You start with a number of honor points equal to your Charisma score plus your character level. For example, a 1st-level PC with a Charisma score of 13 starts with an honor score of 1 4. Whenever your experience level or Charisma permanently changes, adjust your honor score accordingly. You can also gain or lose honor points during play.

from the link given these things are things we definitely have done that should increase honor

Complete a CR-appropriate adventure +1

but he says we start at 0 (which means -2 to will saves, and cha checks among other things)

and possibly
Party overcomes a challenging encounter (CR 3 or more higher than APL) +1

Complete a noble task for an honorable NPC (50+ honor points) and tell no one +2

if we use chivalric we would also have
Offer sanctuary and defend that offer +3

that being said, what the DM says is what the rules are
I just want to know what rules the DM is playing by

And so you shall Hall,

All true but it's ring world honor, your PC dos not go around with a pathfinder rule book :)
I'm treating honor as a more complicated form of hero points. I myself think its a better system, I think what I should make clear is honor is relative to the game, not a meta game over system,

ask who's giving me honor.
With Gigar it was the painter and the art community in the city, he's a famous muse to a famous painter. That where he spent his honor because that's where he got it.

Jack you can see must have noble honor, the Lady not only trusts him but she respects him. And this is where lower class misunderstandings come in. Hall and Scarlet both thought "arr it's be course physical attraction, but noble love is about embodying an idea. Jack is a noble fighter with a personal code of honor, that is greatly respected by nobles.
It's often a mistake Americans and similar make. Because they come from a pour mercantile culture. To then honor for its own sake makes no true sense. It "must" have a value, because they view the world by means of personal profit (wins) and losses (losing).
True selfless honor like jack PC hold, the noble knight, is a personal stance against the intrinsic carpeting influence of such a mercantile ethos. In the mercantile honor system, you have honor if you honor a business deal, transaction etc, regardless of how morally corrupt or down right illegal it is. Ask any wallstreet banker or drug dealer who they honor.
Even gangster respect men who keep their word. For the some honoring gods in the face of the faithful gets them honor, no mater how evil the act etc

You probably did not understand most of that, that's ok Hall, the point is there is more than one kind of honor on the ring and when you use honor ill link it into where its from.

As of now your only getting honor on leveling, + some have PMs about other honor.

honor-points system, you started with Ziro Honor, but gain 1 per leveling
I waved zero honor pain to get the game going.

As of now you can use honor to

1 Game Honor Point Right now I will let you use them in 1 of 6 ways

when appropriate to game play your pc can

1: Gain a contact in the city who will sell you 1 class/type of thing at 3d5% off
2: Gain a safe place to go, a mates safe house etc.
3: Gain one Item worth no more than Level x1000gp
4: Roll again one D20 Roll you just made, take best result.
5: Auto Stabilize and Heal 3d6 Hit Points of Normal DMG
6: Gain one Small Clue/Hunt from the GM V PM

Actually thinking about it what I should call it is "ring world Luck" points
In a reality where luck is a real thing
You players are lucky, it's in all your DNA
And some are Luckyer than others but with in particular limits or it would not be fair

Being prospected by a group on the ringword
Finding an item
Having luck when in danger
Not being as badly hurt as you thought

Are all manifestations of that ring world luck

Most inhabitants of the ring are normal they have

Zero ring world luck, it dos not mean they are unlucky just they are normal. they have luck but its 50/50 Normal luck.

But some have a DNA luck, or old one devices that change luck, or in your and Scarlet's case Artificially made luck, [*kind of tech witch craft and not well liked on the ring by the way] then God like mind-mages who can chance luck, ['bend reality'] and god like mages who could ['wish'] but they say non like that are left on the ring, such knowledge was lost with the old-ones.

cool,

So saying that I am going to change the name

They are Ring world Luck Points RWL Points

You can use them in 6 core ways

OR

On an in-game case by case way as
ether the Hero-Point or Honor point ways.

On GM approval.

But if I see a way it can be done by the 6 core ways to spend I will make you do it with them for simplicity.

How do you get RWL Points

1 Point per leveling
N Points, per main plot event, as the GM gives out.
1 Point for taking an insanely risky action and pulling it off.
1 at the end of each leveling that will be awarded by the party to one player on a 1 vote per player bases, all must vote and can't vote for self. Done V PM.
1 Point for adding in background to the in game play, a nice write up or description, of a place, NPC, item, event. Your allowed to add to the game world here, and I will reward good ideas that fit,
Post your write ups here and Ill ok it for entry into game info.

None of this is copy rit to me, you can all take any or all of this for your own games. Open fan based stuff like.

:)

Hall, I just looked into that Hilt, all it does is increase your enchantment bonus. And its 11,600 GP! You could get the same effect by purchasing a headband of Wisdom +2 for 4,000 GP, and get better saves/skills to boot. Why would you want to waste so much money at this point in the game?

Is the 1 point per level retro, or starting from now on?

never mind then
I looked in the wrong place
I'm used to being the party crafter, so I looked first at the price to make
Derp
yeah the headband would be fine

I would wait to purchase anything till after we find out what everyone has, We could ALL use a stat boost, and if we are going to pull resources and only get one or two, I would give them to the people who need them, rather than want them. You already have a 22 Wisdom, more than anybody else, and it's your primary stat for just about everything. I would vote more for Anne/Tibber's, who hasn't been with us to gain some of the items, or Scarlet for better healing.

*Smiles and wait patiently for folks to sort themselves out.* (^_^)

Um...those shoulder things? A proper name to plug into a search box?

Much cheers and best wishes to all.

that is a good point but shouldn't Anne/Tibbers have come in with 6k of stuff?

Don't know how her character is built, I haven't fully looked at it. Oh, I just remembered. Muleback Cords Scarlet. Shoulder slot, +8 to Str FOR CARRY CAPACITY ONLY, 1,000 GP. Pg 267 of UE.

Ah...still a couple of hundred over Scarlet's budget. Any one willing to offer her a loan of a couple of hundred? (^_~)

if I can get a headband of +2 wisdom and have any left over, sure
otherwise I'll think about it,

Brain just kicked in after waking up fully.

Yes, Scarlet will buy the 1K magic hauling item and spend the remaining 8oo on stuff like armor etc.

*D'Oh!*

then you're good? good :)
if I can't get the +2 wisdom item now, I will take my share and save it till I can, unless someone can convince me that the need is greater for someone else to get something specific

Wait...is it good that I'm good? 'Cause I'm good with that.

that is a good point but shouldn't Anne/Tibbers have come in with 6k of stuff?

I do believe Annie is at or near that amount.

Is the 1 point per level retro, or starting from now on?

Retro to 3ed level so you get 1 2ed to 3ed level and now a second from 3ed to 4th level

It's me that's wrong

You should all but Gigar have 3 luck points, he has 2
But he did spend on the party for a cool think for the party do I'm giving him a luck point.
you all have 3 one per leveling.

Simpler that way.

That's lucky. XD

Well since I didn't get a no on Annie's purchase list I am guessing its all good.

not to worry my posts have a tendency to be missed every so often...

Scarlet you didn't answer my question: can you use wands of CLW ?

Ah...um... I don't know?

alright then i'll get a wand of infernal healing then...

Okay, with some looking into the character, Scarlet's class does get UMD. Will put points into the sskill after work

banking Annie's money for now, she only updated her wand of summon Ediolon from 5 charges to 10 charges.

Oh yeah and supplies:
upgrade to wand: 150gp
Backpack masterwork: 50 gp
Bedroll: 0.1gp
Canteen: 2 gp
Trail rations (4 days): 2 gp
Banshee Ballerina Fireworks x2: 150 gp
Tangleburn bags x2: 300gp

sell regular backpack for +1gp

** spoiler omitted **

Sorry did not realize you needed an ok as all that's more then fine Anne

"It's a hard enuff life for us..."

Just can't get that song out my head hehe.

I wanted to get everyone's input on this, including Annie: will she be getting a share of the loot obtained prior to her joining the game? I just want to know if it is to be divided by 6 or 5 ;)